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Author:  zirnitra [ Sat Jun 09, 2007 10:53 pm ]
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what about everything else? Is there not a good representative for the other infinite religions and philosophies in the world?

Author:  Parlod [ Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:07 pm ]
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zirnitra wrote:
what about everything else? Is there not a good representative for the other infinite religions and philosophies in the world?

I really don't think there are. There've been some Cthulhuists, but....yeah :)

Author:  IantheGecko [ Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:26 pm ]
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We have some Buddhists & a handful of Jews here, as well.

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:29 pm ]
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Parlod wrote:
zirnitra wrote:
what about everything else? Is there not a good representative for the other infinite religions and philosophies in the world?

I really don't think there are. There've been some Cthulhuists, but....yeah :)
YOU DON'T KNOW JACK!

Author:  Didymus [ Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:46 pm ]
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When this Forum first started, JoeyDay, it's creator, intended for it to be just a place where people could identify their religious background, mostly so we could all get to know each other better. But almost immediately, there was tension between atheists and theists, and so this particular board was started to allow us to discuss these topics more fully. Because - let's just be honest here - this type of discussion is going to happen anyway. At least by keeping it here, we hope to keep it from disrupting what the rest of the forum is supposed to be about: namely Homestar Runner and the HR Wiki.

Some people don't appreciate that we do have this particular board (and my advice to them: Don't browse it). Some people absolutely love it. I have something of a love/hate relationship with it myself.

I'm not sure this particular thread is absolutely necessary, but I'm going to leave it open for now, to allow others to comment on what they think.

Author:  PianoManGidley [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:45 am ]
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I see flowing trends in topics within this board...sometimes, like now, it focuses on the tensions between Christians (and a few other non-Christian theists) and Atheists; sometimes, it's Republicans vs. Democrats; sometimes, it's Creationists vs. Evolutionists; sometimes, it's pro-lifers vs. pro-choicers...it's even felt like gays (and gay supporters) vs. straights sometimes.

We represent a fair spectrum of beliefs and values here, so it's not all just Christians vs. Atheists--that's just what the current tide has brought in.

Author:  Simon Zeno [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:45 am ]
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Of course, every thread invariably degenerates into people rehashing the same arguments for no better reason than to argue.

Author:  lahimatoa [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:29 am ]
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And invariably someone will complain about the forum instead of just staying out of it.

Author:  MikeMcG [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:38 am ]
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But it's good to admit it, so we all know we're doing it and we can get back just like we normally do.

Author:  Simon Zeno [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:39 am ]
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lahimatoa wrote:
And invariably someone will complain about the forum instead of just staying out of it.


LOL I GET IT YOU USED THE WORD INVARIABLY AGAIN TO MAKE A COUNTERPOINT!

Anyways, as to the actual topic here, I think it's just simply demographics. A lot of people in primarily English-speaking nations are Christians or atheists. I should become a member of some obscure religion, just to diversify things here...

Author:  Rogue Leader [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:30 pm ]
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I am an atheist Republican as well.

Author:  Didymus [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:30 pm ]
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And guess what: this Forum has Christian democrats as well! :O

(I myself am neither party).

Author:  PianoManGidley [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:19 pm ]
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I'm an Individual Spiritualist Left-Leaning Libertarian....that's enough to make any regular person go "WTF?!"

Author:  Jello B. [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:09 pm ]
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Didymus wrote:
And guess what: this Forum has Christian democrats as well! :O

There are tons of Christian democrats.

Author:  zirnitra [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:28 pm ]
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PianoManGidley wrote:
I'm an Individual Spiritualist Left-Leaning Libertarian....that's enough to make any regular person go "WTF?!"


Which side is left again?

Author:  IantheGecko [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:29 pm ]
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Left=Liberal. Nice mnemonic, huh? ;)

Author:  zirnitra [ Sun Jun 10, 2007 9:40 pm ]
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Ah, I thought so.

btw, nice robot chicken reference in your location there.

Author:  PianoManGidley [ Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:05 pm ]
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Yeltensic wrote:
I wish I could travel backward in time to the 1930s (I think that's when "liberal" came to mean "left" in the United States) and prevent the change. It doesn't make any sense...."liberal" comes from "liberty" and if you're left-wing you want more government control of the economy..."liberal" should mean libertarian. (sighs in mourning over changes in the definitions of words)


I always thought of "liberal" meaning "open-minded," which the Democrats are more known to be regarding social issues. Perhaps you're right, though--Libertarians are often socially liberal as well, in addition to being for less government control.

Author:  Inverse Tiger [ Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:06 pm ]
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Yeltensic wrote:
"liberal" should mean libertarian.

It still does in Europe.

Christians vs. atheists... I'm a Catholic in a state of denial. I believe in the spiritual, but the question is: is there really a God on the other end of that? If no, then maybe it's more about a deeper connection to the world around you. If eventually I accept that it's the first, I'll go back to Christianity. If I find it's the second, I'll probably be a Buddhist of some kind.

Author:  PianoManGidley [ Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:12 pm ]
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Inverse Tiger wrote:
I believe in the spiritual, but the question is: is there really a God on the other end of that? If no, then maybe it's more about a deeper connection to the world around you.


That's essentially the concept of Pagan spirituality--a spiritual connection to the world and universe itself, and everything in it, as opposed to a spiritual connection to a diety. You can have those, too, I think, but the core of the belief is spiritual connections to everything and anything: the world entire, the universe entire, individual trees, people, animals, other life, etc.

Author:  DESTROY US ALL! [ Tue Jun 12, 2007 12:36 am ]
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Um, isn't liberal a word without political meaning that isn't derived from Liberty at all?
Like:
"I put a liberal amount of butter on my toast"
Make sure to be liberal with that paint, we want a nice thick coat"

Author:  PianoManGidley [ Tue Jun 12, 2007 1:07 am ]
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According to The Online Etymological Dictionary, "liberal" originally regarded something "befitting a free man, noble, generous," from the root "liber" meaning "free." The "generous" portion of that description could be seen as growing to apply to "a liberal coat of paint."

Author:  Shippinator Mandy [ Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:08 pm ]
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DESTROY US ALL! wrote:
Um, isn't liberal a word without political meaning that isn't derived from Liberty at all?
Like:
"I put a liberal amount of butter on my toast"
Make sure to be liberal with that paint, we want a nice thick coat"


...What, is that Democrat toast or something? :P lol j/k j/k no ban plz

As it is, I'm just extremely glad we have a separate board for religion and politics. There's a forum I used to go to where half the threads in the general discussion board seemed to be religious and/or political debates (well, more like scream-fests--looking back on it, a lot of the people there were complete jerks...). Thanks to this board, we can kinda channel that into a separate area.

Author:  Didymus [ Wed Jun 13, 2007 10:27 pm ]
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Exactly. And that was its intended purpose at its inception, and the function it still serves. Not only that, but by channeling controversial discussion here, we can oversee and moderate it better than if it's scattered all throughout the HRWF.

Author:  Einoo T. Spork [ Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:21 pm ]
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Yeltensic wrote:
I think that hardcore, graphic, violent porn should be sold in elementary/primary schools by Klansmen holding "I Slaughter Kittens" signs.




...how's that for controversy? :mrgreen:


EINOO APPROVES

Author:  Einoo T. Spork [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:32 am ]
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Yeltensic wrote:
You horrible person! I don't really think that, it was just a test to see if anyone holds such shockingly offensive opinions! Aaaaahhhh!!!!!


EINOO WAS KIDDING

Author:  Duecex2 [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:37 pm ]
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No, I think it tends to be Atheists vs. Dids and Lahi.

Author:  Didymus [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:42 pm ]
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You obviously don't pay enough attention to this board, then.

Author:  Acekirby [ Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:26 pm ]
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Yeah, it's usually Everyone vs Lahi.

Though I kind of agree with Zrnrnsitsananewhatever. A lot of the religious threads seems to boil down to Atheists (and sometimes Agnostics) vs Those who have religious beliefs, of which Christians are the huge majority here.

Author:  Shippinator Mandy [ Sun Jun 17, 2007 3:32 pm ]
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Duecex2 wrote:
No, I think it tends to be Atheists vs. Dids and Lahi.


...Where are you getting that idea?

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