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 Post subject: This little piggy glowed in the dark!
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I didn't notice any other topics made about this, so if there have been, I apologize and will commence self-discombobulation immediately.

Still--those're some awesome glowing pigs.

If they designed a way to genetically engineer humans (on already living humans, like through retroviral engineering or something) so that we had the same sort of bioluminescent capabilities, would you pay to get this done on you?

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If they designed a way to genetically engineer humans (on already living humans, like through retroviral engineering or something) so that we had the same sort of bioluminescent capabilities, would you pay to get this done on you?


No. The only application you could use that for is being the talk of the crowd at the next rave you go to, but otherwise I don;t think I could handle it all that well.

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If they designed a way to genetically engineer humans (on already living humans, like through retroviral engineering or something) so that we had the same sort of bioluminescent capabilities, would you pay to get this done on you?


I'd make a good nightlight, but otherwise, I'd rather not. =B

But those pigs are really cool. Never heard of anyone making glowing pigs before this.

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This isn't possible on humans. Pigs have the glowing gene just like fireflies do, they just need to be genetically engineered to 'turn it on'. Humans don't have the gene in the first place.
But there are other things humans can be genetically engineered to do. I dunno which ones I would like.

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It would be cool after a while, but I bet that would die quickly, the glowing would deffinetly get annoying after the first week.


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I don't think you should do this to animals. I mean, these are living beings. But 'normal' pigs are all killed after a few months, so you could think about it what is best...

I'm not surprised about glowing pigs, though. You can buy glowing fish as pets, and glowing mice and stuff already existed.

But um, why would it be cool to glow? I think it'd be terrible.

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I dunno. I think it'd be fun to glow in the dark! Wow, those little suckers really can glow, can't they?

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Oh, great! Green pigs. Is that where Green Ham comes from? Now all they need is green chickens to get some eggs from.

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But um, why would it be cool to glow? I think it'd be terrible.

For bar bets mostly, I might have a chance to get in ripley's believe it or not, or even better, get into the guinness book of world records.


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Huh...three green glowing pigs...probably living in a green glowing brick house. And the green glowing Big Bad Wolf huffed and puffed until his face glowed blue.

But toastpaint...glowing skin, no matter what animal it's on, seems to me to be little more than a somewhat novel cheap parlor trick. It's like a lava lamp or something--you get it because it looks cool, and after a short while, you stop paying attention to it or else start getting a bit annoyed with it.

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uh... was there any point for making them glow in the dark??? i find that interesting but i just wanna know why they would do that

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uh... was there any point for making them glow in the dark??? i find that interesting but i just wanna know why they would do that

Because science loves to do completely pointless things sometimes just to prove they can do it.

But those pigs are awesome. I want to take one home with me and watch him roam around my yard at night.

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green eggs and HAM. [/bad pun] why would they make pigs glow instead of doing something useful? like finding a cure for aids or cancer or something like that?

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green eggs and HAM. [/bad pun] why would they make pigs glow instead of doing something useful? like finding a cure for aids or cancer or something like that?

There are other people that do that kind of stuff, these people are in the field of stupid science.


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Those pigs are gonna give me nightmares.

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I wish I had a glowing pet pig.

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green eggs and HAM. [/bad pun] why would they make pigs glow instead of doing something useful? like finding a cure for aids or cancer or something like that?


We have them. THEY don't want you to know they exist though. It's the corporations. They sit in their corporation buildings while people die and they're all corporationy!

Seriously, though, these people stumbled on this while messing with some genetic stuff. That "genetic stuff", mainly gene therapy and such, will probably be the key to stopping cancer and/or AIDS, I think.

I admit, though, I don't know much about genetics. I study hurricanes. All I know is that hurricanes are huge and easy to see, genes are too small to see, and somehow, we can manipulate genes, but not hurricanes.

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green eggs and HAM. [/bad pun] why would they make pigs glow instead of doing something useful? like finding a cure for aids or cancer or something like that?

There are other people that do that kind of stuff, these people are in the field of stupid science.


Ah, yes, retarded science. This definitely seems like something Joel would do.

Seriously, though, I have no idea why the crap anyone would decide to create glowing piggies. And I know I wouldn't want to glow...

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i wonder what the next completely pointless invention will be...

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Ah, yes, retarded science. This definitely seems like something Joel would do.


Errr ... Actually guys, there is a perfectly good reason to research bioluminescence and transferring that ability to other animals.

Let's put it this way--suppose we could get certain plants to do this--trees, even. Like in FF7:AC, the Ancient Capital, how that forest was all glowyawesome. Suppose we could figure out how to transfer bioluminescence to trees, so that they'd glow brightly on their own, enough to see by.

If you line highways with trees capable of producing light like that, that would save on energy costs for highway lighting. Since it's all-natural, not to mention enviromentally friendly. I mean, I don't have to tell you how beneficial trees are to the environment in the first place--but giving them the ability to give off light for our own purposes would be of great use. Wouldn't have to do anything except keep the trees watered, and they'd naturally give off light during the evening hours. And trees last a very long time! Given their low maitenence costs compared to current lighting methods, you could afford to plant glowy trees on even less traveled back country roads. It's a serious win for everybody.

Heck, you could do this in cities too, and cut down on the strain to the power grid even further.

Bioluminescence genetics in general is a sort of holy grail when it comes to finding ways to generate light without using up unrenewable energy. Since bioluminesence often generates little heat, it's also energy efficient compared to regular lightbulbs, which waste a lot of the energy they give off on heat instead of light.

Consider the effects of burning oil and coal right now, and everything it affects as far as the environment goes. Eating the ozone layer, allowing the sun to cancernate us all, faster than before. Global warming, too. And we don't just use oil for energy, we use it for making plastics and other chemicals we use in everday life--so we're really hooked on that black milk. We need alternatives to get off it, or at least diversify our usage enough.

Nuclear fission--while a much better alternative to fossil fuels in my opinion, it still has its drawbacks in the form of radioactive toxic waste that can't be processed. All you can do is seal it up and stuff it under the ground ... and what if the junk leaks?

Fusion energy--while that is probably the best option in the long run--produces very little waste, and would be ideal to supply all our energy needs--we're only getting close to attaining a self sustaining reaction, but we're still not there yet (recent fusion reactor tests have gotten it up to 75% self-sustaining), and might not be there for a while. Getting energy out of such a reaction is even farther down the road. They've been working on that problem for a long time, decades even.

Solar power--I strongly support NASA's idea for a solar power farm on the moon microwaving energy to the Earth (no weather to get in the way!), but who knows if that'll go through. Solar panels here on Earth are great for supplementary energy and greater independence off the grid, but it's highly dependent on the weather. Only a few places I can think of can reiably be converted to solar power farms.

Wind and hydroeletric energy is very minute as far as providing the needs for civilization, and only works in certain areas, so it's best as a supplement.

Anyway, point is, the more ways we can come up with to cut down on energy costs, the better it is for us, and for the planet. No stinky fossil fuels killing the ozone layer and the sun's rays giving us cancer in the first place! Glowing pigs may seem useless and stupid to waste scientific grants and research time on, but the concept and technology has many uses. Many, many uses, which would cut down the strain on energy resources as humanity gets ever more populous.

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