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Author:  TheNintenGenius [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 6:57 pm ]
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Nothing except Mary Jane, that is. And Necco Wafers.

Another rant:

Clark Bars: As if you needed more proof that the makers of Necco Wafers and Mary Jane couldn't make decent candy if their lives depended on it (yes, the same company makes Necco Wafers and Mary Jane. They're THAT evil), there's the Clark Bar. What attempts to be a candy bar similar in style to a Butterfinger just comes off as a horribly nasty rip-off. Kind of like what would happen if you took a Butterfinger, dipped it in the Poopsmith's dipping bucket, then set it on fire for good measure.

Author:  Tompkins [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:25 pm ]
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This is my first rant. CEREAL!!!

reese puffs: crappy advertising, 'OH WOW! YOU EAT CANDY FOR BRAKEFAST?!" and the cereal tast nothing like reeses. If you look at the back, you see Athletic people doing sports while eating reese puffs. Who eats sugar for breakfast and becomes a football player/bassball/biker/skater?

nes.Quick cereal: this stuff tasts like crap to me, and when you stir it, It does nothing but change the color of the milk.Stir up some fun? since when is striring cereal any fun?

oreo cereal: THIS STUFF TASTS LIKE CRAP!!! Thats all I got to say...

Author:  Shaon [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:32 pm ]
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Yu Yu Hakusho (for gba): who wants a game that put a professional to SLEEP???

Grayhound collars: ok. They're to big on a adult male AND female grayhound. WHAT IS THE POINT OF THEM???

Fruit Loops: when I was three, I ate these, and got blue direarea. My mom complained, and we got a coupon for a free box of them.

Author:  No Toppings [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:33 pm ]
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GCN: I mean what is up with this thing, its price has already dropped to $60 and its controls are terribe

Nintendo DS: Who really needs two screens any ways, i mean a touch screen, how are we gonna use that in a racing game?

Author:  InterruptorJones [ Mon Sep 27, 2004 8:39 pm ]
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Shaon wrote:
Fruit Loops: when I was three, I ate these, and got blue direarea.


T. M. I.

Author:  Thnikkagirl [ Tue Sep 28, 2004 1:05 am ]
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Trix: If Trix are for kids, and they can card people for buying alcohol and "cigs", why don't they card parents who buy them? Poor, innocent kids are being denied cereal from adults who want it for themselves AND have to wait years to gain access to alcohol...It's enough to make me cry (okay, that was a "stupid" rant on a product).

Sierra Mist: It's like they took 1/4 sprite, 1/4 7up and 1/2 nasty (and expect people to buy it)...Most people say it tastes the same, but those people are old...and have stupid polo shirts on (yeah, that means you Oswald)

Camera Phones: The worst kind of camera possible. While they're good for spur-of-the-moment picture taking, the rest of the time, they're unnecessary.

and finally, A "teenage girl" rant...

Anything from Wet Seal: A store similar to Forever 21 or Tilly's...only crappier. The clothes there are either too tight or too ugly. I got a gift certificate for there once, and almost everything I bought either fell apart (earrings, and several times after I got them replaced) or made me look fat (the ultimate TGS "NO GOOD!"). And for some strange reason, If you don't shop there or at another expensive clothes shop, you're "cheap"...I've gotten a lot of stuff from Target (clothes and jewelry...and pencil moisteners) that have lasted a LOT longer than stuff from there. I've learned my lesson: T-Shirts and jeans are just peachy for me.

Author:  No Loafing [ Tue Sep 28, 2004 2:03 am ]
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No Toppings wrote:
GCN: I mean what is up with this thing, its price has already dropped to $60 and its controls are terribe

Disagree
No Toppings wrote:
Nintendo DS: Who really needs two screens any ways, i mean a touch screen, how are we gonna use that in a racing game?

Well then see screenshots from Mario Kart DS!

Author:  woddfellow2 [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:34 pm ]
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TheNintenGenius wrote:
Mountain Dew: Pitch Black: When is Pepsi (makers of Mountain Dew) going to just give up on the new flavors already? I mean, sure, Code Red was really nice, but Livewire wasn't all that great, and this stuff's simply terrible. It's basically what you'd get if you crossed grape cough syrup with soda water. Meanwhile, Pepsi comes out with a great Mountain Dew flavor (Baja Blast), and makes it Taco Bell exclusive. Can you say "screwed up?"


But [sic] I kind of [sic] like that [BLEEP] paperclip... I mean soft drink.

Author:  woddfellow2 [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:40 pm ]
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Thikkagirl wrote:
Camera Phones: The worst kind of camera possible. While they're good for spur-of-the-moment picture taking, the rest of the time, they're unnecessary.


Well, there is this newer model Nokia telephone that takes a high quality picture. I don't remember what number, though.

Update: It took me 5 months to notice this (:eek:), but I double posted. I'm sorry.

Author:  StrongCanada [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:43 pm ]
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woddfellow2 wrote:
Thikkagirl wrote:
Camera Phones: The worst kind of camera possible. While they're good for spur-of-the-moment picture taking, the rest of the time, they're unnecessary.


Well, there is this newer model Nokia telephone that takes a high quality picture. I don't remember what number, though.


And then there's my stupid phone that cuts out every time I talk to someone....grrrrrr... :copter:

Author:  woddfellow2 [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 6:54 pm ]
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Internet Explorer: This stuff is crap! It was originally Spyglass Mosaic, and then (I think) they somehow reverse engineered it and crapped in their editor window when they were rewriting the code! It hasn't been rewritten! Netscape Navigator got a rewrite 6 years ago! M$ should do the same! I mean, it won't render some sites correctly! Go to this site to find out more about the dangers of this 18-inch log.

Colloquialisms: See this entry in my blog to see the dangers of colloquialisms. You can also read this article on improper grammar.

Author:  InterruptorJones [ Wed Oct 06, 2004 8:08 pm ]
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woddfellow2 wrote:
Internet Explorer: This stuff is crap! It was originally Spyglass Mosaic, and then (I think) they somehow reverse engineered it and crapped in their editor window when they were rewriting the code! It hasn't been rewritten! Netscape Navigator got a rewrite 6 years ago! M$ should do the same!


Wow, talk about confused. Okay, here's how it went down. Marc Andreesen invented the World Wide Web (not the internet, for those of you who get the two confused). In doing so, he created the first version of HTML (an application of SGML, which he did not invent) and wrote the first web browser, Mosaic (which eventually became known as NCSA Mosaic after the National Center for Supercomputing Applications where it was created). NCSA Mosaic was the only web browser for awhile, and as the first web browser ever written it was a fine piece of software. Sometime between 1990 and 1994 Spyglass, Inc. (an offshoot of the U of Illinois found in 1990) licensed the technology from NCSA and the Mosaic trademark and released Spyglass Mosaic. They weren't the only ones -- Spry and Quarterdeck (names the younger of you probably won't recognize -- irc.qdeck.com used to be a great IRC server).

Then, in 1994 Andreesen co-founded Netscape Communications Corp. and they released Netscape Navigator(which was codenamed Mozilla, because it was intended to be a Mosaic-killer). It, too, was based on NCSA Mosaic. I've used Netscape 1.1, and to be honest, I've had worse experiences.

A year later, Microsoft finally realized that if they didn't get in on this internet thing, they were gonna miss out big time, so they licensed the source code and IP for Spyglass' Mosaic and basically re-branded it as Internet Explorer 1.0. In a brilliant and nefarious move, Microsoft's agreement was that they'd pay Spyglass, Inc. a small quarterly fee and a percentage of their revenues from the software. The brillian/nefarious part is that Microsoft gave it away for free, so essentially didn't have to pay Spyglass anything.

So no, Microsoft didn't "reverse-engineer" Spyglass Mosaic. They bought it (Microsoft does not innovate, they just buy companies and buy technology from companies that do).

Anyhow, the Spyglass code that Microsoft bought was seriously behind what Andreesen and crew were doing at Netscape, and as a result Internet Explorer was a far inferior product. It gained a little traction because it was bundled with every copy of Windows 95, but versions 2.0 and 3.0 were still very poor compared to Netscape's offerings (they were doing things like cookies, Java and JavaScript). Then came Version 4. It was still based on the same core, but had caught up with Netscape in every respect. In all honesty, it was a very strong product. And it was fast. And when IE 5 was released, Netscape, whose product was just comparable in features and far slower and buggier, saw its market share plummet.

In 1998, Netscape saw that all was not going according to plan and they needed to do something drastic in order not to cede the browser wars to Microsoft. They decided to open-source Netscape and rewrite its code from scratch in a project it called Mozilla. They figured it would take a year. It didn't, and Netscape decided divert programmers back to the old Netscape program to release Netscape 4.7 based on the old code. In 2000, after a buy-out by AOL, Netscape finally released a browser based on the Mozilla code. Giving 5.0 a miss entirely, they called it Netscape 6.0. The new product was based on pre-release Mozilla code and was huge, slow, and buggy. So were versions 6.1 and 6.2. All the while Microsoft was making new releases. They were pretty much ignored, and rightly so, by everybody. In 2002 AOL/Netscape released Netscape 7.0 based on the faster and more stable Mozilla 1.0, and later 7.1 based on Mozilla 1.4. They were ignored as well.

On July 15 of 2003, AOL laid off the entire remaining Netscape development team. AOL made a 7.2 release this August, but the Netscape team will never rise again in its original form.

At this point, Microsoft was pretty comfortable in having won the browser wars. Internet Explorer development essentially stagnated after version 5.0, with releases 5.5 and 6.0 being little more than minor feature boosts and bug fixes.

In the meantime, the Netscape developers that were given the boot by AOL formed the Mozilla Foundation to continue creating web browsers and other software based on Mozilla (which, as you'll recall, was open-sourced prior to the AOL buy-out). While the giant (Microsoft) was sleeping, they continued to make releases of Mozilla. In 2002 they began an experimental branch of the browser called Phoenix with the intention of competing directly with Internet Explorer. That browser was later renamed "Firebird" and then, Firefox.

Since the introduction of Firefox (along with advances in the Opera browser and Apple's Safari), Internet Explorer's market share has seen significant declines, due largely because of a number of recent critical security issues as well as scourges like spyware and pop-up windows and recommendations by journalists and security firms to switch to alternate browsers.

So, no, Microsoft didn't "reverse engineer" Spyglass Mosaic, and the re-write of the Netscape browser was pretty much a bust for the first four of those six years and is pretty meaningless in the context of today.

Microsoft is not a company that rewrites things needlessly. The problem with Internet Explorer has nothing to do with the fact that there's ancient code hiding here and there. Rewriting a program for the sake of rewriting it is naive, and Microsoft knows that. One can assume that any code in IE left over from Spyglass Mosaic is insignifant at most. Internet Explorer's problems lie not in its old code, but in its stagnant development, utter lack of innovation, and a number of significant rendering and scripting bugs/incompatabilities that cause web developers all sorts of headaches.

If you want to know more about Marc Andreesen, Mosaic, Netscape, Mozilla, or Internet Explorer, try Wikipedia. All of the above information came from there.

Author:  InvaderTK [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:43 pm ]
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This is the best...thread...ever!

Mega Man NT Warrior Toyses and Such: Okay, I played the original Mega Man: EXE game and I do not remember Lan eating everything! And, as if that weren't enough we have toys that are released exactly like pokemon! Electronic battle thingys! WTF? If this keeps coming I will hunt down whoever had that idea up in CapCom!

Author:  woddfellow2 [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:36 pm ]
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I know they bought it, they added some slight "reverse-engineering" (read: M$-B******ized HTML) and put a piece of excrement in it. No one won Browser War I.

Author:  InterruptorJones [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:52 pm ]
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woddfellow2 wrote:
I know they bought it, they added some slight "reverse-engineering" (read: M$-B******ized HTML) and put a turd in it. No one won Browser War I.


You are a confused and angry little man. Take a deep breath and remember that nobody's forcing you to use or even look at IE.

Author:  ramrod [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:03 pm ]
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Yeah, don't trust IE, or anything else that has to do with Gates. But unfortunately he owns just about everything that has to do with computers.

Author:  InterruptorJones [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:03 pm ]
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ramrod wrote:
Yeah, don't trust IE, or anything else that has to do with Gates. But unfortunately he owns just about everything that has to do with computers.


You also are a confused person.

Author:  TheNintenGenius [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:34 pm ]
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Internet Explorer isn't nearly as bad as its reputation suggests, but it's still nowhere near as good as some of the other browsers out there (given that I'm using Opera to look at the forums and post).

But I should be ranting about a product here. Hmm. Let's see...

Faygo - Despite ICP's concerted attempt to completely destroy any like I might have for the brand, Faygo still has some really sweet varieties of pop (yes, I call it pop. Hooray for midwesternisms) they offer. If you've not had Faygo's Black Cherry, Red Pop, Rock 'n' Rye, or Orange-Pineapple, you're missing out. (and there's still other great Faygo flavors on top of that)

Jones - The OTHER great, non-mainstream brand of pop, even better than Faygo (though nowhere near as cheap, sadly). Let's face it, when you have pop flavors like Green Apple, Fufu Berry, Berry Lemonade, Strawberry-Lime, and the best grape soda ever (lovingly named MF Grape), you're bound to earn serious points from me. As an added bonus, Jones aren't afraid to experiment with new flavors, though some of their more offbeat flavors aren't really that good (such as Blue Bubblegum, Chocolate Fudge, and their infamous seasonal soda Turkey & Gravy). But still, kudos to you, Jones, for having great soda flavors, great photographic labels, and fortune cookie messages under the bottle lids.

Author:  racerx_is_alive [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:38 pm ]
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I think those are raves, not rants.

Rant: Raves that are supposed to be rants.

Author:  TheNintenGenius [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:43 pm ]
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It can go either way, really.

I don't have anything that's really irritated me as of late, so I figured I might as well go the other way.

Author:  fahooglewitz1077 [ Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:19 pm ]
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Shaon wrote:
Fruit Loops: when I was three, I ate these, and got blue direarea. My mom complained, and we got a coupon for a free box of them.

My guess is: Getting a free coupon didn't solve your problem.

Author:  woddfellow2 [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:49 am ]
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Blue diarreha? I've never heard of getting blue diarreha from eating Froot Loops.

Author:  No Loafing [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:37 am ]
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woddfellow2 wrote:
Blue diarreha? I've never heard of getting blue diarreha from eating Froot Loops.


AGREE'D!

Author:  notstrongorbad [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:32 am ]
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About NintenGenius' sodas: maybe it's a midwestern thing, but I haven't run across these sodas. But I SO hope you're pulling my leg about the turkey 'n' gravy one!! LOL!!! It sounds like something custom designed for the KOT! (Perhaps by his Poopsmith!)

InterruptorJones: Thanks for the lesson in browser history! I'm glad somebody knows this stuff, because I was out of the loop when it was going on and would have lacked the inclination to stay with the story even had I been aware. But the way you tell it makes history come alive! You make learning FUN!
I'm seriously thinking about trying this Flaming Fox... uh, Fox on Fire... whatever, this other browser thing.

And yeah, I can't think of a rant right now. I tend to get more enthusiastic about things that I like, maybe because I overreact from the shock of something living up to (or exceeding) it's hype. But I've already done that in another thread, and I agree that rants and raves should be kept separate. Except for rants about lightswitch raves.

Author:  Didymus [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:02 am ]
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Turkey and Gravy Soda? That reminded me of that movie, "I'm Gonna Get You Sucka!" where the guy offered Keenan Ivory Wayans a Bean Flavored Soda. What could possibly be worse? Butter-Da?

Author:  Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:26 pm ]
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one statement: I think Butter-Da if for cars and Turkey and gravy soada is for people

Author:  notstrongorbad [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:16 pm ]
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Turkey & Gravy soda ain't for THIS people, my friend! I like my turkey solid. And my gravy non-carbonated. (And for that matter, I can think of a lot of food products that would be better for cars than for people!)

Author:  TheNintenGenius [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 4:34 pm ]
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Turkey and Gravy soda is a seasonal variety of soda (as in, only around Thanksgiving) you can only order directly through Jones. They mainly only made the soda flavor to see if they could, I'm a-thinking, because from all I've heard, it's pretty terrible. It's supposed to taste like what would happen if you took turkey and gravy, liquified them in a blender, then let said blender sit out for about three days.

Funny how all the talk of the good flavors is overshadowed by that one. Oh well. Plus, I'm surprised nobody's asked me what a Fufu Berry is (hint: I don't know).

Author:  InterruptorJones [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:07 pm ]
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I love Jones Soda, but it's a little costly to be drinking it all the time. Unless you were to buy in bulk. Hmm. Note to self: Find out about buying Jones Soda in bulk.

Even Wikipedia doesn't know what a fufu berry is. But it does have this bit:

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Other unusual flavors have included Chocolate Fudge, released in honor of Valentine's Day; FuFu Berry; Pineapple Upside Down; Berry White (a pun on singer Barry White); Fu Cran Fu; Bada Bing!; and Purple Carrot. Jones also distributes their versions of more familiar soft drink flavors such as Vanilla Cola, Root Beer, Cream Soda and Fruit Punch.


Hmm, I'd like to try that Chocolate Fudge. BevNET has some reviews of the various Jones flavors.

..5 minutes later..

Looks like you can buy Jones Soda by the case (and you can mix-and-match flavors) from the Jones site, but at $19.95 plus 9 bucks shipping per case, and with only 12 bottles per case (it comes out to about $2.41 per bottle), that's more than a little steep.

Author:  racerx_is_alive [ Mon Oct 11, 2004 5:09 pm ]
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Last week at our neighborhood SuperTarget, I saw Jones sodas in cans for sale by the 12 pack. I've seen them in bottles for years now, but this was the first time I've ever seen them not in bottles.

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