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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:32 am ] |
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I'd quite like if there was a place with less "for the kids" restrictions. I understand the reasons for having (some/most) of the restrictions on this forum but I'd like a place where I could talk about things like drug references or the characters in a more open light. Does such a forum exist? |
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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:34 am ] |
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You could always make one, it's really easy. I made one using "freebb", if you want to use that then just google "freebb". But, if you're looking for an existing one, I doubt anyone has an adult oriented forum about a cartoon. |
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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:49 am ] |
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I'm not talking about intentionally adult, just not intentionally non-adult. Since the main audience for H*R on the internet is apparently college students there must be some forums out there. |
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| Author: | Mr. Analog [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:00 am ] |
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Quote: I could talk about things like drug references or the characters in a more open light. Are you referring to the "A Warning" message of the First time here? section? Quote: Above all, never use obscene or otherwise defamatory language, and never deface the documents our community has worked hard to create. Remember—there are people younger than you here at the wiki, and they may not like obscene language, and therefore no swearing will be tolerated.
Would being able to use profanity really enhance what you have to discuss about Homestar and the gang? |
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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:01 am ] |
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I think her first post pretty much explains what she is looking for. Quote: I'd like a place where I could talk about things like drug references or the characters in a more open light.
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| Author: | Mr. Analog [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:04 am ] |
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I guess there are drug-related references speckled in the Homestapestry: -Cold ones -Caffeine -Whatever the Thnikkaman has that the kids can't have |
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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:08 am ] |
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Well, there are alot more evident one like: -Coach Z saying "Then you must smoke crack." -That dude smoking in Space Program. -Cold ones (again). |
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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:43 am ] |
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There's plenty of Drug references in H*R, and it's pretty obvious TBC are stoned most of the time, as with many other great artists, nothing wrong with unlocking a little extra potential. Even most kids programs have them. I only pulled that one thing out of the air as I was talking about it with DP, I don't personally do drugs myself. |
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| Author: | Mr. Analog [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:57 am ] |
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I'd prefer to think that they probably work very hard crafting each toon, blending the subtle absurdities of their own imaginations with various pop culture references and sometimes very subtle humour. But that's just me... |
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| Author: | Jenny [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:15 am ] |
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i don't see anyone complaining about us talking about drug references here yet. i think the thing the admins are afraid of is that people would start talking about themselves smoking pot or something (just as an example). that would lock a topic real fast. i get what you are saying rose... but if there are/were any forums out there specifically for H*R that are like that i'm sure they wouldn't last very long because that kind of atmosphere attracts some pretty unpleasant people. it seems just too hard to keep the discussion meaningful or fun when addressing that stuff if it is not a strict forum with confining rules. on a more personal note, i turn to homestar to get a break from the overuse of that stuff in other media. i don't get what the point would be to make what few references there are into a big deal when most people like the site because of its lighter humor. i mean, i like that cruder humor when it's in there, but i'm too worn out by it to want to talk about it in a forum. especially with fellow college students... just cuz they're in college doesn't make them mature. EDIT (post took a while): um, rose... have you ever worked with Flash before? it would be very hard to do any of that stuff while "under influence." And in the interviews I've read, I get the sense that mr. analog is closer to the real truth of the matter. most people who have only met me a few times are certain that i am on something, but i'm not. just because tbc are able to be astoundingly creative doesn't mean they had to have a little help to be that way. Quote: nothing wrong with unlocking a little extra potential
huh? how is addling your brains unlocking potential? i'll never understand that point of view. it would seem to me that "participating" does nothing but destroy potential, slowly and discreetly. |
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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:32 am ] |
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Quote: get what you are saying rose... but if there are/were any forums out there specifically for H*R that are like that i'm sure they wouldn't last very long because that kind of atmosphere attracts some pretty unpleasant people.
I really don't think that's true. Any forum can attract unpleasant people, and people will always find ways to weasel around the rules. I just want a forum where I don't have to be afraid to constantly check my posts to make sure I haven't made a minor swear word, where I can share my full opinions on H*R based on my understanding of the people behind it, who are indeed adults, and where I can engage in a community that can talk about a variety of things without having to "censor" anything in the least bit adult. |
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| Author: | Jenny [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:41 am ] |
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what i meant was, the unpleasant people would remain in the forum. if you have a loose forum like that, people would take advantage of it and get away with it. here, people try to weasel and just get kicked out. |
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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:51 am ] |
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More adult atmospheres, or more lax does not equate to "undesirable" people. Some of the best forums I've been on have been the most lax ones; don't give people reason to rebel. |
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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:54 am ] |
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Christmas Rose wrote: There's plenty of Drug references in H*R, and it's pretty obvious TBC are stoned most of the time
Well, I won;t say it's not maybe plausible, but to actually do the kind of humor TBC do, all you need to do is put some absurd thing in there. Besides, TBC seem like the kind of people who wouldn;t do that kind of thing. |
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| Author: | Jenny [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:57 am ] |
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yeah, i guess i'm on a forum that allows swearing and it isn't overrun or anything... but you know, even on adult forums (and i may have mentioned this before) it blows me away how immature and silly people can be. there are 10 year olds on here with more etiquette than half the 30+ year olds on a news forum i belong to. is this one strict? i can't tell... anyone belong to it? what is the age range? seems kinda young-ish yet... http://www.burninghorizon.com/hsrforum/index.php/ heres another forum: http://www.hsrforum.com/ seems a little familiar... |
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| Author: | Encountering Gremlins [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:12 am ] |
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I dunno.... I don't disagree that the moderation on language here is a little much at times, though I accept it as part of the rules, and in a way it probably helps make this place more friendly than it might be otherwise. And as far as more open topics, maybe I'd be proven wrong about this, but I haven't found the more suggestive and 'adult' discussions related to H*R that have come up very interesting ('which character(s) are gay?', 'are TBC drug users?', etc). Maybe you and some other people do, but I just don't think TBC use that kind of mindset when creating H*R characters and plots, and I think only a minority of fans would get anything out of those discussions. Adults certainly make up a decent part of their fanbase, sure, but the younger (say, less than 16) crowd is still the majority of it, as obviously proven by those registered here, and I can't see that changing any time soon. |
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| Author: | Jenny [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:20 am ] |
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i just found a forum that was WAY stricter than this one... holy crap... we don't have it that bad here, guys. |
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| Author: | Power Crunch [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:06 am ] |
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Heh. You don't have to be on drugs to come up with incredibly ridiculous things. Sometimes two people being put together come up with some of the most absurbd things. lol. I know two of my friends who when you put with myself equals hillarity. A lot of people think I'm on something too, lol. But really, some of us out there are just wierd. I think TBC (more specifically MATT) are like that and they just have lots of crazy ideas and a good imagination. Plus, I too believe they probably don't do any kind of drugs. But drinking... they probably knock back a few "Cold ones" every now and then. |
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| Author: | Lunar Jesty [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:21 am ] |
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The "which character is gay?" topic was locked because it was turning into a flame war, a one sided flame war against you, Rosalie. Perhaps you would have found results in an older HR forum. Perhaps not. The truth is, the issues expressed in a cartoon like this have the same meaning for almost everyone. You could ask any adult that watches H*R that same question, and I doubt even 10 percent would answer anything but "no one." The "TBC are on drugs" topic were locked and destroyed because the one arguing the point was a total idiot, and because they're obviously not. It's the same with They Might Be Giants: I doubt they do anything but drink when they create their music. Yes, 90% of modern artists likely do drugs: but TBC have a certain difference, a break from H. R. Pufinstuf, that makes them a unique cartoon that doesn't have to meet the standards of pop art. But by all means, you can leave. I'm not going to ask you to change your personality, and neither are the other admins. Go to burninghorizon, or homestarrules. Homestarrules might be specifically good for you: they came here not too long ago and got annoyed by our strict rules. So go there, if you're complaining. If you can help yourself, by all means, plase go somewhere else. |
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| Author: | Kittie Rose [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:07 pm ] |
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Jenny wrote: i just found a forum that was WAY stricter than this one... holy crap... we don't have it that bad here, guys. Yeah, I agree, if you go to Homestar Rules. The name is quite possibly the ultimate Irony as the have 20 Rules, all of which are very specific and narky. Quote: there are 10 year olds on here with more etiquette than half the 30+ year olds on a news forum i belong to.
I actually agree with that. You get more arrogance with age than wisdom. The smartest demographic online is probably between 17 and 25. The younger generations in general(17-30s) are much smarter than the old generation these days, because the older generation get stuck up and uphold "The old rules" far too much just for the sake of it. |
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| Author: | Lor [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:40 pm ] |
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I find that forums graced more by adults have a proportionally smaller amount of profanity on them. The more profanity the more likely it is that the board is populated by younger-teenagers. I find that prohibiting obscenity in no way limits or constrains me, on the wiki or on the forums. I don't think allowing it would add any value to the forums. As for discussing drug references, I'm not sure what the wiki/forum's precise policy is, but I have no problem with people discussing them in an objective and precise manner, I -do- have a problem with people arbitrarily assigning drug-related meanings and connotations to things in the H*R universe. We all love H*R, and as long as its possible, I think we should echo the spirit of that universe. + Lor. |
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| Author: | wave0babies [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:50 pm ] |
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Christmas Rose wrote: There's plenty of Drug references in H*R, and it's pretty obvious TBC are stoned most of the time, as with many other great artists, nothing wrong with unlocking a little extra potential. Even most kids programs have them. I only pulled that one thing out of the air as I was talking about it with DP, I don't personally do drugs myself.
Wow talk about dissrespectful. You wanna badmouth, do it somewhere else. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:58 pm ] |
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Lor wrote: I find that forums graced more by adults have a proportionally smaller amount of profanity on them.
... As for discussing drug references, I'm not sure what the wiki/forum's precise policy is, but I have no problem with people discussing them in an objective and precise manner, I -do- have a problem with people arbitrarily assigning drug-related meanings and connotations to things in the H*R universe. I agree on all counts. |
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| Author: | Jonn-E [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:28 pm ] |
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*cough* BONUS STAGE! funny, adult jokes and ex and drug references. eg. ep 71 start. <this funny joke has been censored because only OUR eyes may see them!> |
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| Author: | Jenny [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 7:44 pm ] |
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Lor wrote: I find that forums graced more by adults have a proportionally smaller amount of profanity on them.
I agree, there is less profanity... but more ignorance and rudeness. I feel the same way about not attaching those references to H*R stuff though. It makes me sad that some people feel they have to do that... 
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| Author: | Acekirby [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:57 pm ] |
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The only real one I can think of that you might want to check out is Homestar Rules. Of course, you are welcome to create your own if any of the existing forums are not satisfactory. |
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| Author: | The Noid [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:33 pm ] |
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Okay, let me have my side of the voice. I think Rosalie is talking about people like me when she says stuff like "it's too kiddy-orientated". Well, Homestar is pretty freaking kiddy-orientated(and the other stuff is probabaly so obscure to seven year olds they wouldn't even find it as a joke.) We just want to keep this place civilised(which I probably just mispelled.), and not have it filled with innappropriate questions. We want this place to be like Homestar-occasionally, a few references, but nothing too major. So, uhh...I think I just explained nothing there. If you are planning on having a mature discussin, like questioning whether or not the TBC are on crack, I suggest you PM a mod and write "Warning Mature Discussion" in the title. Or, you can just create your own forum. Your choice. (Also, where in the name of crap did you get the idea that they are on drugs?) |
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| Author: | Acekirby [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:36 pm ] |
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The Noid wrote: (Also, where in the name of crap did you get the idea that they are on drugs?) That wasn't Rosalie. Re-read Jesty's post. Lunar Jesty wrote: The "TBC are on drugs" topic were locked and destroyed because the one arguing the point was a total idiot, and because they're obviously not. It's the same with They Might Be Giants: I doubt they do anything but drink when they create their music. Yes, 90% of modern artists likely do drugs: but TBC have a certain difference, a break from H. R. Pufinstuf, that makes them a unique cartoon that doesn't have to meet the standards of pop art.
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| Author: | The Noid [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:40 pm ] |
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Acekirby wrote: The Noid wrote: (Also, where in the name of crap did you get the idea that they are on drugs?) That wasn't Rosalie. Re-read Jesty's post. Lunar Jesty wrote: The "TBC are on drugs" topic were locked and destroyed because the one arguing the point was a total idiot, and because they're obviously not. It's the same with They Might Be Giants: I doubt they do anything but drink when they create their music. Yes, 90% of modern artists likely do drugs: but TBC have a certain difference, a break from H. R. Pufinstuf, that makes them a unique cartoon that doesn't have to meet the standards of pop art. No, she said that "they are obviously stoned", which I can't find any clues for that. |
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| Author: | Acekirby [ Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:43 pm ] |
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Ah, I didn't see that. Beats the heck out of me, then. |
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