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Why do sbemails have to END? Can't they just ease up on them?

Here's some things I'd rather see than sbemail next year:

1.) More HOMESTAR focused toons. They could have a running gag where Homestar is making an effort to "get his site back" by interrupting toons "starring" Strong Bad and making himself the center of attention until he gets his own toons for awhile.

2.) A toon starring Homsar. So many weird possibilities.

3.) Maybe a new series for Homestar or one of the other characters similar to how Strong Bad has his sbemail series (but of course, not the same deal).

4.) Not new characters, but maybe something new like the way we got Cheat Commandos eventually, TGS, etc.

5.) A FULL SHORT OR TOON featuring 20x6. Why not? There's not even ONE. I'd like to see a SERIES of 20x6 episodes that make fun of anime and how it always continues on to the next episode, like a soap opera. HECK, they could make it like a cartoon and base it on the Stinkoman video game... making fun of the fact that there's no Level 10 so they have to take "liberties" with the adaption.

6.) A FULL COLOR old timey toon.

7.) A toon in a new art style, perhaps.

8.) Maybe an interactive feature where the fans get to send in ideas and various ones are picked and randomly thrown together to create a "fan-made toon" or something. The characters could break the 4th-wall and "be aware" of the fact that it's random ideas that are thrown together that only sort of would make sense.

9.) A peasant's quest toon. I'm sorry, I love PQ and the PQ Movie Trailer... they should make a "cartoon series" based on that video game. I think it's always funny.

10.) A Strong Bad Man CARTOON?

etc. etc. etc.

There's SO MANY things they could do that would be FRESH if they just got away from Strong Bad. 2009 should be the year of less Strong Bad and more Homestar and everyone else. They could always come back to SB after a break. I'm not saying he wouldn't or shouldn't be there, just less of him than the usual.

Author:	TheMac04 [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 4:22 pm ]
Post subject:	Strong Bad is way too overused
Okay, so I know that this has been done time and time again, but I figured I'd give my own opinion on the subject. I know this will be met with a lot of disagreement, but here goes. I think Homestar is way funnier than Strong Bad. Seriously, go watch some of the big toons prominently featuring Homestar. My favorite toon on the site is "Bug In Mouth Disease" because it has so much Homestar in it, and Strong Bad is still there, doing what he should be doing: Being ticked off by Homestar. Seriously, I've laughed harder at things like "Cool Things" and "No Hands On Deck", both of which have almost no Strong Bad at all, than any of the sbemails. No joke. And now, here is where I expect the flames to come cascading down on top of my head. I'm new here, so please, go easy with your words in bold and your exclamation marks. Ok, prepare to be angered: I want the emails to end at #200. I'm sorry, but I really do. It's Homestar's website, and Strong Bad has had several YEARS to shine. I really think Homestar should get his site back. Not to mention, the other characters need to come out of the shadows. Do we ever get to see, say, a Coach Z and Pom Pom relationship? Or maybe Strong Sad and The Poopsmith? Think of the possibilities when it's not just a Strong Bad to someone else relationship. Remember "Fall Float Parade"? Remember how it prominently featured to characters interacting that we don't normally see together: Marzipan and Coach Z? Remember how freaking hilarious it was? And I'm not saying I don't like Strong Bad. He's a funny guy, but come on. Am I the only one who's just plain tired of him? Anyway, just food for thought. I probably won't be as long-winded next time I post. I know this has all been said before, but I just wanted to put in my $1.52. You may now begin flaming the crap out of me.

Author:	jimstark [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:00 pm ]
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I've always thought Homestar was funnier than Strong Bad. But I'm not sure how funny he would be if he became the central focus again. The early cartoons in which he was clearly the protagonist aren't very funny to me. But I will agree, No Hands on Deck is one of my favorite cartoons. I think it has to do with the way Homestar and Strong Bad play off each other that makes each of them funny. Instead of seeing less of Strong Bad, I think we just need to see more of Homestar.

Author:	pink pineapple [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 5:11 pm ]
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Don't see any reason to flame you. There seem to be quite some people who think that Strong Bad (and especially sbemail) has become overused. Personnally I don't think so, as I like both the Homestar toons and the emails equally. I do hope they don't stop at email 200 though, because the sbemails are such a great opportunity for fans to add to and be a part of the series. I understand the people who want Homestar back, and I agree that he should get back a bigger part, but there should still be room for the sbemails now and then. Maybe they could rotate weekly or 60%-40% or something. Anyway, it's always impossible to satisfy everyone, but I think it's fairer to show something that some fans find annoying to please the rest than to cancel something some fans enjoy to not annoy the others.

Author:	Dennis [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:43 pm ]
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Well, I personally think Homestar is funnier than Strong Bad. Bubs and Homsar are funnier than him, but to have the emails stop a email 200? You're out of your mind. Strong Bad emails are a central part of SBCG4AP, and the website has generated more visitors due to it. I think the toons are funnier, but other people like the emails better. Sorry, but I have to disagree with you here. But Homestar really needs to appear in more cartoons. Bug in Mouth Disease, No Hands on Deck, and Cool things are all funnier than 10 emails. We don't want Homestarrunner.net (it's dot com) to become Strongbad.com, do we?

Author:	myrules92 [ Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:47 pm ]
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Getting rid of Strong Bad Email would ruin the site, no questions asked.

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Author:	Mini-Trogdor SP [ Tue Aug 26, 2008 2:21 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Ugh...another dumb topic about how Strong Bad is overused
This thread is at least a year overdue.

Author:	Xtermenator [ Tue Aug 26, 2008 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Ugh...another dumb topic about how Strong Bad is overused
You're obviosuly not a great homestarrunner fan, Myrules. I like the whole site. And Sbemails I think are the most visited part of the site because there's so many of them. & are by far the funniest charactars on the site. A full length Sweet Cuppin' Cakes would be funnier than any email, and even the is usually funnier than . Strong Bad is funny, but is way too overused. I also think that the emails should end at 200 or perhaps 250 or something. Sometime soon. None of the other charactars get much of a chance to shine except Strong Bad. Also, I think that SBCG4AP would be WAY better and WAY WAY more funny if you played as .

Author:	OneGyT [ Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:28 pm ]
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Xtermenator wrote: You're obviosuly not a great homestarrunner fan, Myrules. Why's that? Those of us who like the emails like the other parts too, so why not apply the logic you're using to those? "Let's get rid of the big toons/shorts/holiday/etc." Think that would sit right with "great" Homestar Runner fans? No. TBC's doing a fine job.

Author:	Xtermenator [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:02 am ]
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myrules92 wrote: Getting rid of Strong Bad Email would ruin the site, no questions asked. No, doesn't sound like he likes the rest of the site. And TBC is doing a fine job of course. Homestarrunner is FAR to big a part of my life. But I really do wish that the other charactas would get a good chance to shine. (I actually have to of wonder how Strong Bad got so popular. IMO, he was unlikeable until the late Tandy era.) AN EDIT OF SUCH: Perhaps bringing an end to sbemails is a bit harsh, but I would like them to tone it down a bunch and start something else up. , , , , (something better than that crappy KOT cartoon though), , , and haven't really had a chance to shine. They don't have anything of their own. They should seriously start making full length THE SHOW toons or something. One of my favorate emails actually was "Anything". Homestar was WAY funnier than Strong Bad usually is in that email. And sweet cuppin' cakes makes very few appearances, despite being quite popular among most people. only has his Lament that SADLY very few people still visit probably because most people don't know about it, and has her answering machine which most people don't like because it isn't a cartoon. The charactars should all have their own corners of the site I think. That would be amazing. Only Pretty much the only ones who have really gotten full chances to shine are Strong Bad Emails (which is a bit unbeatable I guess seeing as you have a chance to interact with a character) and the cheat with powered by the cheat cartoons and cheat commandoes cartoons. Twould be nice if there were more of them though...

Author:	jimstark [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:26 pm ]
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Xtermenator wrote: ...haven't really had a chance to shine. Um, the site is called "homestarrunner.com." I think all the characters have had a chance to shine. Just SB is the guy who gets to shine the most.

Author:	Xtermenator [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:57 pm ]
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Yes. The site is called homestarrunner.com. And he's almost everyone's favorate charactar. Or at least second or so. Guess who gets the most screen time? ? Not even close. Like screen time is so ridiculous compared to all the other charactars.

Author:	ThePieManOfDeath [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:21 pm ]
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Xtermenator wrote: myrules92 wrote: Getting rid of Strong Bad Email would ruin the site, no questions asked. No, doesn't sound like he likes the rest of the site. You're right Xterminator. Super Mario Bros 3 is my favorite video game of all time, therefor I don't like any other video games. [/Sarcasm] Maybe you should learn that there are opinions other than your own. Btw, take a look at this poll on the forum where Strong Bad wins as favorite character. I guarantee you, Homestar is not the most popular character. Ending SBemails would be dumb, with so many fans of them.

Author:	Xtermenator [ Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:41 pm ]
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Homestar is very close to being everyone's favorate, and homsar isn't too far behind. And ANYWAYS it's not like that was every H&R fan taking that poll. More like fourty-fifty people. AND I SAID IN MY COMMENT UP THERE that if not first he was like second or so. Twas right. And your comment was a crappy comparison, pieman. He didn't say "SBEMAILS ARE MY FAV!". He said "Getting rid of Strong Bad Email would ruin the site, no questions asked." That would be about the same as you saying "If Super Mario 3 didn't exist, video games would suck. No questions asked." And I SAID IN MY COMMENT UP THERE that ending sbemails would be a bit harsh, but they should tone it down a bit and focus and something else; perhaps giving the other charactars their own corners of the site; of which would possibly change everyone's favorate character.

Author:	OneGyT [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 4:04 am ]
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Xtermenator wrote: And your comment was a crappy comparison, pieman. He didn't say "SBEMAILS ARE MY FAV!". He said "Getting rid of Strong Bad Email would ruin the site, no questions asked." That would be about the same as you saying "If Super Mario 3 didn't exist, video games would suck. No questions asked." More like, say, "Getting rid of Luigi would ruin the Mario franchise." That's arguably a lot closer of an analogy, and a lot truer than your analogy.

Author:	NABOCbeaks [ Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:59 pm ]
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I think it focusses around because he's always got some agenda, or plan, or something. That makes it easier to show interactions with the other characters through what he does. Focussing on what Homestar does every morning? Hmm... ~ Homestar's Emails ~ Homestar: "Well here I am, eating my cereol." <pour, crunch crunch> <camera pans behind homestar to show a blank table> Homestar: "Uh. Guys? I don't have a computor." <shows homestar from the front> <long pause> Homestar: "What do I do all day? Ummm." Homestar: "Downloads!" <cupboard door opens and plates fall out> Homestar: "Yeah, yeah, that's just about it. Bye now." [edit] Of course I'm not 100% serious in that. A semi-regular "The Show" series would be very good alongside sbemails, so long as one or other come out fairly often. (If you want to do something extreme, I suppose you could consider moving the e-mails entirely to SBCG4AP instead of stopping them after 200.)

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Author:	Xtermenator [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 5:13 am ]
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Thanks OneGyT. That's actually a much better comparision. Thanks.

Author:	Power Crunch [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:30 pm ]
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Why do sbemails have to END? Can't they just ease up on them? Here's some things I'd rather see than sbemail next year: 1.) More HOMESTAR focused toons. They could have a running gag where Homestar is making an effort to "get his site back" by interrupting toons "starring" Strong Bad and making himself the center of attention until he gets his own toons for awhile. 2.) A toon starring Homsar. So many weird possibilities. 3.) Maybe a new series for Homestar or one of the other characters similar to how Strong Bad has his sbemail series (but of course, not the same deal). 4.) Not new characters, but maybe something new like the way we got Cheat Commandos eventually, TGS, etc. 5.) A FULL SHORT OR TOON featuring 20x6. Why not? There's not even ONE. I'd like to see a SERIES of 20x6 episodes that make fun of anime and how it always continues on to the next episode, like a soap opera. HECK, they could make it like a cartoon and base it on the Stinkoman video game... making fun of the fact that there's no Level 10 so they have to take "liberties" with the adaption. 6.) A FULL COLOR old timey toon. 7.) A toon in a new art style, perhaps. 8.) Maybe an interactive feature where the fans get to send in ideas and various ones are picked and randomly thrown together to create a "fan-made toon" or something. The characters could break the 4th-wall and "be aware" of the fact that it's random ideas that are thrown together that only sort of would make sense. 9.) A peasant's quest toon. I'm sorry, I love PQ and the PQ Movie Trailer... they should make a "cartoon series" based on that video game. I think it's always funny. 10.) A Strong Bad Man CARTOON? etc. etc. etc. There's SO MANY things they could do that would be FRESH if they just got away from Strong Bad. 2009 should be the year of less Strong Bad and more Homestar and everyone else. They could always come back to SB after a break. I'm not saying he wouldn't or shouldn't be there, just less of him than the usual.

Author:	Xtermenator [ Thu Aug 28, 2008 8:53 pm ]
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1,2,3,4,8, and 10 I'm totally up for. And like I said, ending the emails is harsh but it twould be nice to be of focusing on something else for a change... like the stuff you just said. ESPECIALLY the homsar one. Homsar is boss, and according to that silly poll up there he seems to be popular. I mean he's MY favorate... Actually one of my favorate parts of Homestar Ruiner was phoning him. Though actually, a new character would actually rule quite a bunches.

Author:	Lunar Jesty [ Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:00 pm ]
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See, Strong Bad is just so versatile. He can say most anything, as long as he makes sure to make fun of people along the way. The other characters, even Homestar, have characters that are based around their own niches. Homestar needs the other characters as crutches to help him work most of the time. He's too stupid to really sustain on his own momentum most of the time: there will always be this area of intelligence that he can't go. It just wouldn't seem right for Homestar to make fun of pop culture the way Strong Bad does because Homestar's humor results from the fact that he isn't really intelligent enough to make fun of pop culture knowingly.

Author:	CaptainPastHisPrime [ Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:18 pm ]
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I guess SB is TBC's equivalent to Donald Duck, who, in the 1930s, eclipsed Mickey Mouse's popularity in more ways than one, to be blunt. But yeah, I do agree that they should definitely pace themselves with the emails after #200. I mean, have they even done any Big Toons lately? They have not done any of those kinds at all in 2003. And at this rate, I don't think they will ever do it this year, either. One thing they could do is a big toon version of "Where My Hat Is At". And to be quite honest, SB himself is upset with people overusing him (he said this in Trogday 08, when he yelled at the viewers for ruining him, along with Trogdor, pirates, zombies and ninjas). Power Crunch wrote: 9.) A peasant's quest toon. I'm sorry, I love PQ and the PQ Movie Trailer... they should make a "cartoon series" based on that video game. I think it's always funny. Forget the cartoon series concept, they should do the actual movie itself.

Author:	Aussieguy [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:31 pm ]
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TBC have gotten WAY more people into Homestar runner with the sbemails (like me for instance, and there are others I know) I'm not saying that I don't like the other content on the site, it's just that I wouldn't help the brother chaps if they removed it, or severely lessened it (I'm not saying it couldn't be lessened slightly). So there's my 2 cents...

Author:	Ingiald [ Wed Sep 03, 2008 11:00 pm ]
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The only thing I've seen in this thread that I vehemently disagree with is the "more Homsar" thing. For me, there's three things funny about Homsar: his complete disregard for the laws of physics, other characters' irrational hatred for him, and the fact that he disappears usually appears out of nowhere with no warning and disappears just as abruptly. Those first two would get old pretty quickly if it had to last the whole cartoon and the last one would be lost completely. Homsar just doesn't has what it takes to carry an entire cartoon by himself, in my opinion. Also I really don't think Homsar's lines are that funny except in the fact that they highlight how out of place he is. If it went the whole cartoon with the only humor being his lines I think it'd get stale pretty quickly.

Author:	Xtermenator [ Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:41 am ]
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Naw. For Kids is my all time favorate sbemail. That was Homsar's moment there It wouldn't just him saying quotes anyways. Also him doing RANDOM stuff. Probably similar to what he did in For Kids.

Author:	Hairu [ Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:34 pm ]
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I really like Homestar too, and he's funnier than Strong Bad, but here's his problem. Homestar is one of those characters that's only really funny in small helpings. He's the stupid character, so you can't make too many cartoons focused around him being stupid, such as cool things and Bug in Mouth. Those are awesome when they are few and far apart. Strong Bad is on of the more intelligent characters, so you can expect to see him a lot. People like characters with razor sharp wit, so Strong Bad is a good character that way. As for Homestar being the main character of the game, let's not forget this. Strong Bad is more marketable. You could compare it to the whole Mario vs Luigi thing. Only a select crowd wants to play as Homestar, much like how only a select crowd wants to play as Luigi. A majority of fans want to play as Strong Bad, so that's what they're going to get. We can only hope Homestar gets the Luigi treatment and you can play as him for select parts of the game.

Author:	SnowyFox [ Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:25 pm ]
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Strong Bad is a bit overused, but he's funny, and is more developed than any other character. On one hand that justifies his overuse, and on the other hand it's because of his overuse. As long as non-SB-centric toons don't start happening once in a blue moon, I'm OK with it.

Author:	20X6 GEM [ Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:35 pm ]
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Power Crunch wrote: Why do sbemails have to END? Can't they just ease up on them? Here's some things I'd rather see than sbemail next year: 1.) More HOMESTAR focused toons. They could have a running gag where Homestar is making an effort to "get his site back" by interrupting toons "starring" Strong Bad and making himself the center of attention until he gets his own toons for awhile. 2.) A toon starring Homsar. So many weird possibilities. 3.) Maybe a new series for Homestar or one of the other characters similar to how Strong Bad has his sbemail series (but of course, not the same deal). 4.) Not new characters, but maybe something new like the way we got Cheat Commandos eventually, TGS, etc. 5.) A FULL SHORT OR TOON featuring 20x6. Why not? There's not even ONE. I'd like to see a SERIES of 20x6 episodes that make fun of anime and how it always continues on to the next episode, like a soap opera. HECK, they could make it like a cartoon and base it on the Stinkoman video game... making fun of the fact that there's no Level 10 so they have to take "liberties" with the adaption. 6.) A FULL COLOR old timey toon. 7.) A toon in a new art style, perhaps. 8.) Maybe an interactive feature where the fans get to send in ideas and various ones are picked and randomly thrown together to create a "fan-made toon" or something. The characters could break the 4th-wall and "be aware" of the fact that it's random ideas that are thrown together that only sort of would make sense. 9.) A peasant's quest toon. I'm sorry, I love PQ and the PQ Movie Trailer... they should make a "cartoon series" based on that video game. I think it's always funny. 10.) A Strong Bad Man CARTOON? etc. etc. etc. There's SO MANY things they could do that would be FRESH if they just got away from Strong Bad. 2009 should be the year of less Strong Bad and more Homestar and everyone else. They could always come back to SB after a break. I'm not saying he wouldn't or shouldn't be there, just less of him than the usual. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, and 10 are all great ideas. I don't think the SBEmails should stop, but the other characters need more time in the sun! and the 20X6 times need more exposure! Don't get rid of the SBEmails, just expand everything else!

Author:	Xtermenator [ Sat Sep 20, 2008 5:43 pm ]
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Uhhh, Homestar would not remotely suck at checking emails? The email "Anything" was answered by homestarrunner, and it was hilarious. Way better than strong bad would've answered it. Also, Strong Bad has been quite unfunny in SBCG4AP.

Author:	Waferman [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:11 am ]
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Quote: Maybe you should learn that there are opinions other than your own. Btw, take a look at this poll on the forum where Strong Bad wins as favorite character. I guarantee you, Homestar is not the most popular character. Ending SBemails would be dumb, with so many fans of them. That's really only because there are more sbemails, in two ways: 1. People watch them more, because there are more. If you click random bat. on the home pages, chances are you'll get a sbemail. 2. Since there are more sbemails, Strong bad's character has become more developed and multi-faceted than others on the site. The point is, if Homestar got his own gimmick, He would become funnier over time just like Strong bad. And there really ought to be more Homestar than Strong bad, it's his website. So there.

Author:	Xtermenator [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:01 am ]
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I'm of agreeing. People would like the other characters way more if they had their own sections of the site.

Author:	CaptainPastHisPrime [ Fri Sep 26, 2008 3:18 am ]
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Xtermenator wrote: I'm of agreeing. People would like the other characters way more if they had their own sections of the site. One thing they could do is a LOT more of Marzipan's Answering Machine. At least Marzipan's name is in the official title.