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Author:  Sneakernets [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:51 pm ]
Post subject:  BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/merseyside/7212556.stm

From a more detailed article:
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She added: "We thought that was bad enough but then the next night was even more frightening.

"We were in this road when a car suddenly slowed right down as it passed us. A window opened and a gun came out and pointed directly at me.

"I froze and then I heard a police siren nearby, not related, but I think that might of put them off doing anything.

"There was also a CCTV van in the road, and they would of seen that, so that makes their attack even more audacious because they did it right in front of the CCTV camera."


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This whole gun control thing isn't working.
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
Sneakernets wrote:
This whole gun control thing isn't working.

Yes, because England IS the US.
Author:  ed 'lim' smilde [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:
Sneakernets wrote:
This whole gun control thing isn't working.

Yes, because England IS the US.

Yes, because gun control automatically implies the US's gun control.

Compared to the US, the UK has very strict regulations on licensing and owning guns. It just goes to show that if you're willing to shoot someone, you're probably not going to respect your country's gun regulations. If you want to do something as drastic as kill someone, you'll be able to find a gun.
Author:  StrongRad [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
ed 'lim' smilde wrote:
Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:
Sneakernets wrote:
This whole gun control thing isn't working.

Yes, because England IS the US.

Yes, because gun control automatically implies the US's gun control.

Compared to the US, the UK has very strict regulations on licensing and owning guns. It just goes to show that if you're willing to shoot someone, you're probably not going to respect your country's gun regulations. If you want to do something as drastic as kill someone, you'll be able to find a gun.

EXACTLY!!!!
Gun control only works on people who want to obey the law.
Most of those people aren't going to do anything wrong with their guns anyway.
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
ed 'lim' smilde wrote:
Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest wrote:
Sneakernets wrote:
This whole gun control thing isn't working.

Yes, because England IS the US.

Yes, because gun control automatically implies the US's gun control.

Yes, because of the south and whenever a kid goes on a rampage.
Author:  furrykef [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 12:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
Cut it out, guys.
Author:  StrongRad [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
Since this was done while someone was rolling film, it should be a pretty easy capture and prosecution, right?
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
StrongRad wrote:
Since this was done while someone was rolling film, it should be a pretty easy capture and prosecution, right?

Robberies and crap are caught on film, and unless they find the robbers close to the crime scene, or pin it on some one else, they usually have a tough time figuring out who it is.

But since its a TV camera, and not a crappy $50 one like at the mini-mart down the street, they should have gotten a clearer shot...
Author:  bwave [ Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:38 am ]
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....liscense plate number or something...


Anyway, I've never felt that gun control was all that useful. The only thing it does is make sure that criminals are the only ones with access to certain weapons.
Author:  Biscuithead [ Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:23 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
bwave wrote:
....liscense plate number or something...


Anyway, I've never felt that gun control was all that useful. The only thing it does is make sure that serious criminals are the only ones with access to certain weapons.
Fixed.
With strict gun control, only the really serious criminals and terrorists have these weapons. And they would have those weapons anyway.
I sometimes hear news reports about armed robberies, people being held at gun-point and robbed, and street thugs running around with guns. These reports are always from America, and as far as I know, America has the least strict gun control in the world.
People don't need guns for protection if other people don't have guns to threaten them with. I think the whole protection thing wouldn't be a problem if petty criminals weren't allowed guns in the first place.
Author:  furrykef [ Wed Feb 06, 2008 1:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
I just vaulted part of the thread. Only serious discussion from this point forward, 'k? No more semantics games.
Author:  Sneakernets [ Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
Biscuithead wrote:
People don't need guns for protection if other people don't have guns to threaten them with. I think the whole protection thing wouldn't be a problem if petty criminals weren't allowed guns in the first place.


Here's the problem: In most criminal cases in which guns were used, guns were acquired illegally. The number of legal guns out there right now makes for startling amounts of weapons (I have 3, my grandfather has MANY, and that's nothing compared to my neighbors, multiply that by half of the American population- that's an estimate of the amount of LEGAL guns in the country). The ones sold behind closed doors probably number twice that. Petty criminals will get a gun anyway if they're "determined" enough, and then they're not so "petty" anymore. Vandalizing a wall is one thing. shooting out windows with a pellet gun is another.

It would take decades for guns to completely go away if such legislation were to be passed. and that is if everyone cooperated.While that time period goes on, criminals who have no care for the law will use weapons. That's why they're criminals in the first place. The people cannot expect criminals to follow future gun laws when criminals can't even follow past ones.

The world can't magically "delete" guns away. Even if it did, It doesn't stop a person from making their own, and using it in a crime. It has been done before.
Author:  StrongRad [ Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: BBC reporter threatened with a gun WHILST FILMING
Sneakernets wrote:
It would take decades for guns to completely go away if such legislation were to be passed. and that is if everyone cooperated.While that time period goes on, criminals who have no care for the law will use weapons. That's why they're criminals in the first place. The people cannot expect criminals to follow future gun laws when criminals can't even follow past ones.

This is what I've said pretty much all of my life. Although it's hokey, the NRA's "If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns" is very true.

Quote:
The world can't magically "delete" guns away.
Sadly, there are people that think banning firearms would do that.
They appear to live in a dream world where this thought process applies in the criminal mind:
Criminal: "I am going to buy this gun after going through a background check (I hope it goes through), then I'm going to rob a bank and maybe kill a couple of people. Oh beans! My background check prevented me from buying a gun. I guess I won't rob that bank anyway."

Riiiiiiiiight.

Even if it weren't for protection, I still enjoy owning firearms. I love to shoot. There's just something about the discipline it takes that really feels good.
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