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| Author: | ChickenLeg [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:20 pm ] |
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StrongRad wrote: BlackWater wrote: I think it should. There's a couple people I'd like to deck in the face but I'd get arrested for. The deal with Dueling, though, is that that other person would have to agree/have equal chances to deck YOU in the face. Now that's very true. But 50/50 chances in winning at a duel isn't really fun. I'd rather have a Yu-Gi-Oh type where the underdog wins somehow over someone who "wins" all the time. But other than that, no dueling. Unless it's card dueling. |
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| Author: | netzen [ Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:31 pm ] |
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Heh. Some guy: I challenge you!! Some other guy: I accept! Get your Yu Gi Oh cards! First dude: I'd prefer Pokemon. Second dude: Fine. |
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| Author: | Zoologist! [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:33 am ] |
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Yeah, sure, instead of using knowledge and evidence to solve disputes, let's shoot someone. I'm really lying about the scam I pulled, but I can get away with it if I shoot the other person. Seriously, dueling is the cause of a dispute between two people, but instead of using evidence and fact to prove the other wrong, shoot them? Later, the person who won may have been in the wrong all along, while the person in the right is dead. Dueling risks many people's live, not just because of the person getting shot, but because that person may have been RIGHT. If that happened to be true, people would believe the person in the wrong. Politically, it would ruin us. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:57 am ] |
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That certainly goes along with the "might makes right" mentality, which I've been saying all along will undermine our whole system of civil justice. But I like the way you focus on that aspect. It not only needlessly destroys life, but in fact doesn't solve anything. |
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| Author: | bwave [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:00 pm ] |
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Zoologist! wrote: Yeah, sure, instead of using knowledge and evidence to solve disputes, let's shoot someone. I'm really lying about the scam I pulled, but I can get away with it if I shoot the other person.
Seriously, dueling is the cause of a dispute between two people, but instead of using evidence and fact to prove the other wrong, shoot them? Later, the person who won may have been in the wrong all along, while the person in the right is dead. Dueling is usually an honor type thing. Most people dont have duels just because they want a law changed or something. They duel because someone called their girlfriend a slut. And in politics, there isnt always a "right" and "Wrong" as you say there is. It's usually a matter of "What might be right for you may not be right for some!" Also, if someone truly believes that their method, idea, or philosophy is superior, then they would be willing to putting it before the general populace, rather than fight for it.[/i] |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:31 pm ] |
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Quote: And in politics, there isnt always a "right" and "Wrong" as you say there is. It's usually a matter of "What might be right for you may not be right for some!"
Maybe not in politics as such, but in a legal context (that is, the actual working of the law, rather than the public show), there are very clearly defined distinctions between right and wrong. Practically any issue over which someone might duel can be just as easily (and much more safely) addressed by law rather than violence (and should be). And even in those areas where the law may not be clear, it is much better if the legal process can help the two sides reach an acceptable compromise, rather than allow the two sides to kill each other over it. |
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| Author: | Dacheet15 [ Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:44 pm ] |
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If by "Dueling" you mean "Fighting to the death", then no way! Fencing and paintball seem to be enough. So why dueling? |
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| Author: | Shippinator Mandy [ Fri Oct 12, 2007 5:29 pm ] |
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Didymus wrote: Maybe not in politics as such, but in a legal context (that is, the actual working of the law, rather than the public show), there are very clearly defined distinctions between right and wrong.
Exactly. For example, whether or not you believe murder is wrong (hypothetical situation, I know all of you do), it IS wrong in the eyes of the law. So if you don't believe it should lead to arrest, that doesn't mean that it WON'T lead to arrest. I'm prolly missing the point though. |
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