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That could possibly be attributed to the amount of the drug that is in the user's system while taking the test.

I'm also not willing to draw particularly strong conclusions from these results without knowing something about the probabilities involved. How likely are these results to be pure chance?

- Kef

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I'm drawing from speculation about the brain cells thing.

The only loss of intelligence was in chronic users. If you do anything too much, there will be horrible side effects. Masturbation/Typing/Video Games/Writing/Etc: carpal tunnel. Eating: obesity/heart failure/fun stuff like that. But if you do all of those things in moderation (and if you smoke pot in moderation) you have no problem, right? Right.

On top of that all, no matter how bad or how good it is for you, the government should not be telling you what you can or cannot do to your body. I can drink bleach, but I can't smoke pot. I can shoot myself in the head, but I can't smoke pot. I can torture myself to no end, but I can't smoke pot.

But does shooting yourself effect another person directly? Does drinking bleach directly effect someone? No. Weed does. I have seen friends who smoke weed and then go off driving. One of them was in an accident while under the influence. Luckily neither he nor was anyone else hurt.

Bleach's primary use is to clean clothes, not to drink. Weed's primary use is to smoke and get high. People don't smoke to become smarter, because that's a farce. If that's true, then why are my pot-head buddies all dropping out of College? Are they too smart for it because of weed?

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Oh, and incidentally, suicide is actually illegal in most states. True, if you actually succeed, there's not much way they can punish you for it, but in cases where suicide is being attempted, law enforcement agencies are obligated to stop you. So, no, you're not allowed to shoot yourself in the head or drink a gallon of Clorox.

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I'd argue that as long as a person is loved by someone else, that person causing purposeful bodily injury to his or herself harms others emotionally if not psychologically and monetarily (funerals and medical bills cost a lot).

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I was talking of more of a direct reaction. What you said were more after effects of the actions, while driving under the influence and then hitting someone is a direct action.

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Nobody said you had to drive while under the influence...

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True, but marijuana definitely doesn't make you think clearly. If you have something on your mind like, "Hey, let's go to the store!", then you're not really going to stop and think "Well, I just smoked, so it won't be that safe..."

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You'd be surprised how cautious some people can be. Maybe you haven't seen it during your experiences, but most people I know who smoke pot will not drive while they're high. Unless they're regularly kind of dumb ("I'm so bad I'm going to _____"), then things that would normally raise flags still do. What I've observed changing is smaller things (a phone SFX in a song might be percieved as the hpone actually ringing).

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Well then, as long as we're talking about that, pot does affect brain cells. It doesn't kill them, but it can change and rearrange them.

Sure, but carpal tunnel is not permanent (and if it takes more than a few months to heal, surgery can fix it), and food is natural to the body and even required. Those don't really compare to pot. Also, smoking marijuana is still smoking, so you still get all the really fun affects from the smoke.
Also, I don't really buy the thing about how marijuana is not addictive... 'Mental dependency'? 'You feel as if you can't have fun with out pot'?

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It's completely addictive. Not like cigarettes, but there definitely is an addiction.

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If we apply that standard to marijuana, we MUST apply that standard to alcohol. But I doubt a new age of Prohibition would be accepted by anyone. Driving while intoxicated is the crime that should be enforced. Any intoxicating agent. Alcohol, marijuana, other drugs. Don't punish the people who can handle it responsibly.

To ban substances because people might drive while using it is like banning Clorox because some people might drink it when they get depressed and suicidal.

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Got's me a new view:

Simply put, America does not want another evil empire as a huge economic source.

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So the evil empires we already have are ok?

Lesson learned: Exploiting people's vices is ok as long as the government is getting a well-established piece of the action.

It would make much more sense to ban everything than to have this type of hypocracy. I also don't think I am going to base my views on what "America does not want." Especially since "America" doesn't seem to agree on much of anything at all.

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We've already established that it binds with the CB1 receptors in your brain.



Biking can be dangerous. If you don't take precautions (like you'd do with pot), and you do something dumb you can easily kill yourself.



I haven't smoked pot in almost two weeks and I feel fine. I feel like I always do. I definitely don't feel like I need to go smoke up now or I should probably smoke up soon. The only time I think about pot is if someone brings it up and talks about it.

But how much do you usually smoke? It's much easier to quit when you don't do a lot of it anyways.

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Not a lot. You can become psychologically dependent on marijuana, but that's if you abuse it.

It's an addction the same way Runescape can be addicting. Your body doesn't react to not having it, you just want to have it (want not need).



I suppose if you ignore averything that's added to cigarettes, I won't stretch the page with the list, then ya, this is a fair comparison (I assume that was the comparison).



You don't have to believe the worlds round, but it doesn't make it less truthful. Marijuana is in no way physically addictive, there is no addictive substance in it.

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And there's always vaporizing it or cooking it into food if you're worried about the smoke.

I vaporized some today Wasn't much, just a little.

Speaking of, it is much safer to vaporize for a number of reasons:
1. THC and just THC. It basically boils it out of the leafs leaving all the bad junk behind, as well as any other drug that might have been put in it.

2. Since its direct THC, you get high with only a small amount. Burning it only gets a little bit to you, and it also takes whatever someone sprinkled into it and gets it to you.

3. Doesnt make smoke. Yeah, the only smoke it makes is the smoke from the lighter, what you breath in is basically just a vapour(duh).

4. Since you only need a little bit of weed to get high, you can buy $10 worth and use it for a month, depending on how often you use it.

Anyway, sure, you can get addicted to it mentally, but your body doesn't really need it. Plus, since vaporizing gives you just the THC, anything that does have a physical dependency that the dealer put in it would be left behind.

On a final note, as it has been stated many times in here, smoking weed is like drinking, except when you lose your buzz, you don't puke everywhere.

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My mother has an allergic reaction to THC that makes her throw up, and it's possible that this allergy was passed on to me, so I could end up puking everywhere before I lose my buzz.

- Kef

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Okay, so so how is 'mental dependency' different and/or better than addiction?

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None. Addiction is in the mind just as mental dependency is. The fact is addiction is a reaction in the brain that people cannot help which would be a synonym for mental dependency.

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Physical: Your body comes to terms with the drug being there and assumes you need it to function. Heroin is physically addictive, so if you try to quit you'll have the worst time of your life.

Mental: It's like being addicted to Mario, you feel like you need to play it, but you won't be in pain if you decide to quit playing it.



For me it's a really good night's sleep and cotton mouth.

Here's an idea: Legalize it, but then tax and regulate the crap out of it. Then the taxes generated will go to get people off the stuff, along with other drugs.

Eh?

Okay, that doesn't mean it's not an addiction, because psychological addiction is still an addiction.Possibly. I'd just be afraid that it'd be too easy for people to get around the taxes. How can you tell if someone is smoking pot that was bought legally or not?

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So... should we ban Mario? Should we ban the internets? (oh please yes)


Sure there'll be people. People make homebrewed alcohol, too. That's not always legal, but it happens. More likely, though, because it'd be easier just to buy it than wait for it to grow, people would mostly just buy it.

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Okay, those aren't even physically harmful; I don't see how they come near to comparing with marijuana.

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We were talking about psychological addiction, and I thought you were saying since psychological addiction is still an addiction it should be treated like a physical addiction, so I provided counterexamples on that specific point.

Yeah, you get the same physical problems that comes with smoking (not illegal) and similar mental impairment as with alcohol (not illegal). The studies about whether it's physically more or less harmful than either of those are widely contradictory. So... uh... eh. *shrug*

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I am addicted to internets. If I feel my connection severed, I only have a few hours before I start sweating, getting pale, and wondering how everything is doing on the internets. You don't want to know what I'm like when I'm visiting my mother.

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