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My friend was telling me about Christian metal. I think it's called white metal. Because it's not... black.

But I do hate Christian rock. None that I've heard sounds original, and it's all sort of lame and stupid and the lyrics are always bad. And like someone said, Jesus is a stupid thing to make rock music about. Really stupid.
I mean, if I heard any decent music I wouldn't hate the idea so much.

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Can somebody give me an honest, intelligent reason to why Jesus isn't a good thing to make rock music about?

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One more try:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c34E1p6cVKQ
This is the problem with Christian rock.
It's not really about Jesus.

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SIBHoD.

OK, first off, someone already posted that. And second, they're just making fun of one band. I really don't like how people judge all Christians based on the actions of a few of us.

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No, I'm not trying to judge the Christian faith at all (I am a Christian myself), and I'm not trying to judge all Christian music either. But the biggest names in Christian music are the ones who put the most money into it, and often it is because they want to get the most money out of it.
I like most Christian church type music, I'm just saying commercial Christian music often seems to go wrong somewhere along the line.

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SIBHoD.

[emphasis added by me]

Now that is where I agree with you.

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Sure. It's the cultural associations. It'd be like having a black spiritual song that isn't about God or Jesus. Imagine such a spiritual with the lyrics of, say, Enter Sandman (or insert favorite metal song here). It doesn't fit the cultural context and, therefore, comes across as either funny or pathetic (or both). Traditionally, if you wanted to write something about Jesus, you'd write a hymn or a gospel song or maybe something baroque or classical. If you wanted to give the masses a good time, you rock out -- with a secular song. That's the way we've been doing it for a long time and associations like that are very slow to fade.

And, let's face it, regardless of your own opinion of religion, most people think of religion as boring. They think of going to church and listening to the preacher yammering on about things they're not interested in and how just about anything that's actually fun (at least from their point of view) is prohibited. They might think of trying to make sense of the KJV, which certainly isn't the easiest thing to read. If that were how you felt about it, would you want to be reminded of such stuff when listening to rock music?

- Kef

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Probably not, but I'd at least think there has to be something better and more fulfilling than the "boring" stuff.

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Hahaha, my mom makes me go to those. The only redeeming thing is the dude who runs it, Matthew Krumdrick, is a huge Kevin Smith fan, which is cool by me.

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Look, Metal comes from Hell. It's a scientific fact. I cite Tenacious D in The Pick of Destiny.

You can't go mixing mojos like that.

Now, if I were gonna do some Xian Metal, I'd do it about Old-Testament God, back when calling someone a baldy got you mauled by bears. That stuff's Metal.

*strokes beard*
You might be on to something there...

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People who say that the OT God and the NT God are drastically different pretty much show that they don't know either the OT or the NT very well. They tend to ignore all the places where God helped people - gave them endless supplies of flour and oil, gave barren women children, rescued people from enemies, that sort of thing. They also tend to ignore places in the NT where He executed judgment, like when He gave a certain king a severe case of worms because he allowed people to worship him as a god, or struck a husband and a wife dead because they lied to Peter. God's acts of mercy and judgment are found equally in both Testaments.

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Haha, Simon, you gotta be careful, you just set Didy off on an utterly pointless sideshow.

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So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain. Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail? A smile from a veil? Do you think you can tell?

Just correcting a common misconception, Einoo.

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I know I know, but I kinda want to also appeal to the largely-untapped Jewish demographic.

Which brings up my next point:
Why no Jewmetal? And heck, I bet a Buddhist can shred like a mad doc.

Because rock 'n' roll is filled with tons of orthodoxies, like being loud and rebellious or using guitars and drums as the dominant instruments.

Jews don't really seem like the kinda people to rock out. Well, maybe on Purim...

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Isn't Weird Al a Jew?

*yes, I know. He's not really a Jew. He just plays one on TV.

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The Makkabees aren't very good, but they do play Jewish folk and religious songs in the metal style. Yidcore is supposed to be some sort of Jewish poppunk band, but I think it's more of a Jewish cultural identity thing than a religious thing.

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That's it; Behemoth Manserpent is now officially Buddhacore.

and other religions

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Oh yeah?



Don't see any other religions mentioned there.

- Kef

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Oh I dunno. Simon Finn's "Jerusalem" isn't even a rock song, it's art-folk, but I'd say it rocks pretty [loving] hard all the same

I don't think "Christian Rock" is the appropriate way to glorify God and praise him. Ian, you mentioned the Psalms. Why not sing something that God Himself wrote through David and others to glorify God rather than sing things that men have written?

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Our band will be called Iron-Clad Rabbi.

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On a more serious note, I have no problem with Christian Rock, being a christian myself; I just think most of it sounds terrible, and it's not my style of music anyway.

^What this man said. I don't think rock music is inherently evil or anything like that.

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There are some Christian Bands that are kinda half-sucular half-Christian and the are pretty cool. My fav bands in this Catagory is Switchfoot and Relient K. THERE AWESOME!!!(Relient K is like a Christian Sum 41/Simple Plan Mix)

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I tend to find Christian rock to be...really cheezy. And painful to listen too.

The exception to this is the music of Relient K, which incidentally, happens to be my favorite band. Isn't it funny how things work out?

The thing I like about Relient K is that those dudes have an air of sincerity about them. They don't try to be copies of secular bands, and they don't force themselves to sound "Christian". They just be themselves, and their love of Jesus shines through. They also have a really good sound (in my opinion), and they definitely have skill as musical artists. Further more, their lyrics have a real poetic feel (especially their more recent work).

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it's not good to be turned off from a genre as a whole. Instead, its good to judge individual bands, or even individual songs.