Html or Swf???

lemon123 · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2007 9:04 pm

Personally, I like to first watch the default version and then go back to the flash file whenever I feel like watching the same toon again. Ultimately, however, I prefer the Flash file: double the size = double the Strong Bad = double the fun!

Inverse Tiger · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2007 9:51 pm

I use the greasemonkey plugin that up-sizes the flash when you look at the HTML, and adds a pause button, seek bar, subtitles if you want, etc. HTML-plus I guess.

Shwoo · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2007 12:51 am

I like watching them the way they were intended to be watched. When watching a new toon, I don't even use the seek bar because it's distracting.

Didymus · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2007 1:57 am

I prefer the SWF. My lappy has a 1440 x 900 screen, so it's very nice to be able to watch it in full screen, rather than the tiny 550 x 400 HTML.

Tig, where can I get that plugin? I'd like to be able to have FF/RW control over flash files.

Shwoo · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2007 2:49 am

I think he's talking about this one.

Inverse Tiger · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2007 2:51 am

Yep, that's it. Thanks for digging that up there. I'd forgot where I got it from.

ramrod · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2007 2:59 am

Inverse Tiger wrote:

Yep, that's it. Thanks for digging that up there. I'd forgot where I got it from.

It's an awesome plug in. It really helps if you're trying to transcribe a toon.

Inverse Tiger · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2007 3:05 am

Didymus wrote:

Tig, where can I get that plugin? I'd like to be able to have FF/RW control over flash files.

Just noticed something in what you said... Unfortunately, this one only works for Homestar, not all flash files.

ramrod · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2007 3:06 am

Inverse Tiger wrote:

Didymus wrote:

Tig, where can I get that plugin? I'd like to be able to have FF/RW control over flash files.

Just noticed something in what you said... Unfortunately, this one only works for Homestar, not all flash files.

I'm sure though if you look enough, there's probably a plug in for that.

InterruptorJones · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2007 5:31 am

Inverse Tiger wrote:

I use the greasemonkey plugin that up-sizes the flash when you look at the HTML, and adds a pause button, seek bar, subtitles if you want, etc. HTML-plus I guess.

Me too. Phlip FTW.

DorianGray · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2007 5:43 pm

I always go for the SWF. It's bigger.

MikeMcG · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2007 8:58 pm

I watch everything on the website, I don't like seeing the stuff you shouldn't see when I watch something for the first time.

teh_toaster · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2007 10:52 pm

Once again, talking about code makes me all giddy, and gets me to log in.

I use the H*R Greasemonkey plugin constantly, but for those few times a day that I'm not watching toons on HR this one bit of javascript add a seekbar and pause button and works for just about all .swf toons. Works best if you put it into your favorites list:

Code:

javascript:(function(){setTimeout(initFlashControls,100);function initFlashControls(){var count=0;function tt(elem){if(typeof elem.TotalFrames!=%22undefined%22){addFlashControls(elem);++count;}}var i,x;for(i=0;x=document.getElementsByTagName(%22object%22)[i];++i)tt(x);for(i=0;x=document.getElementsByTagName(%22embed%22)[i];++i)tt(x);if(!count)alert(%22No scriptable flash on this page.%22);}function addFlashControls(flash){var controlsDiv=document.createElement(%22div%22);var where=flash;while(where.parentNode.tagName.toLowerCase()==%22object%22)where=where.parentNode;where.parentNode.insertBefore(controlsDiv,where.nextSibling);var table=document.createElement(%22table%22);controlsDiv.appendChild(table);var row=table.insertRow(-1);var pauseButton=document.createElement(%22button%22);pauseButton.appendChild(document.createTextNode(%22Pause%22));var buttonCell=row.insertCell(-1);buttonCell.appendChild(pauseButton);var slider=row.insertCell(-1);slider.width=%22100%%22;var visibleSlider=document.createElement(%22div%22);visibleSlider.style.position=%22relative%22;visibleSlider.style.height=%2210px%22;visibleSlider.style.width=%22100%%22;visibleSlider.style.MozBorderRadius=%224px%22;visibleSlider.style.background=%22#aaa%22;slider.appendChild(visibleSlider);var thumb=document.createElement(%22div%22);thumb.style.position=%22absolute%22;thumb.style.height=%2220px%22;thumb.style.width=%2210px%22;thumb.style.top=%22-5px%22;thumb.style.MozBorderRadius=%224px%22;thumb.style.background=%22#666%22;visibleSlider.appendChild(thumb);var sliderWidth;var paused=false;var dragging=false;table.width=Math.max(parseInt(flash.width)||0,400);addEvent(pauseButton,%22click%22,pauseUnpause);addEvent(slider,%22mousedown%22,drag);addEvent(slider,%22drag%22,function(){return false;});window.setInterval(update,30);function pauseUnpause(){paused=!paused;pauseButton.style.borderStyle=paused?%22inset%22:%22%22;if(paused)flash.StopPlay();else flash.Play();}function update(){sliderWidth=parseInt(getWidth(slider)-getWidth(thumb));if(!paused&&!dragging)thumb.style.left=parseInt(flash.CurrentFrame()/totalFrames()*sliderWidth)+%22px%22;}function dragMousemove(e){var pageX=e.clientX+document.body.scrollLeft;var pos=bounds(0,pageX-getX(slider)-5,sliderWidth);var frame=bounds(1,Math.ceil(totalFrames()*pos/sliderWidth),totalFrames()-2);thumb.style.left=pos+%22px%22;flash.GotoFrame(frame);}function release(e){removeEvent(document,%22mousemove%22,dragMousemove);removeEvent(document,%22mouseup%22,release);if(!paused)flash.Play();dragging=false;}function drag(e){addEvent(document,%22mousemove%22,dragMousemove);addEvent(document,%22mouseup%22,release);dragging=true;dragMousemove(e);}function bounds(min,val,max){return Math.min(Math.max(min,val),max);}function totalFrames(){if(typeof flash.TotalFrames==%22number%22)return flash.TotalFrames;else if(typeof flash.TotalFrames==%22function%22)return flash.TotalFrames();else return 1;}function getWidth(elem){if(document.defaultView&&document.defaultView.getComputedStyle)return parseFloat(document.defaultView.getComputedStyle(elem,null).getPropertyValue(%22width%22));else return parseFloat(elem.offsetWidth);}function getX(elem){if(!elem)return 0;return(elem.offsetLeft)+getX(elem.offsetParent);}function addEvent(elem,eventName,fun){if(elem.addEventListener)elem.addEventListener(eventName,fun,false);else elem.attachEvent(%22on%22+eventName,fun);}function removeEvent(elem,eventName,fun){if(elem.addEventListener)elem.removeEventListener(eventName,fun,false);else elem.detachEvent(%22on%22+eventName,fun);}}})()

I wonder if this post will make the screen width go all wide and wonky-like.

P.S...yes it did

StrongRad · **Posted:** Sun May 13, 2007 11:30 pm

I usually watch the toon once or twice on its page, as that is the way TBC intended (and I like to see art the way the artists intended). Then, I'll watch the SWF a couple of times to see if there are any neat little things outside of the frame created by the webpage.
So, my answer is "both!"

Phlip's script is your friend.

Spyrox6 · **Posted:** Mon May 14, 2007 2:02 am

I use Greasemonkey as well when watching something on Homestarrunner. It helps when you don't know what people are saying, so you could rewind or look at the subtitles.

Problem is that whenever I turn it on, it slows down my scroll buttons reaction. Even when I turn it off.

It really isn't hard to put a pause and play button in a flash toon. It's simple actionscript, so most good non HR flash toons I watch on the internet have one. They really help.

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TheJohn · **Posted:** Mon May 14, 2007 8:09 pm

Shwoo wrote:

I think he's talking about this one.

Aww, dang. I was gonna download that, but then saw it was only for Firefox. Doesn't do me and my IE7 a lot of good. :((

The Snork · **Posted:** Mon May 14, 2007 8:14 pm

TheJohn wrote:

Shwoo wrote:

I think he's talking about this one.

Aww, dang. I was gonna download that, but then saw it was only for Firefox. Doesn't do me and my IE7 a lot of good. :((

Why haven't you downloaded Firefox?

Didymus · **Posted:** Mon May 14, 2007 9:22 pm

Toaster: Thanks 1,000,000 for that script. It's fantastic.

ramrod · **Posted:** Mon May 14, 2007 9:52 pm

The Snork wrote:

TheJohn wrote:

Shwoo wrote:

I think he's talking about this one.

Aww, dang. I was gonna download that, but then saw it was only for Firefox. Doesn't do me and my IE7 a lot of good. :((

Why haven't you downloaded Firefox?

Maybe because he didn't like FireFox?

The Cheatentina · **Posted:** Tue May 15, 2007 4:33 pm

I use the default, but I have a Firefox plugin that lets me see the toons in swf size (as well as the Homestar Runner toolbar, but that has nothing to do with the subject at hand). It's on the official Mozilla website; you can find it if you search for "Homestar Runner."

The_Other_White_Meat · **Posted:** Wed May 30, 2007 2:25 pm

Default, because .swf files don't work on Firefox.

Shwoo · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2007 2:03 am

Yes they do. They've always worked for me.

The_Other_White_Meat · **Posted:** Thu May 31, 2007 1:50 pm

Hmm. Well on MY computer, they only work on IE. So maybe I have an outdated version of Firefox or something...

Einoo T. Spork · **Posted:** Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:18 pm

Inverse Tiger wrote:

I use the greasemonkey plugin that up-sizes the flash when you look at the HTML, and adds a pause button, seek bar, subtitles if you want, etc. HTML-plus I guess.

What he said.

lol

TheJohn · **Posted:** Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:47 am

ramrod wrote:

The Snork wrote:

TheJohn wrote:

Shwoo wrote:

I think he's talking about this one.

Aww, dang. I was gonna download that, but then saw it was only for Firefox. Doesn't do me and my IE7 a lot of good. :((

Why haven't you downloaded Firefox?

Maybe because he didn't like FireFox?

Yeah, that's pretty much it. The main thing I just couldn't get over was the fact that some HTML in websites didn't display properly. However, that WAS a couple years ago. I have yet to give the new Firefox 2 a spin around the block. However, I've heard that it's considerably slower than older versions, which doesn't excite me a whole lot.

(I looked for the old Firefox thread to discuss this in, but it's nowhere to be found. What happened to it?)

sci-fi greg · **Joined:** Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:02 pm **Posts:** 1347

Yeah, that script is amazing. Also I usually watch HTML once or twice and then see if I can notice anything in the SWF. It's weird. On a mac the flash file is different. I have a windows, but I was on my friends computer. You had to download the cartoon and it had a seek bar and it was completely fullscreen.

TheTechSupportGeek · **Joined:** Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:23 am **Posts:** 13

I prefer HTML to SWF because when shown in its raw SWF form, sometimes when you resize the window and you see stuff going on outside the stage view (Flash users know what I'm talking about), it's just weird.

The only downside to HTML is that if you have a large screen display and the SWF is at a set size that looks really small on your screen, you can't make it bigger. For example, HomeStar Runner cartoons have a set size of 550x400, and someone's display has a screen size of 2048x1536 (if possible) which makes the cartoon look really small on that person's display and you can't resize it.

DonutHead41 · **Joined:** Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:34 pm **Posts:** 286

Despite the fact that I have Flash Player installed, I cannot view plain SWF files in Internet Explorer.

So, I guess it's HTML for me.

this-guy · **Posted:** Sun Sep 02, 2007 1:42 pm

Einoo T. Spork wrote:

Inverse Tiger wrote:

I use the greasemonkey plugin that up-sizes the flash when you look at the HTML, and adds a pause button, seek bar, subtitles if you want, etc. HTML-plus I guess.

What he said.
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3panda94 · **Joined:** Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:46 pm **Posts:** 220

I like watching the toons on Html.

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