ChickenLeg wrote:
fro Presidency
I think people will vote for whoever they think is the best choice, be it Clinton/Obama or the Republican. People aren't complete fools, right?
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| Author: | ChickenLeg [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:23 am ] |
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I kind of just had this thoughtlet a few minutes ago, and it kind of deserves its own thread. So, jumbled sentences and maybe contradictions ahead. Everyone knows the leading candidates fro Presidency in the Democratic party is Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Now, if one of them gets into the "finals" against a Republican finalist, would America vote for change, progress, and the like, or vote Republican because there is no way they want a woman/black for President? Now, who knows? Maybe the Republican, whoever it may be, could be the better choice for America than a Democrat. The Democrat "finalist" might not even be either of those two. What I'm trying to say is will people vote against the Democrat come Election '08 because they don't want a different gender/race in the Oval Office? |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:29 am ] |
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Between Obama and Hilary, I'd vote for Obama. Not because Hilary's a woman, but just because I don't like her. Most of the Republicans I know would vote against either one, not out of discrimination, but because they disagree with their politics. At one time, there were rumors that the Republicans might look at Condie as a viable candidate. In which case, you'd have two minorities rolled into one. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Voting discrimination |
ChickenLeg wrote: Now, if one of them gets into the "finals" against a Republican finalist, would America vote for change, progress, and the like, or vote Republican because there is no way they want a woman/black for President? Republicans are against progress? Maybe I'm just reading too much into that. Quote: What I'm trying to say is will people vote against the Democrat come Election '08 because they don't want a different gender/race in the Oval Office? Some might. I don't think it'll be as big an issue as the democrats will make it if they lose, though. Besides, there are likely to be as many people voting FOR them out of the sheer novelty of having a black/woman president.
I wouldn't vote for Clinton, regardless. I dislike her politics but, more importantly, I think she's running on name recognition more than actual ability to lead (You shouldn't have to think too hard about the last time we voted someone just because they were related to the president from a term or two back). Obama doesn't fare much better in my eyes (but I would consider voting for him. I do like the fact that he's willing to work "across the aisle", getting people from both parties together. However, I don't think he's been in Washington long enough to know how things work. Truthfully, I'm a little disappointed that Hillary (leading democrat) and Giuliani will probably get their respective party's nominations and both are running on name recognition alone. Platforms of the current front-runners Hillary: "Vote for me because my husband was president. Vote for me so you can have a woman president because that'd just be cool." Giuliani: "I was NYC mayor on 9/11!" |
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| Author: | eater of jelly [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Voting discrimination |
ChickenLeg wrote: fro Presidency
I think people will vote for whoever they think is the best choice, be it Clinton/Obama or the Republican. People aren't complete fools, right? |
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| Author: | Ju Ju Master [ Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Voting discrimination |
StrongRad wrote: Truthfully, I'm a little disappointed that Hillary (leading democrat) and Giuliani will probably get their respective party's nominations and both are running on name recognition alone.
Platforms of the current front-runners Hillary: "Vote for me because my husband was president. Vote for me so you can have a woman president because that'd just be cool." Giuliani: "I was NYC mayor on 9/11!" Yeah, but at least Guliani did some great stuff and, in my opinion, deserves that name recognition. Hillary's just a president's wife. |
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| Author: | ed 'lim' smilde [ Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Voting discrimination |
ChickenLeg wrote: What I'm trying to say is will people vote against the Democrat come Election '08 because they don't want a different gender/race in the Oval Office? I think for every person who won't vote for them because they're minorities, there is one person who will vote for them only because they're minorities, really.
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| Author: | Mr. Sparkle [ Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:30 am ] |
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StrongRad wrote: Giuliani: "I was NYC mayor on 9/11!" 
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| Author: | Acekirby [ Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:44 am ] |
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StrongRad wrote: Giuliani: "I was NYC mayor on 9/11!"
Hah. That's all I see his stance as being as well... Unfortunately, there are a lot of voters out there who will go crazy for this guy because he references 9/11. |
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| Author: | PianoManGidley [ Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:21 am ] |
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Acekirby wrote: StrongRad wrote: Giuliani: "I was NYC mayor on 9/11!" Hah. That's all I see his stance as being as well... Unfortunately, there are a lot of voters out there who will go crazy for this guy because he references 9/11. And then Hilary will be all like, "Umm....hello? SENATOR of New York standing here! I'm in a higher position than him!" |
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| Author: | ChickenLeg [ Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:53 am ] |
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Mr. Sparkle wrote: StrongRad wrote: Giuliani: "I was NYC mayor on 9/11!" I lol'd. Now let's get back to serious business. In the end, it can be pretty much a political popularity race and name brand recognition. I mean, for all we know Didymus could be the best President this country might ever have, but Hillary can wipe him out just with name recognition alone. |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:31 am ] |
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There are no doubt people who would vote against Hilary/Obama because of the sex/race issue, but there are also those who would vote for them for exactly the same reasons... black people and especially women make up a large portion of the population, and both have a strong tendency to support their peers when they achieve success. StrongRad wrote: However, I don't think he's been in Washington long enough to know how things work.
That might not be so bad. Naïve = less likely to be corrupt. - Kef |
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| Author: | ChickenLeg [ Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:56 pm ] |
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furrykef wrote: StrongRad wrote: However, I don't think he's been in Washington long enough to know how things work. That might not be so bad. Naïve = less likely to be corrupt. - Kef That's another plus. Kennedy and Lincoln were inexperienced politicians, but look at them. They're very highly respected Presidents for their actions. They also happened to be assassinated. But still, they did stuff that might've saved the country from being split up or blown up. I mean, Lincoln was so unknown during his Presidency run that flags supporting him wrote his name as Licon. Or something. I kind of have a political mantra that is pretty much summed up by Kef there. |
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| Author: | Acekirby [ Sat Jul 07, 2007 8:01 am ] |
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furrykef wrote: StrongRad wrote: However, I don't think he's been in Washington long enough to know how things work. That might not be so bad. Naïve = less likely to be corrupt. - Kef On the flip side, Naïve could also = more likely to be influenced and become corrupted. But that's just what I think. BTW Chicken, have you considered the possibility that Romney might get the Republican nomination? He's a Mormon, something that's pretty unheard of for a political candidate. |
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| Author: | lahimatoa [ Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:44 am ] |
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Quote: BTW Chicken, have you considered the possibility that Romney might get the Republican nomination? He's a Mormon, something that's pretty unheard of for a political candidate.
Really? Harry Reid, Senate Minority Leader before the Dems took over, is Mormon. That's pretty high profile. |
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