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This has nothing to do with Clan's Apsberger's syndrome, but do you guys think that they just give anything a name nowadays? Recently I saw a commercial for a disease called "restless leg syndrome." WTC? That must be just some doctor who needs some money(oxy-moron). Most of the people probably have ADD and can't sit still. What are your thoughts?

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Just because you don't understand a condition, or just because a lot of people have hypochondriac tendencies and make foolish self-diagnoses based on information they get from TV commercials, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. Don't be a jerk.

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I'm not trying to be jerky. I just didn't understand how it worked. I guess I should have looked it up. Sorry Jones, or anyone else who was offended.

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I'm not always so certain about Syndromes and whatnot being too contrived...but I DO think that some people are just too reliant on popping pills to solve their problems.

I mean, I totally understand people who have real problems and need medication for it--such as my mother, who has hypothyroidism and needs to take a pill every morning or else she will feel completely drained of energy by midday. I'm not talking about these instances.

I'm talking about people who take some sort of anti-depressant or something when what they really need to do is evaluate their life, what's truly wrong with the picture, and fix the real problem instead of just treating the symptom. And I feel that there's too much of this sort of misconception on people's lives that goes on--they feel sad and down and think that a pill will make it all better, when they really need to look at what needs fixing in their lives.

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I kinda have that where i move my leg a lot while in class and can't get up, but if I don't it doesnt hurt it's just weird feeling. usually after gym class

This is something we touched on in the "Suicide" thread too. I've definately have always thought that there's a lot of over-medication going on - in particular when it comes to mental conditions. The reason why this is happening is because it saves time for doctors, so they don't have to give you proper treatment. Disgusting, really.

Take ADD - bad diet and various problems in upbringing are the main culprits for this, and pills aren't going to fix this. But it's just easier to turn kids into chemmed-up zombies. Too bad.

When it comes to disorders, I'm somewhere between "every bad thing a person does is not their fault" and Tom Cruise.

I mean, there are legitimate problems out there (like OCD), then there are things that I feel are purely made up because someone doesn't want to take responsibility for their actions.

I really think that a majority of "disorders" are made up. This sickens me, too, because those kind of marginalize the real problems that people have.

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yeah, all theese dissorders and syndromes are fake! noone really has them, i mean how much more fake can a syndrome get? like Down Syndrome.

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Heh.

It seems like a lot of people here suffer from "pretend doctor syndrome," in which the sufferer acts like he or she knows a lot more about medicine or psychiatry than they actually do.

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yeah, like Scientologists.

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WOAH settle down I think you suffer fasobia or the fear/hatred of fake syndromes that are just minor problems.

I gotta give 3 props to clan whatever those 4 letters are for being the most cyber-eccentric/entertaining person on the net
TOO CLAN

I was totally about to post a link to that Wikipedia article.

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heh, eMeters, Thetan levels, Xenu....

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This is possibly the most moronic selection of disorders I've ever seen. What's next? "Overwaterdrinking syndrome?"

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That's kind of the point I was making.
I know people with OCD. That's horrible. It's almost a slap in the face to them (and it makes their problem seem more artificial) when every person that has a problem "suffers" from some "disorder".

I mean, it's like nothing is anyone's fault anymore.

If you slept through class, goofed off and didn't study, you're not stupid, you have a learning disorder. You know what? I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was a kid. My parents didn't dope me up, though. They chose to take a genuine interest in my schoolwork. I had to study more than other kids, but I turned out just fine.

If you're a jerk to everyone, it's not because you're a jerk, it's because you have "politeness deficit disorder".

I don't have any research to back this up, but I'm taking a rough guess and saying about half of the "disorders" out there are nothing more than lazy, rude, stupid, or hate-filled people trying to pass the buck instead of taking responsibility for improving their station in life. That's really sad, too, because it maginalizes people who have REAL problems, making it harder for them to get the help they need.

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(I also like this post)

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My problem with statements like this is that it creates the impression that anybody who does turn to medication to help improve their lives is lazy or taking the easy way out. I'm glad that your parents tried something other than medication (I don't think medication should be the first step unless there's immediate risk of serious self-harm) and I'm very glad that it worked, but even if you didn't intend it the underlying generalization is that anybody who says they need medication to lead a normal life just isn't trying hard enough, which just isn't true.



Though the last two sentences are a good sentiment, that post ("Aspbergers doesn't mean anything. It's just something they gave a name.") and the ones like it make me very, very angry and are an example of the Pretend Doctor Syndrome that I described above. Ju Ju Master doesn't know anything about Asperger's and yet feels qualified to make broad (and offensive) generalizations about it without doing a nit of research. What are you going to tell us next, Ju Ju Master? That autism "doesn't mean anything?" Maybe Down syndrome is just "something they gave a name." Asperger syndrome is a real, psychologically quantifiable disorder, and it does have an impact on some people's ability to lead a happy life, and I believe those people deserve to be taken seriously.

I'm not saying that there isn't a lot of misdiagnosis and overmedication going on in this country. There is. A lot. But just because a lot of people who maybe do just need to cheer up or get more exercise or meditate or whatever are misdiagnosed with a disorder doesn't mean that the disorder doesn't exist and isn't very real and very, very detrimental to some people's lives, and it doesn't mean that turning to medication when you've tried every other treatment is somehow a cop-out.

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Yes, there are parts of that post I don't agree with either; I should have clarified that. But the overall message that I get is that people will overprescribe and overdiagnose behavior as syndromes and problems.

Although maybe I compltetely missed the point. I thought it was like Raddy's post up there. If it's not at all, please tell me.

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I should clarify that I mostly agree with this part of StrongRad's post (although the wording is a little fuzzy--I would replace '"disorders"' with '"disorder sufferers"'), and overall I think we're on the same page:

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Very true. If you have a major disorder like um...down syndrome, it is not something to be taken lightly. What makes me mad is these so-called "diseases" that are actually just failure to fix the actual problem.

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I'd like to hear an example of a "so-called disease" that you don't believe is an actual condition and is instead a "failure to fix the actual problem," and why you believe that to be true (citations would be welcome).

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I think there are some regular human behaviors that some doctors and phyciotrists try to pass of as true mental disorders, besides those, I think most of them are legitimate.

That wasn't what I was going for. I actually intended that to be read as "I just might have been misdiagnosed" (I really feel like a lot of people are misdiagnosed with ADD).
That's my problem with ADD. I mean, there are people that probably have it, BUT, a lot of the kids I knew growing up that were diagnosed with it were kids whose parents imparted NO discipline (usually not even telling them they were doing anything wrong!) upon them. How can they expect a kid to act "correctly" if that kid is never taught proper behavior? In my experience (which I admit is a bit limited), a lot of parents would rather medicate than parent.
Of course, in no way do I intend this statement to apply to more than the small subset of ADD diagnosed that I know.

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I agree pretty well with Strong Rad's view. Some people are too willing to pin their problems on something else that's easier to cope with. I'm not saying all people, just some.

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I think it's just taking generally negative personality traits and giving them a name, that is eventually used as an excuse

but not always cuz I saw this guy with ADD/ADHD(don't know the difference)that had a good controlling mother that was out of control, so it really depends on the severity

I wouldn't really even care if people did that, except that it marginalizes people who have disorders and really need help.

My beef with ADD stems from a certain kid I went to school with. He would do horrible things, and whenever I would stop him, I would be the one to get in trouble, because "he doesn't know what he's doing, he has ADD" (like one day, he set my hair on fire. He was trying to set more on fire and I stopped him, courtesy of an encyclopedia index to the head. I ALMOST got suspened, he got detention. This was one of the worst things he did, but there are PLENTY more)
So yea, I'll admit, I am a little prejudiced.

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