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Does anyone here think that Europe hates the United States? Be honest and be sure to explain.

More importantly, does anyone think that there is any way for Europe and the U.S. to learn to get along together again?

I read an interesting book once, in which a person took a poll. It was called What Americans Think of the British, and vice versa. To sum up:

The american opinions were disgustingly stupid and essentially said "'Bout the same, but we is bigger and better". The Brits weren't very hateful toward the Americans, and if they did have something negative to say, it was "they're full of themselves".

Not...really? I have no idea what you're saying.

The american opinions were disgustingly stupid and essentially said "'Bout the same, but we is bigger and better". The Brits weren't very hateful toward the Americans, and if they did have something negative to say, it was "they're full of themselves".

No, I don't think Europe hates. Relations are a bit strained right now, but they don't hate us. The first thing the next president is going to have to do after getting out of Iraq, is to re-establish the ties we had back in the Clinton Administration.

when we're seeing so much progress,

Funny, I never figured BTG to be a "follow the crowd" kind of guy.

A.) Getting out of Iraq now, when we're seeing so much progress, would be disastrous. It would essentially mean that all the American and Iraqis who have died would have died for nothing.

B ) The reason people liked us when Clinton was president is because Bill let everyone walk all over us. Just because France or Russia disapproves of something doesn't make it wrong. Occasionally, if you want to survive as a nation, you do things that are unpopular, and that makes you disliked.

Funny, I never figured BTG to be a "follow the crowd" kind of guy.

A) So we just leave them there, let more die, for what cause? $$$ and KILLIN' BROWN PEOPLE

B ) oh my GOD are you kidding me. Okay, listen. I know that America's BETTER'n EVERYONE and all that. BUT. Bill didn't let anyone walk over us. And it wasn't a popularity contest, you moron. Jesus.

C) So anyone who has an opinion that is at all related to anyone else's is immediately a "follow the crowd kind of guy", huh? Or should I say anyone with an opinion that YOU disapprove of.

There are billions of people in the world, and in America, we're all fed the same info - so many of us are bound to have similar opinions, for different reasons, because of personal belief.

There are billions of people in the world, and in America, we're all fed the same info - so many of us are bound to have similar opinions, for different reasons, because of personal belief.

We are over there for money. It's kind of stupid to question that.

Ed, the media glorifies the war in Iraq and says that we're doing the right thing. And I'm going to guess (NOW THIS IS JUST A HUNCH) that Soilders are given the same glorification about what they're doing so that they're more motivated to do it.

Clever indeed, but it certainly doesn't contribute to the discussion now does it? Nu-uh.

If they hate us, it's because we get Brawl first.

What happened to all the people on Europe who used to post here? They should come to this thread.

Author:	CaptainPastHisPrime [ Thu Feb 07, 2008 4:07 am ]
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Does anyone here think that Europe hates the United States? Be honest and be sure to explain. More importantly, does anyone think that there is any way for Europe and the U.S. to learn to get along together again?

Author:	Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:01 am ]
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CaptainPastHisPrime wrote: Does anyone here think that Europe hates the United States? Be honest and be sure to explain. More importantly, does anyone think that there is any way for Europe and the U.S. to learn to get along together again? Yes, after having to had call on us for help during WW2 and then letting the Russians take Berlin instead of their gracious crumpet or crescent munching soldires, they had no choice but to feel hatred after looking like the biggest bunch of pansies/weaklings on the planet. And to get back at us, they try to back out their support in the war in Iraq, leaving only a few smaller nations helping us out. So we hate them for being all around snobs, and they hate us for helping them; like how a 6 year old boy would react to a 5 year old girl fighting his battles for him.

Author:	Beyond the Grave [ Thu Feb 07, 2008 5:31 am ]
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No, I don't think Europe hates. Relations are a bit strained right now, but they don't hate us. The first thing the next president is going to have to do after getting out of Iraq, is to re-establish the ties we had back in the Clinton Administration.

Author:	The Noid [ Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:50 am ]
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The whole rest of the world hates us.

Author:	ed 'lim' smilde [ Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:33 pm ]
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Europeans on the Internet hate us. But that probably doesn't give the greatest representation of them.

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Author:	Rusty [ Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:48 pm ]
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I read an interesting book once, in which a person took a poll. It was called What Americans Think of the British, and vice versa. To sum up: The american opinions were disgustingly stupid and essentially said "'Bout the same, but we is bigger and better". The Brits weren't very hateful toward the Americans, and if they did have something negative to say, it was "they're full of themselves". Accurate.

Author:	Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:20 am ]
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Rusty wrote: I read an interesting book once, in which a person took a poll. It was called What Americans Think of the British, and vice versa. To sum up: The american opinions were disgustingly stupid and essentially said "'Bout the same, but we is bigger and better". The Brits weren't very hateful toward the Americans, and if they did have something negative to say, it was "they're full of themselves". The same could be said about any two nationalities/creeds/races/whatever form of belief, dress, style, or location one may have. That paragraph above IS the meaning of life.

Author:	Rusty [ Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:24 am ]
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Not...really? I have no idea what you're saying.

Author:	Rusty [ Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:23 am ]
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Still not getting you.

Author:	this-guy [ Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:44 am ]
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Any two (groups of) people are likely to have negative opinions on one another.

Author:	lahimatoa [ Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:34 pm ]
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BTG wrote: No, I don't think Europe hates. Relations are a bit strained right now, but they don't hate us. The first thing the next president is going to have to do after getting out of Iraq, is to re-establish the ties we had back in the Clinton Administration. A.) Getting out of Iraq now, when we're seeing so much progress, would be disastrous. It would essentially mean that all the American and Iraqis who have died would have died for nothing. B.) The reason people liked us when Clinton was president is because Bill let everyone walk all over us. Just because France or Russia disapproves of something doesn't make it wrong. Occasionally, if you want to survive as a nation, you do things that are unpopular, and that makes you disliked. Funny, I never figured BTG to be a "follow the crowd" kind of guy.

Author:	Beyond the Grave [ Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:27 pm ]
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lahimatoa wrote: when we're seeing so much progress, What progress? Yes we got Saddam out of power, but we did it on a lie. He never had any WMDs. I guarantee the only reason he said he did was to keep Iran at bay. It's still a state of anarchy over there. Yes the surge worked, but only in the areas that we can patrol. When we are in town, the insurgents are quiet, but once we leave they start up again. At least Saddam was able to control the Shi'ites and Sunnis at all times. And while we have been busy trying to hold the ocean back with a broom, the Taliban has reared it's ugly head in Afghanistan again. To quote Thomas Hobbes "The dangers of Anarchy are greater than those of tyranny." lahimatoa wrote: Funny, I never figured BTG to be a "follow the crowd" kind of guy. I'm not. I've been against the war since day one. I hate war period. I view it as the ultimate failure of mankind.

Author:	Rusty [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:32 am ]
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lahimatoa wrote: A.) Getting out of Iraq now, when we're seeing so much progress, would be disastrous. It would essentially mean that all the American and Iraqis who have died would have died for nothing. B ) The reason people liked us when Clinton was president is because Bill let everyone walk all over us. Just because France or Russia disapproves of something doesn't make it wrong. Occasionally, if you want to survive as a nation, you do things that are unpopular, and that makes you disliked. Funny, I never figured BTG to be a "follow the crowd" kind of guy. You hear that sound? That loud sound coming from the west? Sounds kind of like a nuclear bomb going off? That's my face going through the heads of myself, my future wife, my future children, etc. A) So we just leave them there, let more die, for what cause? $$$ and KILLIN' BROWN PEOPLE B ) oh my GOD are you kidding me. Okay, listen. I know that America's BETTER'n EVERYONE and all that. BUT. Bill didn't let anyone walk over us. And it wasn't a popularity contest, you moron. Jesus. C) So anyone who has an opinion that is at all related to anyone else's is immediately a "follow the crowd kind of guy", huh? Or should I say anyone with an opinion that YOU disapprove of. There are billions of people in the world, and in America, we're all fed the same info - so many of us are bound to have similar opinions, for different reasons, because of personal belief.

Author:	gunluva [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:18 am ]
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Hey, Rusty, I ain't been here long, but I've come to the conclusion that you're easily angered. Calm down a bit.

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Author:	Biscuithead [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:41 am ]
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Rusty wrote: A) So we just leave them there, let more die, for what cause? $$$ and KILLIN' BROWN PEOPLE B ) oh my GOD are you kidding me. Okay, listen. I know that America's BETTER'n EVERYONE and all that. BUT. Bill didn't let anyone walk over us. And it wasn't a popularity contest, you moron. Jesus. C) So anyone who has an opinion that is at all related to anyone else's is immediately a "follow the crowd kind of guy", huh? Or should I say anyone with an opinion that YOU disapprove of. There are billions of people in the world, and in America, we're all fed the same info - so many of us are bound to have similar opinions, for different reasons, because of personal belief. A) Greed and racism. B) Arrogance. C) Bigotry. D) Blind acceptance of the info you are "fed". Now I realise a lot of this post was sarcastic, but it does serve to demonstrate the stereotypical view a lot of people have of Americans. It's not just in Europe, I actually know a couple of people who hate all things American, mainly because of the greed and arrogance that they view all Americans as having. I'm sure this happens all over the world (except maybe within the U.S.), and is only made worse by the actions of the U.S. government. For example, many people I know (including myself) view the war in Iraq as an act of greed and refusal to accept the beliefs of others. So yeah, for some people, America has a bad image, and there are groups of people everywhere who hate it. But I voted 'no' above, because it is only small groups of people who actually believe this. The whole of Europe definitely does not hate the U.S.

Author:	ed 'lim' smilde [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:57 pm ]
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Rusty wrote: There are billions of people in the world, and in America, we're all fed the same info - so many of us are bound to have similar opinions, for different reasons, because of personal belief. Yes, we're all fed the same old info on the news about how nothing is happening in Iraq and it's a complete failure and we're killing people because we hate Arabs and want cheap oil. Talk to any soldier, and it's a completely different story.

Author:	lahimatoa [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:32 pm ]
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Rusty, chill.

Author:	Rusty [ Sat Feb 09, 2008 9:55 pm ]
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Ed, the media glorifies the war in Iraq and says that we're doing the right thing. And I'm going to guess (NOW THIS IS JUST A HUNCH) that Soilders are given the same glorification about what they're doing so that they're more motivated to do it. We are over there for money. It's kind of stupid to question that. And biscuithead, I stopped caring after "sterotypical views" because you totally missed the point of my post. I can't really say much more about Europe, except for that I think they do dislike us, but for the right reasons.

Author:	Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:12 am ]
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Rusty wrote: We are over there for money. It's kind of stupid to question that. Don't we get, like, $30,000 dollars of debt for every hour that we're still there? How the heck is that profitable? No amount of oil, blood, or nuclear weapons can offset that cost. Infact: CURRENT NATIONAL DEBT IS:

Author:	Rusty [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:14 am ]
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I don't think so. But if that's true, then we are still making a lot more money off what we're doing over there,

Author:	ed 'lim' smilde [ Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:47 am ]
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Rusty wrote: Ed, the media glorifies the war in Iraq and says that we're doing the right thing. And I'm going to guess (NOW THIS IS JUST A HUNCH) that Soilders are given the same glorification about what they're doing so that they're more motivated to do it. It's not so much that the news makes it seem like a bad idea. It's just that they make it seem like a complete failure and show everything bad that is going on. Last soldier I met said something like "Well, when I first got back home, I turned on the TV and basically 'I gotta get back over there! When I left, we were doing fine, but now we're losing!'" I think he said he and his friends have stopped watching the news altogether because of how inaccurate it is on the war. That might be a little extreme, but the point is, the people sitting at home watching TV and the people actually out there fighting aren't thinking the same thing.

Author:	lahimatoa [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:40 am ]
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Rusty, I'd reply to your post, but I'm waiting for assurances I won't be banned for calling you an ignorant loser first. In answer to the topic question, I believe the query is too broad. "Europe" consists of millions of people, all with different personalities and values. "Europe" does not hate us, just as "Europe" does not love us.

Author:	Color Printer [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:29 am ]
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If they hate us, it's because we get Brawl first.

Author:	AbuGrape45 [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:32 am ]
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Clever indeed, but it certainly doesn't contribute to the discussion now does it? Nu-uh.

Author:	Color Printer [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:40 am ]
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AbuGrape45 wrote: Clever indeed, but it certainly doesn't contribute to the discussion now does it? Nu-uh. How ironic, neither did that. But seriously, Europe doesn't hate us. They don't love us, but they don't feel the need to completely fight against us. Because of the wars and such going on, some ties between countries are barely there. I know this has already been said, but I'm just giving my two cents.

Author:	ed 'lim' smilde [ Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:34 pm ]
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What happened to all the people on Europe who used to post here? They should come to this thread.

Author:	DS_Kid [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:05 am ]
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Color Printer wrote: If they hate us, it's because we get Brawl first. Heh. I'd say that there's a bit of dislike towards the United States, but it's nothing really hate-worthy. It'd depend on the type of person you would ask the question to, though the majority would probably say we're fine.

Author:	Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:04 am ]
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ed 'lim' smilde wrote: What happened to all the people on Europe who used to post here? They should come to this thread. They only post in Getting to know you.

Author:	Rusty [ Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:51 am ]
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If you really wanted to generalize, they've got a little dislike about the way we do things. Now, I don't really believe in saying something like that, as that would be eliminating the whole "individual" aspect. But I suppose it could be said for many people in Europe.