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This is true.

J.K is pulling crap out of her anus just so everybody would forget that her bra was falling down when she was touring or some other crap.

And the eccentric qualities are ruined because they're kinda sterotype-ish.

Personally I don't care if a fictional old man is gay. Should have put that in the books instead of saying "oh hey bumblebee's gay and naval married hufflepuff" though.

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That's pretty much my feeling on the subject anyway. The books are over, but Rowlings needs to stay in the spotlight.

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I can't imagine the LGBT community could actually be happy about this... I mean, Rawlings didn't mention anything in the book, and if KartoonKween'd's quote is correct, she called it "unnatural", which they seem to hate. So yeah, I don't really care. I agree with the people who are just saying she probably wants attention.

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But that was said by Rita Skeeter, a character with the credibility of a stink bug. The sure fire way to repudiate an idea in the mind of your reader is to have it spoken by someone who is either a liar or a complete idiot.

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Oh, well I definitely haven't read the 7th book. I only remember KK'd's post.

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Like I said, opinions will be divided, but I think the overall feeling in the community will be one of guarded approval. Most of the wrangling will likely be over whether Rowling should have done this sooner. I'm definitely not anticipating widespread boycotting.

To be honest, most of the hand-wringing and overreaction I've seen so far has been from straight fans who seem at least somewhat offended over this revelation.

I also doubt Rowling just made this up on the fly. It's probably been in her mind for the character for a long time, but before now she didn't want to mention it (possibly for fear it would hurt sales).

Mike

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Logical fallacies ahoy! I'd also like to say: graaaaagh!

I believe with all my heart that Rowling did not make this fact up on the spot for more attention. In fact, she was a bit afraid that this new revelation would generate mostly negative attention. It was wiser to out a character that was already established in our minds than to do it earlier when it could have clouded our judgment of him.

She new that she would make a lot of fans angry, but she did what she did anyway. I find this admirable.

At best, it's pointless.
1. It's a fictional character to start with.
2. It has nothing to do with the story whatsoever.
3. The barest hint of it in the story is spoken by a completely unreliable character.

Conclusion: doesn't matter one bit.

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I does matter.

1. It offers even more incite into a mysterious character.
2. It adds a new angle to many plot points.
3. It proves that there are indeed gay characters in the HP universe.

Have you ever noticed that when somebody learns something that they don't like, they call that knowledge "pointless" or "unnecessary"? There is no such thing as pointless or unnecessary knowledge. The more we know about something, the better. Ignorance may be bliss, the the more we know about something the better we can understand something.

In this case, it's not "someone doesn't like something, so they call it pointless" as much as it really is pointless.

It might explain why he didn't have a wife, but that really has nothing to do with the plot.

This ranks right up there in usefulness with finding out that Brett Favre's nephew had $7 in his wallet last weekend during the Packers' game.

However, Dumbledore IS her character, so whatever.
Also, I could care less about Harry Potter, so why am I here?

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

But it does have something to do with the plot. It adds a new angle to that whole deal with Albus and Gellert. It was a pretty big plot point, you know.

It also adds dimension to Dumbledore's character. Why does it have to be about plot, anyway? What ever happened to caring about character development?

Did the fact that Brett Favre's nephew had $7 in his wallet cause any controversy? If Dumbledore's orientation had been useless information, nobody would have cared. If people care about something, it is not useless.

Why is it not useless just because people care about it? People sometimes care about some pretty stupid things.

Also, in my opinion, character development only matters if it's in the books. The characters only exist in the books, so any development outside the books doesn't really mean anything.

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I agree with Dids. It doesn't matter.

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From a purely literary standpoint, it isn't that important at all. Their relationship could be understood as collegial. After all, they were two great wizards with many common interests. But then again, the same could be said of Ron and Harry, and both of them were straight.

But if we're going to discuss this from a political/religious standpoint (since this is the R & P), I will continue to voice my own disapproval of homosexuality, since God himself forbids it. But we've already discussed that topic more than a dozen times in this board, so dragging that back out would be nothing but beating a dead horse. But from that perspective, if you're expecting my approval, don't hold your breath.

But it's a piece of fiction, and I'm going to treat it as such. In pretty much the same way that the elements of witchcraft are fictional elements within the story, and not the work of Satan.

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Ah, but I'll waver that those things aren't very stupid to the people who care about them.

I think it's pretty hypocritical for members of the HRWiki forum to gripe about "pointless information". There are articles about how many times pizza is mentioned for crying out loud! To someone who doesn't care about H*R, this would be considered "pointless information". Just sayin'.

Dude, we don't use the Wiki. Heck, I bet only 8 out of the 12 or so active old members even watch homestar anymore.



But still, attention whore is whoring her warez for more monnies and fame.

Ten bucks says we see that "Character Compendium" published by July.

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I...still watch Homestar.

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As do I. But I'm under no illusions that it, too, is a piece of fiction intended purely for enjoyment. I seriously doubt that Homestar Runner is ever going to institute a new age of world peace or something like that. At best, it'll give some hyperactive kids and geeky adults an occasional chuckle (but then, who doesn't need those?).



I commend your courage for admitting that, Deuce. We should have a Forum "Coming Out" day for members who still actually watch Homestar and/or frequent the HRWiki.

I still watch Homestar, too!

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I do too, but I'm pretty sure everyone knows that.

As for me, I couldn't care less if Dumbledore's gay or not. It doesn't add to or subtract from my enjoyment of the books.

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So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain. Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil? Do you think you can tell?

Honestly, I still check every monday for updates, and maybe check the wiki if I didn't get a reference or misheard a line. I'm just not as obsessed as I was in 7th grade.

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I've been meaning to watch Homestar. Does that count?

*encourages a toastpaint*

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Rowling has outlived her usefulness. She wrote the books. That was her purpose in life.

It's really likely that she made it up on the spot so she could get more press attention. I mean, it's just another discussion with an author until LOL HEZ GAY OMG! I'm really sure you could go back and read the entire series with that in mind, and it would not change one thing.

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To you and everyone else who's saying this: take a step back and look at what you're saying. You're just being cynical. You can't read Rowling's mind; you're just jumping to conclusions. It's clear that Rowling took her series seriously, and serious authors generally don't just make up stuff like that. There's also something called "the benefit of the doubt" that should be exercised every once in a while.

In case you're wondering, I'm not really a Harry Potter fan. I've only read the first book, and I like it, but I've never felt a particular urge to read beyond it. I just really hate it when people jump to conclusions without much justification.

- Kef

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I would also like to point out that she already ruined the character by making him a manipulative anus. So this is just a random fact that has no importance whatsoever.

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How do you "ruin a character" by adding more dimentions to it? The more developed a character is, the better.

By adding another dimension that makes the character completely unlikeable, I suppose.

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"Explain to me how drowning them would not ruin their date."

Making a character unlikable to some people does not ruin the character. The value of a character should not be measured by how likable it is; it should be measured by how complex it is.

I've never read one word of Harry Potter, nor have I seen the films, but I find all of this interesting from a sociological standpoint. As always, people tell us a lot about themselves via their reactions to this sort of thing.

Mike

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Logical fallacies ahoy! I'd also like to say: graaaaagh!

That depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If you want your reader to identify with the character, then complexity isn't necessarily the way to accomplish it. Anakin Skywalker was a very complex character.

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I've never read one word of Harry Potter, nor have I seen the films, but I find all of this interesting from a sociological standpoint. As always, people tell us a lot about themselves via their reactions to this sort of thing.

Mike

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Logical fallacies ahoy! I'd also like to say: graaaaagh!