From Crap to Cool

Marbles01 · **Posted:** Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:42 pm

Definately Jetix which was formerly known as Fox Kids. A lot of the shows that made that channel crap are gone. Even though there are still some crap shows a lot of them are great.

netzen · **Posted:** Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:46 pm

I hate to tell you this, but this has already been made. I'd post a link if I could find it.

Ju Ju Master · **Joined:** Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:01 am **Posts:** 6245

netzen wrote:

I hate to tell you this, but this has already been made. I'd post a link if I could find it.

You sure? I thought there was only a cool to crap thread. Link would be nice.

Marbles01 · **Posted:** Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:12 pm

Ju Ju Master wrote:

netzen wrote:

I hate to tell you this, but this has already been made. I'd post a link if I could find it.

You sure? I thought there was only a cool to crap thread. Link would be nice.

So did I. That is why I made this topic. A link would definately be nice

extremejon09 · **Joined:** Mon May 10, 2004 10:28 pm **Posts:** 4675

Bonus Stage.

netzen · **Posted:** Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:54 pm

OHHHHH!!!!! I thought..... Ok its the opposite. Sorry.
Ummmm, computers? I dunno, it's all I can think of now.

The Snork · **Posted:** Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:29 pm

Well, of course computers have changed from crap to cool! Par example:

<Altair 8800>

OMG BLINKYLIGHTS!!

<Alienware>

OMG HALFLIFE 2!!

...Or maybe not.

ChickenLeg · **Posted:** Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:32 pm

Marbles01 wrote:

Definately Jetix which was formerly known as Fox Kids. A lot of the shows that made that channel crap are gone. Even though there are still some crap shows a lot of them are great.

I thought it went from cool to crap, then cool again, then recently back down to crap when it switched to extended cable and changed the lineup.

Anyway, one thing that went from crap to cool is portable music. Sure, the Walkman was revolutionary at the time, but now there's a lot more music that can be played in something that's smaller than the Walkman. In retrospect, it seemed like crap at the time. But good crap at least.

Inverse Tiger · **Posted:** Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:37 pm

For some reason, it's a lot harder to think of things that started out bad and got good than the other way around.

The only thing I can even remotely think of is Salvador Dali, who started out "meh", then got into drippy clocks & stuff ("cool") and then really out there religious art ("AWESOME!"). That dude just got crazier and crazier, for the better. Supposedly some hippie icon like Timothy Leary or Jerry Garcia met him at a party somewhere and was talking about drugs, and Dali said something like "I don't need drugs, I AM DRUGS!" More crazy artists please.

AwPi · **Posted:** Sun Oct 15, 2006 11:51 pm

The Wizard of Oz went from crap to cool when I learned about the guy who hung himself and I stopped being afraid of the lion.

ready for prime time · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:07 am

AwPi wrote:

The Wizard of Oz went from crap to cool when I learned about the guy who hung himself and I stopped being afraid of the lion.

what was that?

Shippinator Mandy · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:43 am

ready for prime time wrote:

AwPi wrote:

The Wizard of Oz went from crap to cool when I learned about the guy who hung himself and I stopped being afraid of the lion.

what was that?

An urban legend.

Marbles01 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:51 am

ChickenLeg wrote:

Marbles01 wrote:

Definately Jetix which was formerly known as Fox Kids. A lot of the shows that made that channel crap are gone. Even though there are still some crap shows a lot of them are great.

I thought it went from cool to crap, then cool again, then recently back down to crap when it switched to extended cable and changed the lineup.

Anyway, one thing that went from crap to cool is portable music. Sure, the Walkman was revolutionary at the time, but now there's a lot more music that can be played in something that's smaller than the Walkman. In retrospect, it seemed like crap at the time. But good crap at least.

I have got that channel on Sky. There are some great shows like Naruto on there. Unfortunately there is a new Power Rangers TV Series coming! :((

Duecex2 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:32 pm

Shippinator Mandy wrote:

ready for prime time wrote:

AwPi wrote:

The Wizard of Oz went from crap to cool when I learned about the guy who hung himself and I stopped being afraid of the lion.

what was that?

An urban legend.

lol, snopes link

I dunno. I was scared of the witch until I was 10. She friggen' creeped me out. Kinda like the first season of Power Rangers.

Dark Grapefruit · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:25 pm

American Dad. I thought the pilto and first few episodes were terrible, but then I kept hearing great things about it on Toonzone so I gave it another chance. Now it's one of my favourite cartoons.

Marbles01 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:33 pm

Dark Grapefruit wrote:

American Dad. I thought the pilto and first few episodes were terrible, but then I kept hearing great things about it on Toonzone so I gave it another chance. Now it's one of my favourite cartoons.

Oh yeah American Dad started out mediocre but developed into a great cartoon.

Shippinator Mandy · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:54 pm

duecex2 wrote:

lol, snopes link

MANDY THE URBAN LEGEND ENTHUSIAST TO THE RESCUUUUUUEEEEE!

...Wow, I'm the lamest superhero ever.

And someone mentioned Bonus Stage...well, I sorta agree and sorta disagree. Compared to the later episodes, yeah, the earlier episodes suck, but there are still some good moments. (CREEPY ENDING!) But they're definitely not as good as the later ones. So I wouldn't say it went from crap to cool, just that the early episodes are crappy compared to the later ones. But this is just my opinion, and I totally understand where you're coming from.

Also, I'm, lyk, the only person who didn't like Joel and Phil's original voices. They didn't fit somehow.

Another one: The Simpsons. Season one was kinda not so good. Homer's voice was annoying, nobody was well characterized, and the animation SUCKED! But by season two it was a great show. (My favorite episode, in fact, is from season two: Lisa's Substitute.)

Of course, then it went downhill again...

Mr. Sparkle · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:58 pm

Shippinator Mandy wrote:

Another one: The Simpsons. Season one was kinda not so good. Homer's voice was annoying, nobody was well characterized, and the animation SUCKED! But by season two it was a great show. (My favorite episode, in fact, is from season two: Lisa's Substitute.)

Of course, then it went downhill again...

The worst part is that those are the only episodes they show.

I don't feel like buying the DVDs, so I just watch them off the internet.

Cybernetic Teenybopper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 8:56 pm

I'll second portable music. I mean, 8-tracks, Doubleyou Tee Eff? But now you got MP3 players. Rocks.

bwave · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:10 pm

I know that at first reaction, someone will get mad, but we have to admit it:

Homestar runner. It was just a kids book. Then it was some cartoons (slightly poorly made, BTW). Finally, somewhere down the line, it became awesome.

And props to TBC for redoing some of their old stuff, like the KOT and Yello Dello DVDs.

Duecex2 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:24 pm

Mr. Sparkle wrote:

Shippinator Mandy wrote:

Another one: The Simpsons. Season one was kinda not so good. Homer's voice was annoying, nobody was well characterized, and the animation SUCKED! But by season two it was a great show. (My favorite episode, in fact, is from season two: Lisa's Substitute.)

Of course, then it went downhill again...

The worst part is that those are the only episodes they show.

I don't feel like buying the DVDs, so I just watch them off the internet.

Nah, I don't think the Simpsons got good until season 3. I love "Star Raving Dad" and "Saturdays of Thunder". Then the Simpsons were in a golden age until about 1997. Then *some* of the episodes began to suck.

My crap to cool: The internet. It sucked in the 90's, but by the 2000's it got really awesome.

Cybernetic Teenybopper · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:12 pm

This is gonna sound really dumb, but Pokemon movies.

The first one was super lame. Second one cooler. I recently watched Destiny Deoxys, a really recent one, and it was flipping AWESOME. You know. To a Pokemon fan.

Duecex2 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:16 pm

Cybernetic Teenybopper wrote:

This is gonna sound really dumb, but Pokemon movies.

The first one was super lame. Second one cooler. I recently watched Destiny Deoxys, a really recent one, and it was flipping AWESOME.

No. It was cool to crap. The first one pwned. The second one was so/so, and the third was decent crap. Then they started going straight to DVD, and got progressivly crappy.

bwave · **Posted:** Mon Oct 16, 2006 11:15 pm

duecex2 wrote:

Cybernetic Teenybopper wrote:

This is gonna sound really dumb, but Pokemon movies.

The first one was super lame. Second one cooler. I recently watched Destiny Deoxys, a really recent one, and it was flipping AWESOME.

No. It was cool to crap. The first one pwned. The second one was so/so, and the third was decent crap. Then they started going straight to DVD, and got progressivly crappy.

Second'd.

Actually, I think most of the series went from cool to crap, not just the movies. Whenever they ran out of ideas, they just made more pokemon. It eventually followed a formula, and lost its appeal, mostly.

It's still okay, but just a shadow of what it used to be.

More things that went from crap to cool:

BBSes: dialing up? That was way too much work!
Mitch hedberg's stand-up career. (Crap to cool to dead)

Marbles01 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:10 am

bwave wrote:

duecex2 wrote:

Cybernetic Teenybopper wrote:

This is gonna sound really dumb, but Pokemon movies.

The first one was super lame. Second one cooler. I recently watched Destiny Deoxys, a really recent one, and it was flipping AWESOME.

No. It was cool to crap. The first one pwned. The second one was so/so, and the third was decent crap. Then they started going straight to DVD, and got progressivly crappy.

Second'd.

Actually, I think most of the series went from cool to crap, not just the movies. Whenever they ran out of ideas, they just made more pokemon. It eventually followed a formula, and lost its appeal, mostly.

It's still okay, but just a shadow of what it used to be.

More things that went from crap to cool:

BBSes: dialing up? That was way too much work!
Mitch hedberg's stand-up career. (Crap to cool to dead)

Pokemon was never cool. I only like the games.

Alberto · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:16 am

http://forum.hrwiki.org/viewtopic.php?t=9122&start=0
You guys didn't search very hard, it was only a couple pages back.

Peter222 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:18 pm

This is from crap to cool. That was from cool to crap.

Duecex2 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:34 pm

Alberto's turning into IJ on the ismmonia thread.

Bulldozer · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:35 pm

Hmm... things that went from crap to cool...

Here's an obvious one: The Internet. I mean, alt.newsgroups to Homestar Runner... how much more crap to cool can it get?

Here's another one, but maybe more personal: American Anime. Sure, there are exceptions to those being crap to cool, but can anyone compare, say, Fullmetal Alchemest or Bleach or the other Adult Swim Non-Mecha Animes to the old-school Dragonball Z? Geez, I get sick even thinking about how I used to halfway like DBZ, but Bleach et al are amazing. I just wish Naruto had followed the same trend; unfortunately, America decided that that one was apparently too good to be left alone and completely ruined it.

Cybernetic Teenybopper · **Posted:** Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:50 pm

Bulldozer wrote:

Here's another one, but maybe more personal: American Anime. Sure, there are exceptions to those being crap to cool, but can anyone compare, say, Fullmetal Alchemest or Bleach or the other Adult Swim Non-Mecha Animes to the old-school Dragonball Z? Geez, I get sick even thinking about how I used to halfway like DBZ, but Bleach et al are amazing. I just wish Naruto had followed the same trend; unfortunately, America decided that that one was apparently too good to be left alone and completely ruined it.

I have never found Bleach cool. There are waaaay better dubs out there. Better plots too. As far as I've seen, it's still just a fairly generic battleme. And the dubbing still needs work. XD So far, I've seen maybe one or two anime shows dubbed correctly, with the rest being movies.

</endbleachrant> Still better than Naruto though, IMO.

But when you said American anime, I thought you meant anime-styled American shows. Which I'll agree with. The earliest examples of American anime ripoffage were dumb and ugly, but Avatar is awesome--great art, deep plot and characters, humorous without resorting to overused anime techniques, and unlike any American-made cartoon I've seen in a long time, it makes me cry. And it too has really improved from its start, even though its start was still fairly strong.

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