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It's a misconception that a majority of youth are for Kerry.. Although there are a lot that would have you believe it's 90/10 for youth, it's actually probably closer to 50/50...

StrongRad wrote:

It's a misconception that a majority of youth are for Kerry.. Although there are a lot that would have you believe it's 90/10 for youth, it's actually probably closer to 50/50...

"actually probably"? Where do you get your numbers? I'd never argue that it's 90/10, but it's certainly not a myth that younger voters are more liberal.

There are lots of false assumptions made about people's voting habits. Including:

* All Christians vote Republican
* All young voters are Liberal
* All Minorities vote Democrat

There are lots of false assumptions made about people's voting habits.

All Christians vote Republican

All young voters are Liberal

All Minorities vote Democrat

How can Republicans claim they are supporting democracy when they practice all these voter suppression and scare tactics?? That's not a democracy. I get so frustrated with all of the intimidation.

This is probably going to get me nailed, but has anyone actually seen this so-called intimidation? I don't mean reading about or hearing someone talk about it. Has anyone actually seen it? Just curious.

StrongRad wrote:

Yes, plenty of this has been actually seen. To my knowledge there's no one site that catalogues every instance; you're going to have to do some work and Google it yourself. I posted quite a bit in the trump card thread, but those bits are pretty old. As mentioned previously, Daily Kos has some stuff in the archives. Google News is also a good place to check. Have fun.

Author:	thefreakyblueman [ Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:06 am ]
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Here's an interesting article I found (warning, contains minor cursing): Clicky This really scares me. Basically, it's about anonymous people (the majority of them Republican) sending letters to registered Democratic houses saying that the people aren't registered to vote, or that their registration is invalid, thusly omitting them from voting in this election. Though I'm guessing the majority of them didn't believe it, the mere thought that some of them would is enough to make one shudder.

Author:	TheNintenGenius [ Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:18 am ]
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I'm glad I voted via absentee ballot (of course, I had to. I'm going to be a couple hours away from my polling place on election day, and doing classes on top of that). Of course, there's any number of awful things that could be done to my absentee ballot, but I'd rather not think about it.

Author:	Warlordofhomsaria_v2 [ Mon Nov 01, 2004 1:28 am ]
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the father at my church made a joke "it's sorta funny,WE have to pray for all souls on election day

Author:	InterruptorJones [ Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:12 pm ]
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This isn't news. I've made several posts in the trump card thread about the GOP's voter suppression, intimidation, and misinformation tactics. They've been at it all year, and it's only getting worse. Daily Kos is keeping track of a lot of the incidents, if you want some depressing reading, but the sad truth is that the vast majority will go unpunished, and as a result thousands are being disenfranchised. Florida '00 was nothing compared to what the GOP has accomplished this year.

Author:	thefreakyblueman [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:24 am ]
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Anyone who isn't watching the polls, do so. Now. Clicky if you're not watching it on TV.

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Author:	ramrod [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:34 am ]
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I have heard that at some colleges there were Republican lawyers telling the students that they need to have 2 photo id's and their voter registration card with them, which is false. It's scary the way the GOP is trying to curtail the young voters, because most of them are voting for Kerry.

Author:	StrongRad [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:39 am ]
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Don't buy into that... The "lawyers" were telling them that, but if they really didn't know, they could VERY easily have checked with the local county clerk's office... It's a misconception that a majority of youth are for Kerry.. Although there are a lot that would have you believe it's 90/10 for youth, it's actually probably closer to 50/50...

Author:	InterruptorJones [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:22 am ]
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StrongRad wrote: It's a misconception that a majority of youth are for Kerry.. Although there are a lot that would have you believe it's 90/10 for youth, it's actually probably closer to 50/50... "actually probably"? Where do you get your numbers? I'd never argue that it's 90/10, but it's certainly not a myth that younger voters are more liberal.

Author:	StrongRad [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:55 am ]
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InterruptorJones wrote: StrongRad wrote: It's a misconception that a majority of youth are for Kerry.. Although there are a lot that would have you believe it's 90/10 for youth, it's actually probably closer to 50/50... "actually probably"? Where do you get your numbers? I'd never argue that it's 90/10, but it's certainly not a myth that younger voters are more liberal. That "50/50" thing was just a guess... I really don't think that the youth of America is as liberal as we're led to believe.. With that said, I do concede that it is a more liberal than conservative.. To what extent, really depends on where you get your numbers. I just hate when they assume that all youth voters are voting Kerry... Depending on where this supposedly happened, there could have been more Bush votes "turned away". Besides there is no REAL proof that this was done by republicans, it could have just as easily been done by democrats seeking to stir up trouble. I'm not going to say either, because I don't know. Truthfully, I don't put much into democrat/republican, liberal/conservative... I'm a registered republican, but I voted Badnarik, and I did vote for a couple democrats in local races... Badnarik did a LOT better than I thought, he got 1 vote in my precinct, and 18 in my county. WOOT! (first time I believe I've ever posted WOOT! on a forum) Maybe in 48 years or so someone will break the two party stranglehold and make it into the white house.

Author:	Didymus [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:07 am ]
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There are lots of false assumptions made about people's voting habits. Including: * All Christians vote Republican * All young voters are Liberal * All Minorities vote Democrat

Author:	StrongRad [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:12 am ]
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Didymus wrote: There are lots of false assumptions made about people's voting habits. Including: * All Christians vote Republican * All young voters are Liberal * All Minorities vote Democrat Can it be said that these parties are taking these groups for granted? Man, Dan Rather is cracking me up tonight.. He still hasn't said anything about rusted lug nuts or trailer money... He did say earlier that this thing was "humming along like Ray Charles"... He's, by far, the best.. Anyone want to start a thread of "Ratherisms" from this election?

Author:	soce,the elemental wizard [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 3:52 pm ]
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How can Republicans claim they are supporting democracy when they practice all these voter suppression and scare tactics?? That's not a democracy. I get so frustrated with all of the intimidation.

Author:	StrongRad [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:17 pm ]
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socetew wrote: How can Republicans claim they are supporting democracy when they practice all these voter suppression and scare tactics?? That's not a democracy. I get so frustrated with all of the intimidation. This is probably going to get me nailed, but has anyone actually seen this so-called intimidation? I don't mean reading about or hearing someone talk about it. Has anyone actually seen it? Just curious.

Author:	Didymus [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:28 pm ]
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I've also heard reports of Democrats using similar tactics, like slashing the tires of Republican voters' vehicles and such. I begin with the assumption that these reports are rumors. But even if they are more than just rumors, it probably shows that crazy people can be trusted to come out of the woodworks and try just about anything to support their cause, rather than let democracy take its natural course, and that it's not a matter of party policy. I hope that by next election they can figure out what to do about the long lines at the polls.

Author:	furrykef [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 6:17 pm ]
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My own voting woes: our state makes it impossible to vote for a third party candidate. Only Bush and Kerry were on the ballot, and you could not write in a candidate. I thought that wasn't legal, as did my friends, but apparently it is. I'm also disturbed by how strongly measures to ban same-sex marriage are passing. Our state passed one. But I don't want to drag this thread into that. - Kef

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Author:	StrongRad [ Wed Nov 03, 2004 5:42 pm ]
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InterruptorJones wrote: StrongRad wrote: This is probably going to get me nailed, but has anyone actually seen this so-called intimidation? I don't mean reading about or hearing someone talk about it. Has anyone actually seen it? Just curious. Yes, plenty of this has been actually seen. To my knowledge there's no one site that catalogues every instance; you're going to have to do some work and Google it yourself. I posted quite a bit in the trump card thread, but those bits are pretty old. As mentioned previously, Daily Kos has some stuff in the archives. Google News is also a good place to check. Have fun. Thanks.. I think I'm gonna watch Kerry's speech and go to bed. I've been up since about 530 Eastern time, yesterday... When I wake up I'll look some of that stuff up. It just seems to be that I wouldn't be intimidated if I wanna vote. Perhaps seeing what is supposedly going on may give me some insight. Dan Rather was great last night. I wrote down most of his funny stuff..I have a REALLY big list.