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I know I'm off-topic with this, but I'll be quick.



My understanding is that Clinton supports releasing more oil reserves, just not in places like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, as you said yourself. Has she since changed her tune, then?

About the Kyoto Agreement - I'd be interested to know what you mean by "bad science". I know there are some scientists who are skeptical about Man's role in climate change, but many of them simply say that it's presently unclear how much Man is to blame for climate change. Which is a fair point - at least to my untutored opinion - but to me that doesn't constitute conclusive evidence that the Kyoto inititive is a waste of time.

Kyoto is based on the idea that humans are destroying the planet and irreversibly changing its climate. The reason I call this "bad science" is because it's currently unclear how much, if any, humans are affecting earth's climate. To suggest that drastic measures (that are nothing but destructive to the economies of modern industrialized nations) should be taken based on something that most of the scientific community isn't even sure is happening is a bad idea.

My own idea of climate change is one of caution, but not alarm. There are more pressing issues that could be more easily dealt with (Malaria and/or AIDS in Africa, the rise of extremism, etc..)

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But all Kyoto specifies is that developed countries have to reduce their emissions by 5% from 1990. And developing countries don't have the same obligation to reduce emissions, but just to submit a report on how much emissions they produce. That doesn't sound drastic to me. A lot of countries have exceeded their targets, in fact. And while observing Kyoto is admittedly more expensive than not, I've not heard any complaints so far that it's hurt any country's economy.

re: Economic Impacts- Fair enough. I admit, I was usually reading my meteorology or chemistry book when I was supposed to be paying attention in ECON class.

If a 5% decrease in emissions is all that's required AND it wouldn't cause any troubles economically, then I've got no problems with it.

What does trouble me is the fact that developing countries have no emissions caps. I can't help but wonder if the enforcement industrialized nations might be yet another incentive for companies to move to developing nations.
Of course, like I said, I know more about climate than I do economics.

Anyways, we're really off topic here. I would say "let's get back on topic", but I don't want to do that and make you think I'm trying to get the "last word" in.

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hillary isn't all that bad, to me. well let me amend that. i don't HATE her, at least. i do not like her stance on video games. it drives me nuts. i don't like the idea that she knows what is right for me, although admittedly, if she blocked sale of games to minors, it wouldnt affect me at all.

i wholeheartedly support kyoto, but we'll leave that one hanging because it's the stuff of other threads, so i'm glad that hillary would support that.

really, though, if she is in the primaries, i'm never voting for her. if it's down to a 2 candidate situation, i'd consider it.

Woah. I Wiki'd that and that's just irony beyond irony.

Anyway, if Obama does get to the "finals", as I call it, I'll see if his opponent seems good or not. Then, if I decide that Obama should win, then I'll wish I can turn 18 in 2 hours.

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I dunno... old people might misread his name as OSAMA. He'll probably win anyway.

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I really hopes he wins. But I know there's no way it will happen (don't know if he'll even pass the primaries).

What makes you so sure that he can't win?

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I like Barack Obama, but as much as it pains me to say it, I think he might just be the Antichrist.

Think about it. He comes from nowhere, becomes immensely popular in a very short time, and now is poised to take control of the most powerful country in the world.

Plus his middle name is Hussein.

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No, I think he's a decent guy. I don't think he could win, and I think there are more qualified and better candidates out there (Al Gore, anyone?) but he's better than most Republicans. Except Chuck Hagel. I like Chuck Hagel.

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Speaking of Republicans, have you noticed that all of the good Candidates are not Evangelicals. I sense a changing in the wind. It looks like the Republicans are going back to the start.

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I haven't seen a true evangelical repub in a while.
Bush is certainly not an evangelical.

I'm just hoping to all things holy that Giuliani doesn't get the republican nomination. He'll get CREAMED in the November 08 election if he does. He is running on his name, and that's bound to come out in the general election if it doesn't get out in the primary.

To be honest, I'd vote for Hillary Clinton over Giuliani. Granted, I really don't agree with some of her stuff, but at least she has SOME experience.

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Huh, I'd say personally that he's primo evangelical. Certainly that "God made me invade Iraq" stuff was skirting close to it.

I dislike presidential dynasties. A lot. If another Bush even considers running I think I'll go into a spasm.

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So did Lincoln. And Obama's trying to use that similarity to win.

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My only stance on Obama is that he is only been on the Senate for 2 years, so I dont know if I could vote for him.

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There have been Presidents that has had little experience. Look at Lincoln.

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And they're both from Illinois!

Coincidence...? I think not.

No, seriously, I think Obama would make a decent president, but sadly, I think many Americans would not trust a man whose name sounds like "Iraq Hussein Osama" to be their president, no matter how great he'd be.

VP, maybe. Gore-Obama '08!

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EWWWwwwww...

Now THAT is a ticket I'd NEVER vote for.

Clinton-Obama would be great, especially if the "Clinton" was Bill. Unfortunately, that can't happen.
I like Bill.

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Don't we all, Sree, don't we all...

Hey, I'd go to the Arkansas-Tennessee football game with him anytime.

Bill, if you're reading this, holla at ya boy!

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Link?

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http://news.independent.co.uk/world/ame ... 317805.ece

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Not exactly iron-clad proof he said that, but whatever.

Thanks.

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I don't agree with a good handful of Obama's positions, but think of it this way: President Barack Obama would have the coolest sounding name since President Calvin Coolidge.

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I guess it's easy to dismiss any journalism as not being iron-clad proof when it says something you don't want to hear.

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And it's also easy to accept any journalism as being iron-clad true when it says something you want to hear.

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Um yeah...... I'm just going to invoke Occam's Razor at this stage. And the simplest explanation is that he actually said it, rather than some mad conspiracy concocted by Abu Mazen and/or the BBC.

No one from Bush's camp has disputed Mazen's claim anyway, as far as I'm aware, and he's told other people that he's guided by God (see PMG's link).

Major difference between

"God told me to invade Iraq and kill the Satan-worshiping Muslims!"

and

"I pray for direction from God in my life and work."

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Well, yeah, it is. Anyway - this is what he said, according to Nabil Shaath:



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