ready for prime time wrote:
it's easy. with the lines used to join time A to time B, get a whole lot of them and make a cube.
Oh come on, you were just ASKING for it.
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| Author: | extremejon09 [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:23 am ] |
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We all know about the 1st-3rd dimensions, and a few of us can grasp the ideals behind the 4th one. Yet, this website informs us of all the others, 10 dimensions in all. I don't want to try to explain it myself, so just watch the flash video in amazement, and discuss here. Click on the little Helix on the right side to start the walkthrough. http://www.tenthdimension.com/flash2.php OW. |
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| Author: | Rusty [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:28 am ] |
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I'm on the 4th dimension. So far, it's making sense, but I don't know where it'll go on 4. |
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| Author: | ready for prime time [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:31 am ] |
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i get it! |
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| Author: | Rusty [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:39 am ] |
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Right, right... Well, it would make sense of there being only 10 dimensions, and it's all a loop, going back to the point concept over and over. |
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| Author: | Shwoo [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:41 am ] |
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Now that is really interesting. I've always believed in alternate universes, but I'd never heard the reasoning behind them before. |
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| Author: | Spyrox6 [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:43 am ] |
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Very interesting. Very difficult also, but I think I get a bit of it. I can sort of explain the 4th dimension from reading a short story. If we lived in a 4 dimensional house, we'd see ourself ahead of us, above and below us. We'd also go in an endless line because theirs no exit inside a 4th dimesional house. But studying the other dimensions are for the very smart Mathmaticians. I'm only the pretty smart group. |
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| Author: | iKipapa [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:44 am ] |
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That is impossibly complicated for me. Ehh? |
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| Author: | ready for prime time [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:45 am ] |
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not really. |
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| Author: | extremejon09 [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:46 am ] |
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I think my brain cells died in a fire. |
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| Author: | ready for prime time [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:47 am ] |
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oh, come on. |
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| Author: | ButtdanceHR [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:53 am ] |
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I understand it all. It just doesn't exactly seem like a 'dimension'. Insteresting though. Thanks. |
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| Author: | PianoManGidley [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:19 am ] |
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Spyrox6 wrote: I can sort of explain the 4th dimension from reading a short story. If we lived in a 4 dimensional house, we'd see ourself ahead of us, above and below us. We'd also go in an endless line because theirs no exit inside a 4th dimesional house.
If you mean the temporal dimension as the 4th dimension and having it sort of switch places with one of the spatial dimensions, then yes. But to introduce a 4th spatial dimension (on top of the 3 we have right now) is a completely different concept. Essentially, you could walk through walls and see around corners and stuff, if you knew how to see and move in 4 spatial dimensions. EDIT: Just watched the film--AWESOME! It explains stuff real clearly, and I see the temporal route they took with increasing dimensions. This will help me with a story idea I've been conceptualizing. |
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| Author: | Shwoo [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:22 am ] |
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Is the concept really that confusing for most people? I guess I'm missing something, because I understood it perfectly. |
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| Author: | Capt. Ido Nos [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:32 am ] |
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*bangs table* Aha! Finally! Alright, while that was a wee bit of a headache to watch, that finally got me understanding all that dimensional nonsense XD Ahhh, that was pretty cool, actually. |
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| Author: | King of Katamari [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:43 pm ] |
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Well, a point has no dimensions, so how can we be so sure that the tenth dimension even exists? |
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| Author: | extremejon09 [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:50 pm ] |
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King of Katamari wrote: Well, a point has no dimensions, so how can we be so sure that the tenth dimension even exists?
Because everything forever (and never) is contained within it? |
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| Author: | Cybernetic Teenybopper [ Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:59 pm ] |
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There's no such thing as never in the tenth dimension. Everything is ever. Everything that could exist does. That's a cool find. I love string theory stuff. However, this doesn't really explain what these dimensions ARE, entriely, just what travel through them is. Except for like the tenth dimension, which is, of course, everything. I want to watch those string theory documentaries from NOVA again. |
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| Author: | Ju Ju Master [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:09 am ] |
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Very interesting. I always knew time was considered the 4th dimmension, but I never thought of it as a line, repeating the first, and never even dwelled upon anything after that. The 8th dimmension they mention, however, is almost like two. A lot of scientists hypothesize 11 dimmensions, whioch could be obtained by splitting the 8th into two different concepts, almost. |
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| Author: | Rusty [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:20 am ] |
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Thought of something interesting. You know the question of nothingness? Well, what if nothing exists outside of the tenth dimension as a dimension? An 11th dimension. Because I don't think nothing exists in our universe, but it may be some separate thing..a dimension sounded probable. |
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| Author: | Einoo T. Spork [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:44 am ] |
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I got it. Of course, I didn't REALLY get it; no creature on Earth has the brain capacity to imagine folding time, let alone all the possibilities for everything in every single universe ever created. But I got the concept of it, I think. |
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| Author: | ready for prime time [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:37 am ] |
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it's easy. with the lines used to join time A to time B, get a whole lot of them and make a cube. |
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| Author: | Einoo T. Spork [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 1:50 am ] |
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ready for prime time wrote: it's easy. with the lines used to join time A to time B, get a whole lot of them and make a cube.
Oh come on, you were just ASKING for it.
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| Author: | The Snork [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:06 am ] |
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Well, considering that the tenth dimension theoretically encompasses every possible point, every possible line, every possible three-dimensional figure, every possible sequence of time, and every possible infinity, I feel inordinately small now. And to think that we act like our little escapades here on Earth's surface are significant... |
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| Author: | Shwoo [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:25 am ] |
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They are. To us. To the tenth dimensional beings that may or may not exist, not so much. If the tenth dimension is infinite, does that mean that everything imaginable exists within it? |
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| Author: | extremejon09 [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:22 am ] |
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Shwoo wrote: They are. To us. To the tenth dimensional beings that may or may not exist, not so much.
If the tenth dimension is infinite, does that mean that everything imaginable exists within it? Not only is it infinite, but it has an infinity of infinitys within it. Or something. 
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| Author: | Shwoo [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:31 am ] |
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Infinity and an infinite amount of infinities are the same thing, aren't they? Like infinity and negative infinity are the same thing. I think. |
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| Author: | PianoManGidley [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:34 am ] |
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One thing that gets me is this: To get to the 7th dimension, if a single point is infinity (all timelines from the beginning of the universe to all possible endings, folding and travelling in every which way), and the other point is a new infinity, wherein it is speculated that a seperate universe exists, in which new laws regarding physics and the like exist, then how could it be connected to our universe using our concept of dimensional travel, since such a concept is based purely on our own universe's preset laws and conditions? Wouldn't the possibility of a wholly different set of physical laws mean that 7th dimensional travel could very well not even exist to that infinity? |
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| Author: | Occasional JD [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 4:41 am ] |
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Wow. That was cool. I don't know why people are having such a hard time with this. It seems to make sense to me. Also, Donnie Darko makes more sense. |
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| Author: | BazookaJoe [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 5:45 am ] |
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PianoManGidley wrote: One thing that gets me is this: To get to the 7th dimension, if a single point is infinity (all timelines from the beginning of the universe to all possible endings, folding and travelling in every which way), and the other point is a new infinity, wherein it is speculated that a seperate universe exists, in which new laws regarding physics and the like exist, then how could it be connected to our universe using our concept of dimensional travel, since such a concept is based purely on our own universe's preset laws and conditions? Wouldn't the possibility of a wholly different set of physical laws mean that 7th dimensional travel could very well not even exist to that infinity?
It's like how you have to transcend the zero dimension's physical laws (and its concept of infinity) in order to draw a line to make the first dimension, I'd say. Cool site, btw, extremejon. |
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| Author: | extremejon09 [ Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:48 pm ] |
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