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Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Sat Nov 10, 2007 6:11 am ]
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furrykef wrote:
And that pretty much substantiates my Surgeon General's Warning above. :P
Don't deny it, Peyong-pei sow will rise again!

Author:  Amorican [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:21 am ]
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furrykef wrote:
Well, I have to agree with COLA somewhat... a lot of people (though certainly not "everyone") who aren't really racists do have subconscious racist thoughts that are difficult to suppress. Including me. I don't want them, but they come to me nonetheless. Fortunately, actions count much more than thoughts, and I don't do anything racist. I think my biggest problem right now is that I find it difficult to keep it in my mind that black people are still "one of us", because I so rarely interact with them anymore, and -- there's no use denying facts -- most black people do act differently than white people. There's no "hip hop" gene, of course, but due to societal factors, they have formed their own subculture, and their culture has different norms than "white" culture. And, to be frank, I don't like that culture. I don't think I'm racist for that. Nobody would say I'm a racist for not liking French culture, right? If I didn't like African-American culture because I don't like black people, that would be racist, but I'm pretty sure that's not what's going on in my mind. In any case, I do try my best to forget these negative associations and judge every black person the way I would judge any other person: "by the content of their character, not the color of their skin".

As for the "criminals and lowlifes" thing... again, I don't think black people are genetically predisposed towards that sort of thing. But given their position in society, where a great many of them are still poor, it would not be surprising to find a higher proportion of criminals and lowlifes. And people do have a very bad habit of generalizing from patterns like that, and then judging individual people based on those generalizations. We shouldn't do it, but nevertheless, it's hard not to do. The instinct is built into us and the pressure to do it is everywhere. Even if we aren't consciously aware of the pressure, it's there. It's really insidious. I guess human nature often is, really...

- Kef


Now imagine you are a black person, knowing that the white people all around you think that way. You are constantly having to prove you are not like "those blacks." You constantly have to prove to people that you are good enough. You constantly have to prove that your as smart as anyone else and you're not going to steal anybody's wallet and your not a thuggin' hip hopper. And you also know that no matter how hard you work, you will never quite fit in as "one of us" as you put it. You have to adopt white beauty standards and white cultural norms to become successful. If you're a woman, you probably have to straighten your nappy hair to fit in, because a big ol' fro ain't gonna go over too good in da office. So much for being yourself. So much for having pride in who you are. And that's where the self-hatred starts. The first black girl I dated was a sad case of this. It was obvious she hated being black, and did everything she could to disassociate herself from anything black. I think she strictly dates white guys now, and says things like "I'm not one of those typical black people." It was really sad. But it is a direct result of the attitude that black culture is inferior and synonymous with hip-hop culture. Even black children can't escape it. For years it was impossible for a black girl to get a Barbie doll that had hair like she does. It was just white Barbie painted brown. Ever watch Snow White? "Who's the fairest of them all?" Little black girls are taught that they are ugly, and white is pretty.

Now, on top of all that, you gotta contend with the fact that some scientist has "proven" that blacks are less intelligent. And some white people are saying "yeah, now we know for sure what we've all secretly suspected." So now you have to prove that you're an exception to this DNA rule. And it never ends.

Author:  HHFOV [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:51 pm ]
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I'd just like to say that Watson PROVED absolutely nothing.

All he did was SAY that it was so, probably due to senility and to get publicity.

Author:  furrykef [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:44 pm ]
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Amorican wrote:
Now imagine you are a black person, knowing that the white people all around you think that way. You are constantly having to prove you are not like "those blacks." You constantly have to prove to people that you are good enough. You constantly have to prove that your as smart as anyone else and you're not going to steal anybody's wallet and your not a thuggin' hip hopper.


Black people don't have to prove anything to me. I'm not utterly incapable of seeing black people for who they are. I suspect that I only have the prejudices that I do because I don't know the people in question. All I see is a superficial image. But when you get to know somebody, superficial images fade away and you see people for who they are.

- Kef

Author:  Didymus [ Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:50 pm ]
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It depends. If it's some kid on the street with his pants pulled down to his freaking knees, with his butt poking through his underwear, and he talks all, "Yo yo yo, Homes! @&^%$&@%&% Dat, $*^%*&^! Gonna smack my %(^# up and @%^$&", then I might jump to the conclusion he is some thug-wanna-be hip hopper. On the other hand, if he dresses, acts, and speaks like some of the black guys I bowl with on Tuesday night, then I'd probably think he's an alright dude.

Author:  lahimatoa [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:38 am ]
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Exactly. It's all about image. I don't like P-Diddy-Snoop-Doggy-Puffy-Wuffy or whoever the big rapper these days is. But I also dislike Eminem. The thug image is not awesome, IMO. Race has nothing to do with it.

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:46 am ]
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Amorican wrote:
Now imagine you are a black person, knowing that the white people all around you think that way. You are constantly having to prove you are not like "those blacks." You constantly have to prove to people that you are good enough. You constantly have to prove that your as smart as anyone else and you're not going to steal anybody's wallet and your not a thuggin' hip hopper. And you also know that no matter how hard you work, you will never quite fit in as "one of us" as you put it. You have to adopt white beauty standards and white cultural norms to become successful. If you're a woman, you probably have to straighten your nappy hair to fit in, because a big ol' fro ain't gonna go over too good in da office. So much for being yourself. So much for having pride in who you are. And that's where the self-hatred starts. The first black girl I dated was a sad case of this. It was obvious she hated being black, and did everything she could to disassociate herself from anything black. I think she strictly dates white guys now, and says things like "I'm not one of those typical black people." It was really sad. But it is a direct result of the attitude that black culture is inferior and synonymous with hip-hop culture. Even black children can't escape it. For years it was impossible for a black girl to get a Barbie doll that had hair like she does. It was just white Barbie painted brown. Ever watch Snow White? "Who's the fairest of them all?" Little black girls are taught that they are ugly, and white is pretty.

Now, on top of all that, you gotta contend with the fact that some scientist has "proven" that blacks are less intelligent. And some white people are saying "yeah, now we know for sure what we've all secretly suspected." So now you have to prove that you're an exception to this DNA rule. And it never ends.
Yeah, America's great, aint it?
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If you're a woman, you probably have to straighten your nappy hair to fit in, because a big ol' fro ain't gonna go over too good in da office.
So you're saying that all black women are born and predisposed to have nappy hair?

Author:  Rogue Leader [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:00 am ]
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Actually, the word fair has an archaic usage which means beautiful... I am not sure what Disney was aiming for but it sounds like he went for that.

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:06 am ]
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Rogue Leader wrote:
Actually, the word fair has an archaic usage which means beautiful... I am not sure what Disney was aiming for but it sounds like he went for that.
Second, what does Snow White have to do with race?

Is it because her name is Snow White? Would you like it better if she was Snow Black? Or Snow Asian? Snow Mexican? Snow Steinman?

Author:  Homerun Starrer [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:35 pm ]
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Hay guys, read this.

Thought it was kind of interesting, and it has to do with the subject...

Author:  ramrod [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:43 pm ]
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Homerun Starrer wrote:
Hay guys, read this.

Thought it was kind of interesting, and it has to do with the subject...
Weird thing is, just a month or 2 ago, I watched a video of her doing one of those exercises in my Sociology class. It's an amazing thing to see, really.

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:42 pm ]
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Homerun Starrer wrote:
Hay guys, read this.

Thought it was kind of interesting, and it has to do with the subject...
Now then, how can we fix the matter globally?

Author:  Martin Luther King [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:23 am ]
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My brother, I find this to be offensive.

The questions on that IQ test were hard.

Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:35 am ]
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Oh, wow. I don't know who this guy is, but he's making me laugh a lot.

Author:  furrykef [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:59 am ]
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AbuGrape45 wrote:
I don't know who this guy is


bwave.

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:04 pm ]
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Martin Luther King wrote:
My brother, I find this to be offensive.

The questions on that IQ test were hard.

bwave, you dolt! You're supposed to be behind SEVEN proxies! SEVEN!!!

Author:  IantheGecko [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:11 pm ]
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I don't think a man with a Doctorate in theology would fail an IQ test...

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:30 pm ]
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IantheGecko wrote:
I don't think a man with a Doctorate in theology would fail an IQ test...

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Just a slave to the machine, y'all! Not paid to think!

Author:  IantheGecko [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:33 pm ]
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ramrod wrote:
Alright, let's not get go into that territory on MLK Day, ok?

Author:  StrongRad [ Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:20 pm ]
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IantheGecko wrote:
ramrod wrote:
Alright, let's not get go into that territory on MLK Day, ok?


Or any other day.

Author:  MooKoo [ Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:45 am ]
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AbuGrape45 wrote:
Oh, wow. I don't know who this guy is, but he's making me laugh a lot.

You and me both brotha'!!

LMBO!!
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Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:14 am ]
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This happened in my town.

IN MY TOWN.

Author:  HHFOV [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:01 pm ]
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DYLSEXICS UNTIE

Author:  gunluva [ Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:41 am ]
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Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:
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This happened in my town.

IN MY TOWN.


My Principles of Engineering teacher has that picture on his bulletin board. It's surrounded by anti-Gore stuff, too.

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