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Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:44 pm ]
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Read plz.

I hope they don't charge this kid with anything. It's bad enough for him knowing how much damage he caused.
Author:  Shippinator Mandy [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:11 pm ]
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If he's a preteen (presumably between 9 and 12, I'm guessing), he should know better than to play with matches.
Author:  MikeMcG [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:49 pm ]
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He should've known enough to play with matches with older kids. They know how and when to play with matches.
Author:  StrongRad [ Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:34 pm ]
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The "BIG" fire wasn't started by this kid, though.
Still it's bad enough.

I never got "playing with matches" anyway. I always knew what I was doing.

Perhaps his parents should be charged with crappy parenting. I distinctly remember getting the "If you start a forest fire, I will kill you" talk.
Author:  Vitruvian Dude [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:53 pm ]
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Lawl, well, that kid's gonna be messed up for life.
Author:  IantheGecko [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:54 pm ]
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And that's why you don't play with matches, kids.
Author:  ChickenLeg [ Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:56 pm ]
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IantheGecko wrote:
And that's why you don't play with matches, kids.


Yes, because all kids who play with matches start forest fires.

But seriously, this kid should be punished, but not in a crazy way. It was an accident and such. Yet, I agree that his parents be charged with crappy parenting.
Author:  Beardo [ Sat Nov 03, 2007 2:58 pm ]
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I don't think his parents should be charged for bad parenting. Everyone knows not to play with matches, but breaking the rules is half the fun. It's not like this kids parents handed him a couple boxs and told him to go find somewhere nice and dry.

Come on.
Author:  bwave [ Sat Nov 03, 2007 3:46 pm ]
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Beardo wrote:
I don't think his parents should be charged for bad parenting. Everyone knows not to play with matches, but breaking the rules is half the fun. It's not like this kids parents handed him a couple boxs and told him to go find somewhere nice and dry.


Yeah. I believe that parents should be held accountable at times, but from what I've seen so far, this isnt one of those cases.

My parents always told me not to fool around with matches when I was young, but I was just fooling around with road flares yesterday. And those are basically uber-matches.

If I started a fire that killed/destroyed stuff, I wouldnt want my parents to held accountable.
Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:08 am ]
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StrongRad wrote:
The "BIG" fire wasn't started by this kid, though.
Still it's bad enough.
We know he had help, but he did start it.

The parents shouldn't be held accountable for his actions on this one. Telling a kid to do something is easy, having them actually do it isn't.
Author:  Didymus [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:12 am ]
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Then either one of two things needs to start taking place:

1. Parents need to exercise more control over their children, and actually make them do what is right (and the government needs to support them and encourage them in that).

2. The kids themselves need to be held responsible for their actions.

Otherwise, we end up with a society where anything goes, and no one is held accountable for anything.
Author:  Rusty [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 1:26 am ]
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Thanks for trying to burn down my home, jackhole.

And the parents shouldn't be blamed for this. The parents should only be blamed for things they have control over - they don't have control over this.
Author:  Acekirby [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:23 am ]
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People keep going "the parents should be punished because they are terrible", but, you know, parents can't watch a kid 24/7, especially as he gets older. Sure, they probably told him not to play with matches, but when you get older you start to get into that "rebellious" phase and want to do whatever they tell you not to.
Author:  Sloshy [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:51 am ]
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I agree. If they should charge anyone, they might want to charge the kid. It's not really the parent's faults that he was playing with matches unless they let him. He could have snuck them out in his pocket or found them outside. Still.
Author:  IantheGecko [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:00 am ]
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Of course they should charge the kid! Even if he's not an adult, he's still at an age at which he should know not to play with matches.
Author:  Sloshy [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:38 am ]
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IantheGecko wrote:
Of course they should charge the kid! Even if he's not an adult, he's still at an age at which he should know not to play with matches.


Exactly. If he's younger than preteen, maybe they could let him off, but he's apparently preteen, and when you're the age he is, you've gotten the "if you play with matches I will freaking KILL YOU ON THE SPOT" lecture more than twice. More than thrice.
Author:  StrongRad [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:42 am ]
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I never played with matches.
GI Joes, yes. Hot Wheels cars, yes. Video games, yes. Fire, yes. Matches, no.
Regardless, I think someone needs to be held responsible. This bonehead caused a lot of people to lose everything they had.
Author:  Ju Ju Master [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:04 pm ]
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StrongRad wrote:
I never played with matches.
GI Joes, yes. Hot Wheels cars, yes. Video games, yes. Fire, yes. Matches, no.

I lol'd.

The kid should be held responsible, he's old enough to know better. You can't just let someone get away with something like that; what kind of example does that set?
Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:34 pm ]
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This kid's gonna be in trouble.

And most likely an arsonist when he grows up.
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:36 pm ]
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clever_dan wrote:
This kid's gonna be in trouble.

And most likely an arsonist when he grows up.
Yes, and a kid who pulls a fire alarm will be a Firefighter when he, too, grows up.

Same thing about doctors and a kid who plays one.
Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:26 am ]
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Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:
clever_dan wrote:
This kid's gonna be in trouble.

And most likely an arsonist when he grows up.
Yes, and a kid who pulls a fire alarm will be a Firefighter when he, too, grows up.

Same thing about doctors and a kid who plays one.

A kid who pulls a fire alarm with intentions to scare people will be the guy that hangs out at the bar with the rest of his jock friends and pranks everybody when he grows up
Author:  The Noid [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 12:27 am ]
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Correction: guy who gets stoned in The OfficeMax parking lot.
Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:29 am ]
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Or a guy who hangs out with his jock buddies, plays pranks, and gets stoned in an OfficeMax parking lot.
Author:  furrykef [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:16 am ]
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And people who don't toastpaint will themselves get painted in place of the toast.

*wields paintbrush* Hint, hint.

- Kef
Author:  AbuGrape45 [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:18 am ]
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I don't know what any of that of means.
Author:  furrykef [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:32 am ]
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"Toastpaint" is forum slang meaning "get back on topic". I don't know what the exact origin is, but one of the other old-timers around here probably does. It's also represented by the following icon: Image

The rest of my post was just being silly.

- Kef
Author:  The Noid [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:50 am ]
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Toastpaint was a term coined by older admin AgentSeethroo. It might have actually been InterruptorJones but thid information was presented to Noid when he was a n00b and Noid thought they were the same people so his memory is foggy.

anyways gb2w (get back to work)
Author:  lahimatoa [ Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:35 am ]
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It's a tough question... I believe the kid should be held responsible for what he did, accident or not. Parents can't be punished for everything their kids do... unless there is strong evidence the parents taught their kids wrong values (like that arson is cool).
Author:  Shippinator Mandy [ Thu Nov 08, 2007 8:56 pm ]
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lahimatoa wrote:
...unless there is strong evidence the parents taught their kids wrong values (like that arson is cool).


I am getting a great mental image.

"GOODBYE, JIMMY! HAVE FUN AT SCHOOL, AND DON'T FORGET TO BURN THINGS!"

(It's like how my dad keeps telling me not to close the school...)
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