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Author:  El Santo [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:27 am ]
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ChickenLeg wrote:
I also watched Colbert Report too. It was hilarious.

Anyway, I heard about these three planets, but I didn't realize that Ceres was in the asteroid belt. That was kind of a shocker. I thought it was meaning the Kuiper (or summat) Belt. I really would enjoy Mars, Ceres, Jupiter. Ancient gods rock. But wouldn't Ceres be destroyed if it collided with another asteroid? :-|


Next week:

ASTRONOMER: We would like to announce that we now have 12...

*Ceres explodes*

ASTRONOMER: ... 11 Planets....


On a serious note, I think the asteroid field is far less dense than it is portrayed in the movies. I suspect that if you were on Ceres, you wouldn't see any asteroids in the sky at all.

Author:  StrongRad [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:32 am ]
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El Santo wrote:
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On a serious note, I think the asteroid field is far less dense than it is portrayed in the movies. I suspect that if you were on Ceres, you wouldn't see any asteroids in the sky at all.

You would be correct!

The asteroid belt is pretty sparse. Actually, it's not so much a "place where there are a lot of asteroids" as it is "a place where you're more likely to find asteroids than other place in the solar system."

Author:  Bulldozer [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 3:44 am ]
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Hmm... There's something wrong when my first thought on hearing about the Plutons idea is "Man, this is totally going to screw with the credibility of Star Wars novels..."

Seriously, though, this is pretty cool. I like to write science fiction, and even the thought of two planets orbiting each other - whether it's approved or not in this case - gives me tons of new ideas. Not to mention that it's just cool to be alive for this kind of major thing.

Author:  ramrod [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:40 am ]
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StrongRad wrote:
You would be correct!

The asteroid belt is pretty sparse. Actually, it's not so much a "place where there are a lot of asteroids" as it is "a place where you're more likely to find asteroids than other place in the solar system."
Whoa, Rad is space smart. Maybe he's like, an astronaut or something?

:p

Author:  Jitka [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:35 am ]
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I say the more planets the better. They need to name 2003 UB313 "Persephone," though. Definitely. It'd be perfect.

I don't know what they'd call its moon, though. They should call it "Pomegranate" or something.

Author:  StrongRad [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:44 am ]
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ramrod wrote:
StrongRad wrote:
You would be correct!

The asteroid belt is pretty sparse. Actually, it's not so much a "place where there are a lot of asteroids" as it is "a place where you're more likely to find asteroids than other place in the solar system."
Whoa, Rad is space smart. Maybe he's like, an astronaut or something?

:p


No, I just work around them...
Well, ok, so I actually work around people who make it possible for the missilemen to do their jobs. :)

Author:  Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 5:53 am ]
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StrongRad wrote:
ramrod wrote:
StrongRad wrote:
You would be correct!

The asteroid belt is pretty sparse. Actually, it's not so much a "place where there are a lot of asteroids" as it is "a place where you're more likely to find asteroids than other place in the solar system."
Whoa, Rad is space smart. Maybe he's like, an astronaut or something?

:p


No, I just work around them...
Well, ok, so I actually work around people who make it possible for the missilemen to do their jobs. :)


I'm sorry, after this we're going to need to paint some serious toast but I gotta know something.

StrongRad: Are you a rocket scientist? If not, what the heck are you?

Author:  StrongRad [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:01 am ]
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Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote:
StrongRad: Are you a rocket scientist? If not, what the heck are you?

Well, til next Tuesday, I'm a hurricane researcher and graduate student at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. My work was funded by NASA, though, since it used satellite data as an input into an intensity forecast model I run. I work in a building that's owned by UAH, NASA, National Weather Service, and a couple other organizations.
Even though I'm not in the space program, I work around a lot of people who are.

But now, Image

Author:  Alexander [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:14 am ]
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I would like to call 2003 UB313 "Emily."

Just because. ^-^

Author:  The Chessman [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 1:45 pm ]
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Then again, maybe our government will pull a Hungarian bridge on us and let us vote on 2003 UB313's name. We could call it "Stephen Colbert"!

Author:  El Santo [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 6:21 pm ]
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JohnTheTinyCowboy wrote:
I say the more planets the better. They need to name 2003 UB313 "Persephone," though. Definitely. It'd be perfect.


"Persephone" was a popular name among the astronomer community for 2003 UB313.

One tiny problem: they already gave the name a long time ago to some boring old asteroid.

Bah!

Author:  GoldenSun [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:26 pm ]
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Santa Zeno wrote:
I read about this somewheres. It's pretty nifty, to be around when something like this happens.

If I remember correctly, Ceres was actually classified as a planet in the 19th century, but I guess they changed their minds...

I don't really understand why they're making Charon a planet.


The center of mass is between the two planets, not on either one of them. Also they discovered 2 moons of Pluto/Charon

Author:  Chekt [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:41 pm ]
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They should just vote off Pluto, that is the simplest solution.

Author:  JTHomeslice [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:53 pm ]
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the_chekt wrote:
They should just vote off Pluto, that is the simplest solution.

Jeff Probst:Pluto, you have been voted off the solar system.

Author:  ramrod [ Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:38 pm ]
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JTHomeslice wrote:
the_chekt wrote:
They should just vote off Pluto, that is the simplest solution.

Jeff Probst:Pluto, you have been voted off the solar system.
As soon as I read Chekt's post, I knew it was either going to be a Survivor reference, or a Weakest Link one...



I was hoping for Weakest Link personally.

Author:  El Santo [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Pluto --- not a planet!

Looks like after all that big astronomer talk, the planet formerly known as Pluto will have its status pulled after all:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/08/24/pluto.ap/index.html

Looks like we're back down to 8 planets now. Goodbye, Pluto: it was fun while it lasted.

Author:  Didymus [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:58 pm ]
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Actually, shouldn't that be, "the Pluto formerly known as a planet"?

Author:  PianoManGidley [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:01 pm ]
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Dang...guess the God of the Underworld just can never get a good enough reputation to play with the rest of the big boys.

Author:  Ju Ju Master [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:11 pm ]
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PianoManGidley wrote:
Dang...guess the God of the Underworld just can never get a good enough reputation to play with the rest of the big boys.


Yeah, this is just gonna anger him. Though it's interesting that the planet named after him is the one that's causing so much trouble... ;)

That's too bad. Having eight planets isn't as cool as having nine, and defenitely not as cool as havign twelve. And didn't they say Chron and Pluto orbited around each other? WHy have they taken it out of consideration for a dwarf planet?

I'm interested to see how this develops, though, and find out more about those dwarf planets.

I'm still curious about Sedna though... it had an odd orbit, but wasn't it similar to a planet?

Author:  ramrod [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:20 pm ]
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But what will this do to all the young school children that need to learn the solar system? My Very Egotistical Mother Just Served Us Nine....Nine what? What madness it will cause!!

Author:  PianoManGidley [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:37 pm ]
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ramrod wrote:
But what will this do to all the young school children that need to learn the solar system? My Very Egotistical Mother Just Served Us Nine....Nine what? What madness it will cause!!


Easy...just change "Nine" to "None" or "Nothing."

Author:  The Noid [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:39 pm ]
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Or Nachos. :p

Author:  Teh Ch8t [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:44 pm ]
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I think this is awesome, now we can tell our kids if we have them, "I was alive when PLUTO was considered a major planet!"

Author:  StrongRad [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:50 pm ]
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PianoManGidley wrote:
ramrod wrote:
But what will this do to all the young school children that need to learn the solar system? My Very Egotistical Mother Just Served Us Nine....Nine what? What madness it will cause!!


Easy...just change "Nine" to "None" or "Nothing."

I never used that one. So MEH!!

Mary's violet eyes made Jon stay up nights (period)

I'm-a merge this with the other thread.

MERGE'D and name changed!

Author:  El Santo [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:51 pm ]
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Ju Ju Master wrote:
That's too bad. Having eight planets isn't as cool as having nine, and defenitely not as cool as havign twelve. And didn't they say Chron and Pluto orbited around each other? WHy have they taken it out of consideration for a dwarf planet?


Well, you see how much respect they give the god of the underworld. How much respect do you think they're going to give a mere boatman? ;)

Anyway, I'm actually in favor of Charon being upgraded to "dwarf planet." C'mon, astronomers: if you're gonna downgrade Pluto, at least give us a cool binary dwarf planet system.

Author:  Artvandelay [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 4:30 pm ]
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The Noid wrote:
Or Nachos. :p


Myself wrote:
Well, if Pluto gets dumped, just change "nine pizzas" to "nachos."


That's two votes! See, Pluto's not a planet anymore and everything turned out juuust fine.[/quote]

Author:  Ju Ju Master [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 5:23 pm ]
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Artvandelay wrote:
The Noid wrote:
Or Nachos. :p


Myself wrote:
Well, if Pluto gets dumped, just change "nine pizzas" to "nachos."


That's two votes! See, Pluto's not a planet anymore and everything turned out juuust fine.
[/quote]

I was thinking nachos when I first saw the title (before it was merged), too.

Author:  The Snork [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 6:32 pm ]
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Hmm. Well, I don't really care what the definition of a planet is, long as the word "planet" finally has a standard definition. Personally, I was in favor of the "3 new ones" definition, but all is well anyway. Now to one-up StrongRad.

...

Um.. somebody give me a well-known myth to contest.

Author:  Tompkins [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:40 pm ]
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http://rippluto.ytmnd.com/

:((

Author:  Chekt [ Thu Aug 24, 2006 9:46 pm ]
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StrongRad wrote:
The asteroid belt is pretty sparse. Actually, it's not so much a "place where there are a lot of asteroids" as it is "a place where you're more likely to find asteroids than other place in the solar system."

...that is almost exactaly how my astronomy teacher explained it...I am so scared.

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