It looks like H*R is over (for the most part)

Power Crunch · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2011 12:53 am

I know that Matt's twitter said it wasn't. But it's obvious they have no time for it anymore. There've been like two updates in the past 2 years. There looks to be no ween toon this year either. They haven't even turned on pumpkin stencils and that would take almost no effort (proving they're not that worried about the site). I don't think they are really even that worried about anything internet related as Matt hardly uses his twitter account.

I'm past the anger stage, I've reached acceptance. It's just such a bummer. I mean, it's been years now. It's obvious that it's pretty much over. At least in the sense of what it was. One update a year (so far 0 for 2011) is pretty much dead.

I want TBC to surprise me, but I know there will be nothing on October 31st to watch. I'm trying not to kid myself here.

TwiceStyle · **Posted:** Thu Oct 27, 2011 1:30 am

Power Crunch wrote:

I know that Matt's twitter said it wasn't. But it's obvious they have no time for it anymore. There've been like two updates in the past 2 years. There looks to be no ween toon this year either. They haven't even turned on pumpkin stencils and that would take almost no effort (proving they're not that worried about the site). I don't think they are really even that worried about anything internet related as Matt hardly uses his twitter account.

I'm past the anger stage, I've reached acceptance. It's just such a bummer. I mean, it's been years now. It's obvious that it's pretty much over. At least in the sense of what it was. One update a year (so far 0 for 2011) is pretty much dead.

I want TBC to surprise me, but I know there will be nothing on October 31st to watch. I'm trying not to kid myself here.

Now don't get your awesomesauce all up in a dander; there's a new round of spaghettay comin' soon.
(Ok, enough with that.)
I think that they could AT LEAST do 5-10 updates a year. In a drough-ty, faminous, feel-my-tongue-cracking, made up word-style drought like this, I'd say No Prabalo!
No, but sewiously folks,
http://www.homestarrunner.com/senormortgage.html

Groovy Dudette · **Joined:** Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:34 am **Posts:** 318

Blah. =\

I never really got angry or upset over the lack of updates. Just sort of "Huh. They haven't updated in a while." and "I wish they would update more. I miss them! :-|

"

I still haven't technically given up on them though. The way I see it now is that it's still a fun website to go to when you want a good laugh and if they update it's sort of like a bonus. I really do miss the weekly updates though. It was really nice having something to look forward to on Mondays.

JohnnyLurg · **Joined:** Tue May 25, 2010 10:13 pm **Posts:** 36

I just wish they would issue some sort of explanation. Like a lot of fans, I was really upset for the first year of the hiatus. But after the forums' negative response to that petition to bring back H*R that I made last year, I strongly believe that we should be patient with the Brothers Chaps and not be too angry at them for the hiatus. I'm sure H*R will be back someday, and still deliver great content. Some people I know claim that the quality of the site really went downhill by 2007 or so, but I really beg to differ. The later toons, Strong Bad Emails, games, Teen Girl Squads, and virtually everything else were still fantastic. I thought "A Decemberween Mackerel" was the best Decemberween toon ever, and really got my hopes up for the future of H*R. Just be patient.

Seriously. · **Joined:** Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:24 am **Posts:** 78

HR is like a cancelled television series that was popular for a few years and has now become byzantine pop culture. Not to mention this forum...

likalaruku · **Joined:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:05 am **Posts:** 474

I figure Homestar is "we'll get around to it someday" on their priority list. Maybe when the economy is good. Halloween was abysmal this year; no one dressed up or decorated, candy was crazy expensive, & not many kids came by. Even got a lazy teenager with a mustache dressed as himself.

What were we talking about again? Oh yeah, & we need more moderators. There's like 7 spam topics up right now.

Mr. Analog · **Posted:** Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:17 am

As a regular series it's done, which means eventually the website will go bye-bye.

I fully expect at some point the Chaps will set up a new portfolio flavored site somewhere with appropriate redirection-o-magic from the existing site URLs and continue to sell merch through it.

Of course I'd love for them to come back regular, but after 3+ years of sporadic updates that's pretty unlikely now.

docweasel · **Joined:** Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:18 pm **Posts:** 17

Strange that HR Runner never led to more lucrative revenue streams. Here's my theory: the game didn't do well and lost money vs. development costs (the Bros took a percentage of profits over a big advance, so they didn't cash in even though the game lost money, as many licensers do) and it brought home the fact the as talented and funny as a niche of the web thinks HSR is, it doesn't have the mass appeal needed to jump to the next level.

Therefore, it must have become apparent to 2 talented and intelligent guys that they needed to go in another direction to make a living for their growing families. The fact that they haven't even bothered to do minimalist website housekeeping (like putting up the old pumpkin stencils) shows they consider the website a cash cow they don't intend to invest any more time in at all. The only activity we see at ALL is sales on merchandise, which other Chaps family members handle, if I remember correctly. It almost appears they might be selling out the inventory to finally shut down completely, even though it would seem logical they could sell shirts and stuff forever. But, perhaps that's not true.

Perhaps the stuff isn't selling anymore either. The internet has changed a great deal since the HSR heyday of 2001-2005 or so, and the Bros could make a much bigger splash now with the social media available than they did in the day when word-of-mouth spread the news, but it would take an effort they just don't seem to feel motivated to put out. Those cartoons take a lot of work, for those of you who have never made one might not know.

Then here is the big kicker: flash is dead. It won't work on iPhones or iPads or any tablet. What a lot of people who disparage Steve Jobs' assertion that flash sucked and Apple was abandoning it, flash can never work on iPad (and by extension, many if not most of the HSR cartoons) because there is no 'mouse-over' effect in tablets. A great deal of flash effect relies upon it, so there is no way to even tranfer the flash to other media like video and have the easter eggs and pop-ups work, and those were a great deal of the charm of HSR, as anyone who's watched in on YouTube knows, it blows (mostly) as a purely video medium.

The great strength of HSR was the interactivity, home to most of the inside jokes. The death of flash kills this. And I think that is one of the main factors in the death of HSR- the death of Adobe flash.

But we can still enjoy all the old stuff, and there's plenty of that. Just not on a tablet or mobile phone.

Power Crunch · **Posted:** Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:57 pm

^ Everything above is well said. The Flash thing is completely true.

And unfortunately the site appears to be done for good. So I think I'm going to take my leave of this place, I hung around for a few more years hoping the site would come back. But finally, the good times are over.

I know they're busy, I know animating is time consuming... but they got very good at it and I'm sure they could put something of high quality out more quickly and easily than most of us could at this point. The fact that they've done nothing does indicate that their hearts aren't in it anymore in the first place.

It was fun while it lasted. I'll miss seeing Homestar, Strong Bad and the rest.

Cheatina · **Posted:** Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:21 pm

I REFUSE to believe they're done! Come on, they're just busy! Maybe at some point they'll come back! He said they would! I believe in my heart that they will, it's just gonna take a while! :eekdance:

MagicSwap · **Posted:** Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:15 pm

Well, TBC COULD use something else to animate with that could works on iPhones and what-not. But that would take a long time and not feel like the 'toons that are in flash. Heck, the whole website is flash including the Legal page. Anyway, I hate to think that the website is dead now. I still have hope for a December 'toon of some sort.

muppetfan1986 · **Joined:** Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:31 am **Posts:** 24

Hey everybody.

I don't think you should get so down. I'm sure there will be plenty of more h*r cartoons in the near future, and with all the new Brothers Chaps stuff coming to Yo Gabba Gabba you can have that stuff to look forward to as well. And in the meantime, why not fill the void by creating your very own internet show? That's what I did. I always looked forward to the h*r Halloween specials and decided to make my own this year using the same kind of h*r type humor. You can check it out at the link below if you are interested. If not, no worries. I'm not on here to spam anyone, just to tell you all to remain positive and patient.

Here's the link to the Halloween Special I created. Please feel free to respond with some constructive feedback. I'm always looking for ways to improve.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sLI0rCdjNs

likalaruku · **Joined:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:05 am **Posts:** 474

docweasel wrote:

Then here is the big kicker: flash is dead. It won't work on iPhones or iPads or any tablet. What a lot of people who disparage Steve Jobs' assertion that flash sucked and Apple was abandoning it, flash can never work on iPad (and by extension, many if not most of the HSR cartoons) because there is no 'mouse-over' effect in tablets. A great deal of flash effect relies upon it, so there is no way to even tranfer the flash to other media like video and have the easter eggs and pop-ups work, and those were a great deal of the charm of HSR, as anyone who's watched in on YouTube knows, it blows (mostly) as a purely video medium.

Flash isn't anywhere near dead. The casual gaming market depends of Flash & it's kicking the butt of traditional game making. Casual games are thriving like mad crazy. There's already Flash-based games on the iPad 2. I played them at a Bigfish convention.

Ripplin · **Posted:** Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:07 am

One thing I've noticed of late is how dirt cheap SBCG4AP is at eBay. Lots of copies for $0.99. Has that been going on for a while now? I hadn't looked into it until a few weeks ago.

Oh, and as Power Crunch said, "They haven't even turned on pumpkin stencils and that would take almost no effort..." Did they end up turning them on?

docweasel · **Joined:** Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:18 pm **Posts:** 17

likalaruku wrote:

docweasel wrote:

Then here is the big kicker: flash is dead. It won't work on iPhones or iPads or any tablet. What a lot of people who disparage Steve Jobs' assertion that flash sucked and Apple was abandoning it, flash can never work on iPad (and by extension, many if not most of the HSR cartoons) because there is no 'mouse-over' effect in tablets. A great deal of flash effect relies upon it, so there is no way to even tranfer the flash to other media like video and have the easter eggs and pop-ups work, and those were a great deal of the charm of HSR, as anyone who's watched in on YouTube knows, it blows (mostly) as a purely video medium.

Flash isn't anywhere near dead. The casual gaming market depends of Flash & it's kicking the butt of traditional game making. Casual games are thriving like mad crazy. There's already Flash-based games on the iPad 2. I played them at a Bigfish convention.

I'm a developer of jQuery apps. I spent about 12 years mastering Flash and ActionScripts, so I don't say this lightly: flash is dead. Sure, some hokey games hang on, but you can still find old javascript games out there from the 1990s- that doesn't mean JS is the coming trend.

I still do quite a bit of website design (mostly Drupal and Joomla modules) and I appeal to any other professional designers out there: do you still use ANY flash on your websites?

Once it was omnipresent: nav bars, intros, image galleries, etc. That's all over with. The ones you see now are jQuery 9 times out of 10, on any reputable company's website, whether you know it or not.

Flash was an easy way to animate: it's not the only way, of course. And I'd seriously doubt talented and forward thinking guys like the El Hermanos Chappitos would stick with a dying medium like Flash. If they are moving into TV, they are probably getting into CGI animation, which is a lot more labor-intensive and expensive, meaning they have to make money doing it.

We all love HSR, but seems like it's not ever going to go mainstream (which is weird, because I've seen any number of totally crap cartoons which make it 'on-air', but it's like the music biz, right place right time, who you blow not who you know, etc.)

random smilies: :hr:

We ran a forum on our site for years (1999-2010), coming here reminds me of the hey-day of forums, they all seem to be dead now. I remember when "Postcounts=penis size, noobz!"

JohnnyLurg · **Joined:** Tue May 25, 2010 10:13 pm **Posts:** 36

docweasel wrote:

who you blow not who you know

In the future, please refrain from making references to oral sex here. This isn't the Beavis and Butt-head Wiki Forum.

Ripplin · **Posted:** Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:37 pm

I'm starting to see a bunch of the figurine sets being sold on eBay. :-|

muppetfan1986 · **Joined:** Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:31 am **Posts:** 24

Well actually if Flash does die out completely, it isn't the end of the world. Adobe is coming out with a new product that is user friendly like Flash but utilizes HTML5. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if they somehow made it Flash compatible where you can input your flash composition and it would spit out the animation in HTML5 with some tweeking here and there. Therefore if they wanted to, I could see TBC converting the site to HTML5 and the toons turned into mp4's to stay current. But that would require a lot of work on their end. Anywho, in the near future I'm sure we can expect more cartoons in just plain old Flash 5. That is of course if the new Legend of Zelda game doesn't get in the way. ;-)

P.S. Thanks to all of you who checked out the Zeek Show Halloween Special. I'm almost done with the Thanksgiving episode.

muppetfan1986 · **Joined:** Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:31 am **Posts:** 24

Hey everybody. Again in my attempts to fill the void that is new H*R, I just completed a Thanksgiving webisode inspired by H*R humor. You can check it out here if you are interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiMJHc7f ... e=youtu.be

Cheatina · **Posted:** Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:36 pm

I am seriously getting tired of these topics. They're all about the same thing, and we already know that these people think it's over! Can we PLEASE just take it easy on these topics???

Sorry to anyone who might be offended, I just needed to say that.

Ripplin · **Posted:** Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:25 am

I'm not big on speculation threads myself, but at least it's better than more spam.

lu9 · **Joined:** Sat Jul 09, 2011 10:53 pm **Posts:** 135

TwiceStyle wrote:

Power Crunch wrote:

I know that Matt's twitter said it wasn't. But it's obvious they have no time for it anymore. There've been like two updates in the past 2 years. There looks to be no ween toon this year either. They haven't even turned on pumpkin stencils and that would take almost no effort (proving they're not that worried about the site). I don't think they are really even that worried about anything internet related as Matt hardly uses his twitter account.

I'm past the anger stage, I've reached acceptance. It's just such a bummer. I mean, it's been years now. It's obvious that it's pretty much over. At least in the sense of what it was. One update a year (so far 0 for 2011) is pretty much dead.

I want TBC to surprise me, but I know there will be nothing on October 31st to watch. I'm trying not to kid myself here.

Now don't get your awesomesauce all up in a dander; there's a new round of spaghettay comin' soon.
(Ok, enough with that.)
I think that they could AT LEAST do 5-10 updates a year. In a drough-ty, faminous, feel-my-tongue-cracking, made up word-style drought like this, I'd say No Prabalo!
No, but sewiously folks,
http://www.homestarrunner.com/senormortgage.html

Lol they used Microsoft Sam (or other computer voice) for the robot! heheh.
Let's just wait 'til 2012 comes, and then we'll see, they once stopped working
one time, they should stop again, and then return, that's animation life! lol

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