Harry Potter Books debate: TELL WHAT U THINK!

InterruptorJones · **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:10 pm

No Smorking wrote:

Ever wonder what he looks like off the air?

This reminds me of The Barney Fun Page (um, disturbing pixelated violence warning?), which I remember as one of the very first web sites I bookmarked back in 1996 or 1997.

Utard · **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:20 pm

InterruptorJones wrote:

No Smorking wrote:

Ever wonder what he looks like off the air?

This reminds me of The Barney Fun Page (um, disturbing pixelated violence warning?), 7.

Gah! That's creepy, out of date and a fun waste of time! What's it with all the "Barney is Evil" stuff? Educational TV may seem stupid to smart people, but to them babies, it's like going to highschool! What's really bad is educational TV without the education. Like this:

http://pbskids.org/boohbah/boohbah.html

A bunch of farting fat aleins that dance...

*shudders*

Cmarbagoi · **Posted:** Thu Apr 28, 2005 7:46 pm

Utard wrote:

http://pbskids.org/boohbah/boohbah.html

A bunch of farting fat aleins that dance...

*shudders*

To me, those look like colorful polyps jumping up and down.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:43 pm

hmmm.... this has gotten a bit off topic, but ohh well, ive been off topic alot of times to :mrgreen:

Beyond the Grave · **Posted:** Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:31 pm

I want to know ho the one person was that said Harry Potter is evil or satanic or witch craft or witch's brue

Didymus · **Posted:** Sun May 01, 2005 6:40 am

I think Modestly Hot Dude came up with this topic, thinking that it would be more controversial than it ended up being. There's a few ultra-right Fundamentalist groups that make that claim, but I'm not an ultra-right fundamentalist, so I fail to see why it's important. Plus I'm a big fan of mythology and fantasy fiction, so I can't exactly call the kettle black, anyway.

Alehandro · **Posted:** Sun May 01, 2005 9:46 pm

Modestly Hot Guy wrote:

yeah they are packed with fluff. on the count of D&D, how could they think its satanic? its just roleplaying, made up by a (excuse this!) nerd named gary gigex. i play it, but, Im Cool. explaine how its satanic?

It ain't satanic, but it's comin' closer than it should for a "kids" book. Rowling does site real people that practiced witchcraft, alchamy, etc. Such as Nicolas Flamel (Prof. Dubles' alchamy buddy). Nicholas Flamel was a French alchemist that lived during the 1300s. He allegedly created the philosepher's stone(not a typo), as is recorded in historical documents and Wiccan lore. The stone allegedly created the Elixer of Life, which allowed him not to die. In the book he is 665 years old. This subtracted by 1991/1992(when it was being written by Rowling) is 1326/1327 for Flamel's birth. In real life he was born in 1330 give or take. Also in the book, his wife's name is Perenelle (also Petronelle), the same in real life. Coincedince? I think not. (by the way I can site all of these claims)
:ehsteve:

somebody · **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2005 2:44 am

Quote:

In the book he is 665 years old.

I was going to post a comment about the age of Nicholas Flamel. I also think that the books are not satanic but have their moments such as this that could hint otherwise.

Smorky · **Joined:** Sun Dec 12, 2004 2:26 am **Posts:** 775

665? Couldn't they have made him one year older?

Didymus · **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2005 12:34 pm

But then he would have been the same age as Barney. And we ALL know the deal with him! (remember: CVTE PVRPLE DINOSAVR = 666).

ramrod · **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2005 2:48 pm

No Smorking wrote:

665? Couldn't they have made him one year older?

Well, you could always wait a year for his next birthday.

Upsilon · **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2005 5:49 pm

According to Wikipedia: "Flamel was mentioned as being six-hundred and sixty-five at the time of the first book, but Nicolas Flamel was a real historical figure and wouldn't have reached that age until 1996."

Alehandro · **Posted:** Tue May 03, 2005 8:50 pm

I THOUGHT THAT DEVIL-DINO WAS HIDING SOMETHING! Anyway, it's give-and-take within a few years,(the guy's about six-and-a-half cent. old so give old flamey a break for not being able to remember his exact b-day will ya?

) the date is basically right. It's still erie if its only off by 4 years. It' s doubtfull that it wasn't on purpose.
:ehsteve:

Hamrodrunner · **Posted:** Sat May 07, 2005 5:02 am

Jerome wrote:

Satan Potter is a bunch of crap. I can't believe people are actually dumb enough to believe it.

This ought to either give you a good laugh or make you spew: http://www.exposingsatanism.org/harrypotter2.htm

Excuse me for a second.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But really, that lady needs some serious clown care.

Tintin · **Posted:** Sat May 07, 2005 7:13 am

That site is just looking for things that are clearly not there. I'm a Christian and I don't think that if a writer uses say: a unicorn in their story, that they are necessarily using it to encourage readers into the new-age or pagan religions, they may just want to use the unicorn in their story because it's an interesting creature. I don't think authors think that deeply about these things...

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sat May 07, 2005 8:02 am

oi... my mouth taste's like...... Postage.....
okay, im back, and pagan isnt satanic! neither is potter! and i guess Rowling was just making uf some stuff that she didnt know, but was a coinkidink, or not......

StrongCanada · **Posted:** Sat May 07, 2005 4:35 pm

It all comes down to teaching kids/readers the difference between FICTION and NON-FICTION. It's the same problem that's plagueing (sp?) The DaVinci Code. A few people have misrepresented these books and now there are many who think that it's all for evil purposes, when the authors simply wanted to tell a story. I love the Harry Potter series AND I am a Christian. I am going to be one of those nerds who waits in line on July 16th for my copy of the next book (I am not putting down nerds - I openly admit that I am one)!

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sun May 08, 2005 10:43 pm

well i cant do that, that same night, at best buy the atari Flashback2.0 is coming out, ill buy it later.

Frotzer · **Posted:** Sun May 29, 2005 1:28 pm

Oh No why would the harry potter books be satanic? and why are we talking bout this?? someone lock this thread

Tintin · **Posted:** Sun May 29, 2005 2:48 pm

I don't think Harry Potter is a bad read, but there a number of places that make me uncomfortable as a Christian. Overall though I don't see why everyone is making such a fuss! Can't they see Phillip Pullman's "His Dark Materials" trilogy is a far greater threat to spreading God's Word?

StrongCanada · **Posted:** Sun May 29, 2005 8:50 pm

The thing is, that I have a friend who believed the Harry Potter books were Satanic, but he loved the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. Go figure.

Frotzer · **Posted:** Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:25 am

They are not satanic not even barney so why talk about it???

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:15 am

Frotzie wrote:

Oh No why would the harry potter books be satanic? and why are we talking bout this?? someone lock this thread

Hey, Furure Frotzinger, This aint ur topic, so it cant be locked unless it has been riddled with filth, gotten too off topic to where were talking about the Eagles Fairwell tour, or until i ask a Admin to ''Please Close This Thread", but im not gonna because this is sparking very intreuging conversation, now if u dont like it, get out of here. man, im like michale Savage!

ModestlyHotGirl · **Posted:** Thu Jun 02, 2005 3:28 pm

Frotzie wrote:

They are not satanic not even barney so why talk about it???

If you don't want to talk about it, don't. No one's forcing you to read this thread.

Evin290 · **Posted:** Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:26 pm

Tintin wrote:

I don't think Harry Potter is a bad read, but there a number of places that make me uncomfortable as a Christian.

What parts of it?

Frotzer · **Posted:** Mon Jun 06, 2005 1:52 pm

Why are the harry potter books satanic? they use their magic for the GOOD

of life not for the bad of life they use there powers to help people..well sometimes Mods Blow this thread with the bitsybigboyboomeroo

Upsilon · **Posted:** Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:39 pm

Assuming you're asking mods to lock this topic, that's enough of that.

mibluvr13 · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:13 am

Sorry, gotta jump in here. I read that hunk of crap for kicks and this sentence literally made me laugh.

Quote:

The little girl writes Potter a poem: His eyes are as green as a fresh pickled toad, He is truly divine, the hero who conquered the dark(sic) lord.

That little (sic) kills me. As if suggesting that the author made a mistake in calling this lord dark. Anyway, I read Harry Potter. I like them. I'm not a witch nor do I believe such magical powers are real. I started reading these when I was 11 so I'm completely against the thought that only a teen could "be kept from swaying to the dark side." I do happen to know TONS of people who are deathly afraid of Harry Potter and its horrible occult undertones. *snicker*

Didymus · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:18 am

I am currently reading the Harry Potter series. I think they're cute. Not quite on par with The Lord of the Rings, but decent.

Yes, there is some occultic imagery there. But hey, they're supposed to be traditional Halloween style witches, like on Bewitched. I do not think the books glorify pagan gods or anything like that, which is what the Bible refers to when it speaks of witchcraft. Nor does the author seem to propagate a pagan worldview. It's just something fun to read.

But if people are upset about Harry Potter, they should consider The Lord of the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia, both of which contain occultic and pagan imagery, and both of them written by devout Christian men.

Beyond the Grave · **Posted:** Thu Jun 16, 2005 3:22 am

Didymus wrote:

I am currently reading the Harry Potter series. I think they're cute. Not quite on par with The Lord of the Rings, but decent.

Yes, there is some occultic imagery there. But hey, they're supposed to be traditional Halloween style witches, like on Bewitched. I do not think the books glorify pagan gods or anything like that, which is what the Bible refers to when it speaks of witchcraft. Nor does the author seem to propagate a pagan worldview. It's just something fun to read.

But if people are upset about Harry Potter, they should consider The Lord of the Rings and The Chronicles of Narnia, both of which contain occultic and pagan imagery, and both of them written by devout Christian men.

Welcome back Diddy.

I didn't know that J.R.R Tolkien and C.S. Lewis were devout Christians. It kind of wierd, a devout Christian writing a book that is set in a pagan world.

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