AFAA: Anime Fans Against Americanization

Acekirby · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:02 pm

Do you love anime? Do you hate it when a good anime/manga is ruined by American consumers? One Piece is a perfectly good example of a good manga gone bad. People like Fox and WB ruin any good animes in the dreaded "Americanization" process. See this for some clarification on what they do. (Mild language warning on that)

Bottom Line: I hate Americanization; it ruins all good japaneese animation. Post here if you hate it as well.

No Toppings · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:06 pm

I hate it too, i mean c'mon they took all the blood outta One Piece!

Color Printer · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:08 pm

I'm not saying Pokemon is cool, but there were 3 episodes that were never released in the U.S.

Darn Americanization.

Acekirby · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:08 pm

Edit: This is a reply to NT.

That's part of the reason I hate it. People get all chopped up and crushed, but then they get up with only a black mark on their face! What's the deal with that?!

Black Metal · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:11 pm

They completely ruined Rave Master on the TV show. No blood, The alchohaulic drinks soda, and they just change a lot of stuff.

Acekirby · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:17 pm

That's the problem. They change too much. They worry too much about making it kid-friendly. Bah. That's why my savior is Adult Swim. They keep it the same. None o' that "no-blood" crap.

t0_t3h_m00n · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:02 pm

Ugh, sign me up. Can this be against Anime knockoffs, too? You know, those stupid American-made shows that like to pretend that they're anime...like Teen Titans and *gag* Totally Spies? *vomit*.

My response to AceKirby: I have kind of a love/hate relationsip with Adult Swim. Yes, they play un-Americanized animes, but they're also responsible for making things WAAAAY too commercial. Just look what they did to Inu-Yasha. And now I'm afraid Full Metal Alchemist is heading down the same path to the Dark Side and Hot Topic shelves...

I prefer my anime on DVDs: Unedited, Japanese, subtitled. Manga works too.

Shishu Hiwatari · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:44 pm

This is the third time I've been shown that XD

I was at this panel discussion yesterday about "Why anime is so cool?" and everyone was raving and such at the mere mention of 4Kids. UGH. Poor One Piece.

One girl: We heard rumors that Naruto's name is going to be Nathan....

t0_t3h_m00n wrote:

Ugh, sign me up. Can this be against Anime knockoffs, too? You know, those stupid American-made shows that like to pretend that they're anime...like Teen Titans and *gag* Totally Spies? *vomit*.

Wait....Xiaolin Showdown is okay? Right...? Right...? >_>;;

Neo · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:55 pm

And the teacher, whos name I cant spell, will be renamed Mr. Smith.

Lunar Jesty · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:09 pm

Color Printer wrote:

I'm not saying Pokemon is cool, but there were 3 episodes that were never released in the U.S.

One of them caused over 700 children to have seizures.

Color Printer · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:16 pm

Lunar Jesty wrote:

Color Printer wrote:

I'm not saying Pokemon is cool, but there were 3 episodes that were never released in the U.S.

One of them caused over 700 children to have seizures.

I know that. They could just edit the freakin' thing out...

Prof. Tor Coolguy · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 9:25 pm

Japaneese Name wrote:

One girl: We heard rumors that Naruto's name is going to be Nathan....

I didn't hear that but I did hear from Toonami that they would keep the names of the characters and moves the same (IE: they arn't going to change "Kage Bushin no Jitsu" to "Shadow Clone power" ) but they are going to edit out all the blood,swearing and sake.

1-UP · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:32 pm

I hate One Peice. That show stinks. I hate Rave Master. That show stinks. I hate Yu-Gi-Oh!, that show stinks the most.
Seriously, why cn't we North American's make up out own shows or Pete's sake!

Acekirby · **Posted:** Sun Jun 12, 2005 11:31 pm

t0_t3h_m00n wrote:

My response to AceKirby: I have kind of a love/hate relationsip with Adult Swim. Yes, they play un-Americanized animes, but they're also responsible for making things WAAAAY too commercial. Just look what they did to Inu-Yasha. And now I'm afraid Full Metal Alchemist is heading down the same path to the Dark Side and Hot Topic shelves...

Yes, yes. Anime should be pure and simple. Naruto's going to have this done to it. There is no worse thing to happen to an anime/manga then it being transformed into American stuff. I freakin' hate that cursed 4Kids thing. It ruins the greatest of them all.

t0_t3h_m00n wrote:

Can this be against Anime knockoffs, too? You know, those stupid American-made shows that like to pretend that they're anime...like Teen Titans and *gag* Totally Spies? *vomit*.

I couldn't agree more! Man, I hate those things!

Prof. Tor Coolguy · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:21 am

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145

T3h Funny, 4kids entertainment kills everything.

Warning: Strong launguage and gore

Einoo T. Spork · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:35 am

Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote:

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145

T3h Funny, 4kids entertainment kills everything.

Warning: Strong launguage and gore

Acekirby wrote:

See this for some clarification on what they do. (Mild language warning on that)

Try reading the whole thread, Prof. Tor Dumbguy.

Beyond the Grave · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 1:36 am

All the anime I buy, I watch it in the original Japanese with the subtitles, Hey I want to know what the heck they are saying.

Shishu Hiwatari · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:04 am

Lunar Jesty wrote:

Color Printer wrote:

I'm not saying Pokemon is cool, but there were 3 episodes that were never released in the U.S.

One of them caused over 700 children to have seizures.

I was going to say that. And it's actually 700+ people from the ages of 3-56

It's actually three other episodes that were never released; there was one for excessive gun use (safari zone episode; you wonder why we never see Ash catch the herd of Toros?) and another because of some like, naked scenes or something of which I have a clip of but can't describe it here (I think they actually released this as some kind of lost episode, but totally editted it). The third one was this Christmas special that wasn't even released in Japan because Pokemon was off air for some months after the Porygon episode catastrophe (the one that gave people seizures)
*is such an anime nerd* >_>

So anyway, what are we planning to do in this so-called group? I'd love to go and plan the assasination of Norman J. Grossfield (presdient of 4Kids)

Yeah, I'm joking....

Color Printer · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:07 am

The "naked" episode involved James wearing fake...yeah...uh-huh.

Creepy.

For information, go visit this site. (Warning: You may be creeped out. The images are freaky.)

Shishu Hiwatari · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 2:12 am

Color Printer wrote:

The "naked" episode involved James wearing

Yup yup. Showed it to all my friends and they all cracked up like there was no tomorrow.

Dark Grapefruit · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:23 am

Hey, 4Kids may make anime lame, but at least we get to see it. You guys probably wouldn't even know what anime was if it wasn't for crappy American dubs to introduce you to it. And let's face it, some anime is just bad, with or without crappy localization. *coughdbzcough*

Best horrible dub ever: that one episode of Yu-Gi-Oh where Yugi is going to get cut be blades and they changed it "dark energy disks".

Acekirby · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:36 am

Yeah, yeah. Or you could just read the manga, which almost always turns out better than the anime.

Anydangway · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:45 am

Color Printer wrote:

Lunar Jesty wrote:

Color Printer wrote:

I'm not saying Pokemon is cool, but there were 3 episodes that were never released in the U.S.

One of them caused over 700 children to have seizures.

I know that. They could just edit the freakin' thing out...

And what's not cool about giving the seizures?

Really I have no input here. I hate anime. But I just couldn't resist that.

Shishu Hiwatari · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 11:50 am

Dark Grapefruit wrote:

*coughdbzcough*

That's FUNimation! They sucks too, but not as badly.

But only cause they translated Fruits Basket almost perfectly and are releasing the uber uncut DVDs of DBZ right now. Talk about compensation.

Funi is also the one releasing the uncut Yu-Gi-Oh DVDs. Woojoo!

Dark Grapefruit · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:59 pm

I guess I'm just trying to say, I am for Americanization because it spreads anime to a wider audience. And badly dubbed anime is better than no anime.

Prof. Tor Coolguy · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:59 pm

[Einoo] wrote:

Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote:

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=145

T3h Funny, 4kids entertainment kills everything.

Warning: Strong launguage and gore

Acekirby wrote:

See this for some clarification on what they do. (Mild language warning on that)

Try reading the whole thread, Prof. Tor Dumbguy.

You're crusing for a brusing there Einoo, just because the rules tell me not to dosn't mean I can't flame with the best of them.

Acekirby · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 7:26 pm

Dark Grapefruit wrote:

And badly dubbed anime is better than no anime.

Argle! I'd rather have pure anime with subtitles than badly dubbed anime.

ModestlyHotGirl · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 8:42 pm

Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote:

You're crusing for a brusing there Einoo, just because the rules tell me not to dosn't mean I can't flame with the best of them.

What if I tell you not to? What does that mean?

Beyond the Grave · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:19 pm

ModestlyHotGirl wrote:

Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote:

You're crusing for a brusing there Einoo, just because the rules tell me not to dosn't mean I can't flame with the best of them.

What if I tell you not to? What does that mean?

It means you can get in trouble.

Shishu Hiwatari · **Posted:** Mon Jun 13, 2005 10:28 pm

Dark Grapefruit wrote:

I guess I'm just trying to say, I am for Americanization because it spreads anime to a wider audience. And badly dubbed anime is better than no anime.

Eh, true that. Never would have known about DBZ without seeing it on Toonami ^^;; Dubbed anime is good for people who don't want to get in trouble for downloading illegal stuff. Or have the money to buy DVDs.

But we just want more progress as far as getting the right shows being targeted to the right demographic in the U.S. As well as some loosening on those ole cenorship laws

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