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At least for now, he's put together a Presidential Exploratory Committee. So what would you guys think of him running? If he does, I think he'd be a shoe-in for winning the Democratic ticket...and he might very well win the presidency, too, if he runs.

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I watched the Today Show this morning, and I think he pretty much confirmed he is gonna run. Ten times better then Hilary, IMO. I dunno if he would win if John Mccain would run, but he definitely has a chance.

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Well, he's not necessarily going to get the Democratic nomination... there's always... Hilary...

*shudder*

Also, even if he wins the Democratic nomination, in all honesty he probably won't win because, well, he's not white. Not that that would ever influence my own voting, but I believe that there's enough of a demographic that would not vote for a black man to keep him from winning.

It's a shame, too. If I had to have a Democrat as a president, it'd be Obama. He's very moderate, especially compared with the other people in his party.

You know, I know a lot of people who are uber excited at the notion that Obama might run for office, but very few of them know where he stands on a lot of issues. While I like the idea of someone who is "Not Hillary", I would really like to know more about him and his take on a lot of the major issues in my life. To be honest, I see a lot of the same things happening with Mitt Romney.

I will say this: If he does get the nomination, I REALLY hope the republicans don't attempt to use his middle name as a negative.
So, his middle name is Hussein. Who cares?

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I'm personally excited at the fact that he might run. I'd rather have him run rather than Hilary. She just seems too....out there at times. Barack's much more mainstream. He has that same vibe that Bill had.


But you know if Hilary wins the Dem. nomination, Barack's going to be her VP, and vice versa if Barack wins the Nomination.

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I'd hope he would be smarter than that. His appeal is that he seems to be a little more moderate than other candidates. I would think he should tap another moderate (someone like John McCain, if McCain doesn't get the repub. nomination).

Of course, moderates are not allowed in DC, so we'll see what happens.

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Man, now i wish i could vote!

He's gonna win if he runs, For sure!

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I would vote for Obama in a heartbeat. However, if he runs I think we will a find out how racist this country still is.

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Third thing i agree with.

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If he loses, I really hope people don't all start talking about how racism beat him. I mean, he could still lose to a better candidate.

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Better candidate? He'd be going against Hillary Clinton. From what I know, out of the two of them, He's the better candidate.

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Hillary Clinton is NOT the only democrat who's thrown their hat in the ring, though.
John Edwards, former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd and Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich have also filed.

I don't think Hillary has actually filed anything yet.

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Don't forget, that even if he does win the nomination, he has to run against the Republican candidate, which by the look of it, could be either former NYC mayor Rudy Giuliani, former NY Governor George Pataki (Lord I hope not), Sen. John McCain, Mass. Governor Romney, or Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice.

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I think he has a 50 / 50 chance. He's a change and looks good.

But I doubt that people actually will want a black man in office.

In fact, I heard some highschoolers discussing him and even using the n- word in the hall today.

People like that shouldn't be able to vote...

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Condi Might Run??!?!

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I wouldn't mind Giuliani or McCain, if I had to have a Republican.

It's interesting to read these posts because they match up with this poll I read about. A lot of people are saying "I'd vote for him" or "I wouldn't mind him as a president" but saying "I don't think other people would vote for him because he's black". That's exactly what this poll said. An overwhelming majority of Americans said they would have no problem voting for him, but thought most other people would be too racist to do the same.

Me, I'd just like to have some leader who can actually talk. It's not rational or logical, but there's something primal about wanting a leader who actually has charisma (as long as it's not used for evil--no Godwin please). Obama's got that for sure.

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Does anyone want to link Obama's stance on some issues?

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All I've heard is that he has a "solidly liberal voting record" (from a mainstream news source). Yes, some clarification would be nice

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This might help.

His Senate record is above that.

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I must admit that his legislation in the 109th congress (particularly immigration stuff) is pretty impressive.

I'm also surprised that his partnerships with republican big boys like McCain and Arlen Specter haven't gotten him kicked out of his party.

I can't say that I really like the stuff he does in the "Political Advocacy" section (I think the Death Tax should be abolished, Wal-Mart pays employees enough, etc..). The ideas that he is not opposed to war if it's actually needed AND that he wants the left to work with the religious right instead of ignoring them are encouraging and refreshing, coming from the left.

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sree, i like that you're more conservative and yet i often agree with you. especially about where obama stands. i love the guy, and i want him to win a lot, but he needs to put himself out there on the issues. and i am not a fan of romney, personally, but i think he would suffer from the same problem.

my favorite thing about obama is his bipartisanship. i'm pretty leftist, so it means compromises for my personal choices, but in the spirit of better government, i'm willing to give that up.

I'd be watching out for Michael Moore. He might strangle you for saying something like that.
Seriously, though, there's nothing wrong with either viewpoint, (even ultra-right wing or ultra-left wing), provided they acknowledge that the other side exists and are willing to compromise for the greater good.

Obama seems to be intelligent enough to realize that.

I say "seems" because, to be honest, I really don't know much about him.

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Well, something like that. But what is wrong with Hillary? I ask 'cos I don't think I've met one single American who has a good word to say about the woman.

I had thought a bulk of it was rumours I had heard regarding her almost Jack Thompson-esque view of video games, but according to the Wikipedia article on her political views, she's only spoken out against Grand Theft Auto and proposed a bill that would deny the sale of violent video games to minors. The latter, at least, I can certainly agree with. If we don't allow minors into NC-17 movies (or R movies without a parent's/guardian's consent), then why shouldn't we do the same for video games?

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Problems I have with Clinton:
*Her stance on illegal immigration: Not the one she claims to have, but the one that's led her to threaten to filibuster immigration bills. Obama, on the other hand has authored bills to block illegal immigration and punish those who would be here illegally.

*Energy Policy: If we're going to break ourselves from foreign oil, we need more drilling. If all but the fields in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge areas are tapped, then we're going to have to tap those. If can be in a way that minimizes environmental impact, provided people try to do so. It wouldn't be the only potentially damaging activity we have going on in a sensitive ecological area. I'm also against the US ratifying the Kyoto treats. It's based on bad science and there's no real proof that it'll provide any useful benefit for the economic investments it'd take. (I'm not out to destroy the planet, regardless of how my take on energy might sound.)

*Education: I really don't like the argument wikipedia listed. It's full of logical fallacy, and it's an argument that can easily be fixed. Aren't schools accredited some way or another? All you have to say is that the vouchers can only go to schools that meet some set of accreditation criteria. Poor children in poor neighborhoods deserve the same right to high quality education as rich, privately schooled children. (Wow, I think I actually sound more liberal than Clinton on this one)

*Abortion: Pure and simple, unless someone's life is in danger or rape was involved, I don't think abortion should be allowed. Your parents can't kill you just because you're an inconvenience, the same right should extend to your unborn sibling.

*Gun Control: I am not a fan of gun control (to put it mildly). I do not think lawsuits should be allowed against firearms manufacturers if the products are used in a way they were not intended by the manufacturers (Smith and Wesson does not make guns for the express purpose of murder and gang violence). I also find the fact that she voted to allow (by voting against a bill that would prevent) seizure of lawfully owned firearms during a disaster. Law-abiding citizens who are not causing trouble should not have property taken from them (4th amendment). Bad weather is not "just cause".

*Video games: While it IS true that she supports the sale of M rated games to those over 18 (good idea), she also seems to want to blame games for problems that kids would have without them.

Now, I'm not saying she's the devil, don't get that impression.
Unlike some people, I'll admit when my adversaries are correct.

Clinton's take on Israel is spot on (or close to it, I don't know how far she's willing to take "solidarity and support for Israel), as are her takes on humanitarian intervention and the fact that she supports the rights of students to pray and does not wish to inhibit their use of religion in assignments.

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FYI, if you wanna find out any politician's views, check out OnTheIssues.org. Based on Obama's page, I will not vote for him.

I am against abortion and embyronic stem cell research, both of which Obama supports. He also voted yes on allowing illegal aliens to participate in Social Security, which is just ludicrous. At least he's been against the Iraq war from the beginning.

I've spent some time at OnTheIssues.org's presidential hopefuls page, and Mike Huckabee seems to match my politics best.

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Yeah, I think it's interesting how he's against gay marriage but for abortion. Not many people will agree with him on both issues.

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I just now realized I'll be 18 two months before the next election... Anyway, I would never vote for Obama. Too socialist.

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Well, Keep in mind that Hillary Clinton believes children should have the right to sue their parents.
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... i_12925569

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