emulator

Beyond the Grave · **Posted:** Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:45 am

InterruptorJones wrote:

Oh, and I-N-T-E-R-R-U-P-T-O-R. :poop:

Yeah just like it's B-T-G. Isn't that right Jones?

Toastpaint

extremejon09 · **Joined:** Mon May 10, 2004 10:28 pm **Posts:** 4675

Question about emulators:

People always say "It's only Illegal to use an Emulator if you don't own the game."

Well say, would be illegal if I bought a PS game with my own money and played it on an Emulator?

Simon Zeno · **Posted:** Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:53 am

extremejon09 wrote:

Question about emulators:

People always say "It's only Illegal to use an Emulator if you don't own the game."

Well say, would be illegal if I bought a PS game with my own money and played it on an Emulator?

I don't think it's legal per se, but I can almost guarantee you that unless you post on every government website "Look what I'm doing, this is where I live: " then it doesn't really matter whether or not it's legal. Of course, then you may as well just download the game, too.

Not that I endorse, support, or am in any way liable for someone doing any of that. It's illegal, and laws are meant to be followed. :mrgreen:

DESTROY US ALL! · **Posted:** Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:54 am

Yeah EDIT: it would be legal if you own the game. It's just backing up your software.
It's legal to download roms you do not own if you delete the files within 24 hours.

I think I have over 30 SNES roms, about 12 NES roms and under 10 PS1, N64, and Dreamcast roms.
About 5 of them are legal.

Einoo T. Spork · **Posted:** Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:54 am

DESTROY US ALL! wrote:

Yeah it would be legal.
It's legalto download them if you delete the files within 24 hours.

Actually, that's not true. It's still illegal.

And even if you own a game, downloading a ROM for it is still illegal.

Not like I ever cared.

Simon Zeno · **Posted:** Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:58 am

You're allowed to have one back-up copy of any (read: most, some things you can't) software that you own, however, you have to actually make the copy from your own piece of software, not download it.

extremejon09 · **Joined:** Mon May 10, 2004 10:28 pm **Posts:** 4675

DESTROY US ALL! wrote:

Yeah EDIT: it would be legal if you own the game. It's just backing up your software.
It's legal to download roms you do not own if you delete the files within 24 hours.

I think I have over 30 SNES roms, about 12 NES roms and under 10 PS1, N64, and Dreamcast roms.
About 5 of them are legal.

Erm, Yeah. I'm buying the game cause all PS roms (or, ISOs) are really, really large. At least for a dial-upper. And apprently the PS emulator I'm useing can work if you insert a PS disk into your drive...

So yeah.

DESTROY US ALL! · **Posted:** Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:03 am

Ahh, I see now Jon. I think that would of been very illegal 7 years ago, but now that the PS1 is no longer made, I'm sure you'd be able to do that.

What PS1 emu are you using? Mine is ePSXe and if it has that play through drive function you ogt to tell me where that is. My old Jumbo PS is gonna die any day now.

Simon Zeno · **Posted:** Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:05 am

DESTROY US ALL! wrote:

Ahh, I see now Jon. I think that would of been very illegal 7 years ago, but now that the PS1 is no longer made, I'm sure you'd be able to do that.

What PS1 emu are you using? Mine is ePSXe and if it has that play through drive function you ogt to tell me where that is. My old Jumbo PS is gonna die any day now.

I think you just go to File > Run CD-ROM.

Err... at least, that's what I imagine one would do if one were so inclined to run a PSX game on their computer.

extremejon09 · **Joined:** Mon May 10, 2004 10:28 pm **Posts:** 4675

DESTROY US ALL! wrote:

Ahh, I see now Jon. I think that would of been very illegal 7 years ago, but now that the PS1 is no longer made, I'm sure you'd be able to do that.

What PS1 emu are you using? Mine is ePSXe and if it has that play through drive function you ogt to tell me where that is. My old Jumbo PS is gonna die any day now.

Er, Same here. I haven' gotten to try it out yet. But I kinda assume I can according This guys guide

ready for prime time · **Posted:** Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:43 am

Jello B. wrote:

It's because Windows XP doesn't use DOS. It uses its own thing that's like DOS, but even suckier. Most DOS programs don't work with it. Get Windows 3.1

or, a DOS emulator.
yeah, they do exist.

damik · **Joined:** Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:24 pm **Posts:** 580

Yeah, most of this thread discusses one of them, "ready for prime time".

Also, regarding PSX emulators: buying the game and playing it on an emulator is only legal if you already own a PSX console, as the emulator will require you to locate a bios image (the software that is pre-installed on a PSX) and technically the only way to get one of these legally is to dump it yourself from your own PSX. However, in practice this is much more effort than most people will have the patience for, and most people will just download one from the internet. I run all my PSX games on my PC now, it's much more convenient and a lot of the time the graphics can be improved...

just a username · **Posted:** Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:21 pm

I think that emulation of old games should not be illegal as the makers no longer profit from them unless they make a remake (and I usually don't like remakes), however if the game is new than I think it is just wrong.

ready for prime time · **Posted:** Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:27 pm

too right.
that's why i had that atari 2600 emulator for a while.

furrykef · **Posted:** Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:22 pm

I know this is an old thread, but for the record:

The "one backup" rule cited a few posts above does not apply to ROMs. In other words, you are not entitled to have a "backup copy" of a game. Therefore, downloading a ROM is still illegal even if you have the game.

Also, to answer a question earlier in the thread, it wouldn't be legal to emulate PlayStation games if you don't actually own a PlayStation, even if you do own the game and use that copy with the emulator. The reason is that a PlayStation emulator is going to require a ROM of the PlayStation BIOS (a chip inside the PlayStation itself), and that ROM is protected by copyright law. If you were to somehow get a legal copy of this ROM, then emulating the game would not be illegal (it's not the use of an emulator that's illegal, it's copyright infringement).

- Kef

strongfan · **Posted:** Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:29 pm

furrykef wrote:

I know this is an old thread, but for the record:

The "one backup" rule cited a few posts above does not apply to ROMs. In other words, you are not entitled to have a "backup copy" of a game. Therefore, downloading a ROM is still illegal even if you have the game.

Also, to answer a question earlier in the thread, it wouldn't be legal to emulate PlayStation games if you don't actually own a PlayStation, even if you do own the game and use that copy with the emulator. The reason is that a PlayStation emulator is going to require a ROM of the PlayStation BIOS (a chip inside the PlayStation itself), and that ROM is protected by copyright law. If you were to somehow get a legal copy of this ROM, then emulating the game would not be illegal (it's not the use of an emulator that's illegal, it's copyright infringement).

- Kef

I was talking about Compy 386 emulator from hrwiki fanstuff.

fahooglewitz1077 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:49 pm

So, what happened to C3E? Has development stopped? What's going on?

Jello B. · **Posted:** Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:11 pm

Well, I haven't talked to Snowthrower in a really long time. I'd say it's just on a really long hiatus. Maybe I can update it, though. I still have the source code.

furrykef · **Posted:** Sun Aug 20, 2006 11:34 pm

strongfan wrote:

I was talking about Compy 386 emulator from hrwiki fanstuff.

And I was talking about the replies to the thread which were not about the Compy 386 emulator.

fahooglewitz1077 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:50 pm

Jello B. wrote:

Well, I haven't talked to Snowthrower in a really long time. I'd say it's just on a really long hiatus. Maybe I can update it, though. I still have the source code.

That'd be nice. It doesn't seem to load at a resolution supported by my LCD.
I assume it's fullscreen 640 X 480. Is that right?

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