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Author:  ed 'lim' smilde [ Sat Feb 23, 2008 4:06 pm ]
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The Noid wrote:
I don't get why everybody makes such a big deal out of people using other people's words in speeches, especially when you use your rival's words. It's just basically saying "screw you, I'm gonna win, here's your catchphrase comin' outta my mouth to stick it to you" and plagiarism shouldn't be brought into it.

Deval is a cool name.
Hillary tried to imitate Barack once., and no one went along with it.. turns out, 'Yes we will' = fail.
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:47 am ]
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Darn it, Rhode Island and Ohio... You idiots!
Author:  The Noid [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:44 am ]
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Rhode Island was what Hillary won? I wouldn't be proud of that, thsat should have like, five delegates. It has more then I'm really surprised.

But Ohio..that's gonna be a problem.

Great job Homerun's state >: (
Author:  Homerun Starrer [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 4:11 pm ]
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The Noid wrote:
Great job Homerun's state >: (

I know, right? D: Way to go, everyone else in Ohio.

To make things worse, I'm pretty sure no president in the last 50 or so years has won the nomination without winning Ohio. This does not bode well. Honestly though, I'll be happy if anybody but Hilary wins.
Author:  HHFOV [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:14 pm ]
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Yeah, I'm from Ohio too.

Sorry guys.

Though I sort of deep down hope that Hillary will win so it'll make it easier for the Republican nominee to win.
Author:  The Noid [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:35 pm ]
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Ohio's the new Hugo.

So did Obama win Texas? Because I'm hearing different things on this.
Author:  furrykef [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:41 pm ]
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Texas is the new Florida?
Author:  Sneakernets [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:44 pm ]
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The Hillary hate seems to be pretty universal among the Internet crowd. I don't blame them, either.

I'm hoping Obama wins it, if only to see the [rule 6]s on FOX News have aneurysms live on air.
Author:  The Noid [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 9:51 pm ]
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Well of course the Internet hates her, she opposes video games. And that's like saying that everything you believe in is wrong and you're a stupid-mclameface on the Internet.
Author:  furrykef [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:00 pm ]
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The Noid wrote:
Well of course the Internet hates her, she opposes video games.


Heh, I actually wanted to vote for Bush (wasn't legal age yet) in the 2000 election because I didn't want Lieberman as VP for that reason. Of course, now I realize that there is more to life than video games, and what's more, Lieberman would have been less powerful as VP than as Senator anyway.

- Kef
Author:  HHFOV [ Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:12 pm ]
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The Noid wrote:
Ohio's the new Hugo.

So did Obama win Texas? Because I'm hearing different things on this.
Hillary won.
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:10 am ]
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HipHoppityFrogOfValue wrote:
The Noid wrote:
Ohio's the new Hugo.

So did Obama win Texas? Because I'm hearing different things on this.
Hillary won.

DARN MY STATE!
Author:  Rusty [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:42 am ]
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THIS IS QUITE HOMOSEXUAL.
Author:  StrongRad [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:07 am ]
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Rusty wrote:
THIS IS QUITE HOMOSEXUAL.

How?
I'm not following what you're saying.
Author:  Acekirby [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:59 am ]
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^ *sigh* replace homosexual with "gay". Remember Rusty's age. Think of it as being an insult.
Author:  Rusty [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:00 am ]
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Yeah, but at least I have class, Ace.

Most kids my age actually call people "Bundle of sticks" and stuff like that. Ticks me off.

EDIT: I do not approve of the cigarette, eh? censor.

EDIT2: WHAT. You censor fag00t too?
Author:  Acekirby [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:01 am ]
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Well it was clever, I was more surprised Rad didn't get it.

I want Obama to win because Hillary winning is like signing a death warrant for the Democrats this election.
Author:  Rusty [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:03 am ]
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Acekirby wrote:
I want Obama to win because Hillary winning is like signing a death warrant for the Democrats this election.


Mainly this, also, HE GOT BIG EARS SO HE HEARS WHAT PEOPLE WANT LIKE AN ELEPHANT

ALSO:

Hilary's campaign shops any footage they put out of Obama to make him look blacker. That's right. They actually AMPLIFY the blackness of his skin in anti-Obama commercials.

This is the woman that won Ohio and Texas.

WHAT, AMERICA
Author:  furrykef [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:07 am ]
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Rusty wrote:
EDIT: I do not approve of the cigarette, eh? censor.

EDIT2: WHAT. You censor fag00t too?


And we need these uncensored because...?
Author:  StrongRad [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 11:05 pm ]
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Rusty wrote:
This is the woman that won Ohio and Texas.


The "3 AM" ad also played well.
Rule 1 of politics, if you need votes, mention "your children". Not enough people hate children to offset the uptight soccer mom demographic.
Author:  HHFOV [ Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:07 am ]
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Rusty wrote:
Acekirby wrote:
I want Obama to win because Hillary winning is like signing a death warrant for the Democrats this election.


Mainly this, also, HE GOT BIG EARS SO HE HEARS WHAT PEOPLE WANT LIKE AN ELEPHANT

ALSO:

Hilary's campaign shops any footage they put out of Obama to make him look blacker. That's right. They actually AMPLIFY the blackness of his skin in anti-Obama commercials.
Source?

(I'm not disputing this; in fact, I think it's highly likely, I just want to see where you're coming from with this.)
Author:  Rusty [ Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:31 am ]
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http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/0 ... inton.html
Author:  Homerun Starrer [ Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:07 pm ]
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I don't want to play devil's advocate here, but notice how the background around him is darker, too. It could be a product of poor video quality.

I mean, I don't like Hil either, but I'm just saying, consider all the options first. Besides, I can't see why making him look blacker would discourage people from voting for him.
Author:  furrykef [ Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:08 pm ]
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It isn't necessarily deliberate. Color correction is a big problem... if you take a screenshot of something, the colors you see may not be the colors you see when you print. Likewise, if you scan, the colors may not be the same. Color correction is one of the main uses of Photoshop, but not everybody knows how to do it well or even that it might be necessary. It's possible that whoever worked on the photograph honestly did not know what Obama's skin tone was. Or even if it was deliberately manipulated that way, that doesn't mean that the higher-ups approved it... they might have simply not noticed. After all, it only takes one guy to make a change like that. I could do it in my sleep.

Of course, if they are deliberately doing that, it's pretty low... and pretty stupid. I doubt anybody who was going to support Obama would change his mind because his skin was apparently a little darker than they thought. Most racists don't care what your skin tone is, and if you're not a racist, it's irrelevant anyway.

- Kef
Author:  StrongRad [ Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:14 pm ]
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furrykef wrote:
It isn't necessarily deliberate. Color correction is a big problem... if you take a screenshot of something, the colors you see may not be the colors you see when you print. Likewise, if you scan, the colors may not be the same. Color correction is one of the main uses of Photoshop, but not everybody knows how to do it well or even that it might be necessary. It's possible that whoever worked on the photograph honestly did not know what Obama's skin tone was. Or even if it was deliberately manipulated that way, that doesn't mean that the higher-ups approved it... they might have simply not noticed. After all, it only takes one guy to make a change like that. I could do it in my sleep.

Of course, if they are deliberately doing that, it's pretty low... and pretty stupid. I doubt anybody who was going to support Obama would change his mind because his skin was apparently a little darker than they thought. Most racists don't care what your skin tone is, and if you're not a racist, it's irrelevant anyway.

- Kef

It's 3 AM. Your children are in bed, asleep. Who do you want editing your pictures for you?

What do you guys think of the debacle in Florida and Michigan?
The rumor is that the republicans moved up Florida's primary, knowing full well that it would strip the democrats of their delegates in August. However, checking into this further, I see that democrats voted for the bill to move up the primary, too.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. What do the democrats need to do with the voters in Florida and Michigan?
Hillary won Michigan, but she also ran unopposed there. She won Florida as well, but she was the only one to visit the state because the other candidates knew the state wouldn't count.
Author:  The Noid [ Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:29 pm ]
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Crist sounds really annoying when he's talking about how "the people's vote isn't getting counted, how dare them". Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Florida, was he?

I don't want that guy to be Vice President if McCain picks him (and wins, but we're a looong way from there).
Author:  Acekirby [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:20 am ]
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StrongRad wrote:
It's 3 AM. Your children are in bed, asleep. Who do you want editing your pictures for you?

lol. I saw that ad on the Daily Show.

It's very similar to one Mondale ran during his election.

The Noid wrote:
Crist

???
Author:  The Noid [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:28 am ]
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Charlie Crist, some annoying looking white guy that's the govenor of Florida or something that has been talking or been the subject of talks of McCain's vp. Wexler is a much better Florida based-potician.
Author:  ed 'lim' smilde [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:58 am ]
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Why would he pick a left-wing guy as his running mate, though?
Author:  Word Up [ Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:02 am ]
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Not a fan of either of them, but Obama's going to win the whole election, so... *picks Obama*
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