Well said. You knew how to word my opinion, when I did not.

My vision is augmented.

Personally, I wouldn't. It's just my personal belief that messing with that sort of stuff is kinda like 'cheating'. Despite 'normal society's' standards, I truly don't believe there's anything wrong with kids with Down's Syndrome. It's just a different state of being that we're slowly becoming more adapted to. Anyway, if I had enough money to get genetic engineering, I think it'd be better spent learning about my disabled child. That's just me, though.

Exactly. Besides, who's to say what's "wrong" with a person?
I saw some film from the 30's about using genetic stocks to cure the wrongs of the world, but I didn't understand it because it was in German...

Sure, it might be "slippery slope", but if we start getting rid of things like Down's Syndrome or Autism by screwing with people's genes, whose to say we don't try to cure things like "gay"
(if there's a gene that causes people to be gay), or obesity, or shortness, or brown hair?..

I'm glad I didn't add "alcoholism". I don't want to make anyone an alcoholic.

Exactly. Besides, who's to say what's "wrong" with a person?
I saw some film from the 30's about using genetic stocks to cure the wrongs of the world, but I didn't understand it because it was in German...

Sure, it might be "slippery slope", but if we start getting rid of things like Down's Syndrome or Autism by screwing with people's genes, whose to say we don't try to cure things like "gay"
(if there's a gene that causes people to be gay), or obesity, or shortness, or brown hair?..

It's one thing to screw with personality traits, and another thing entirely to cure diseases. If you were told your kid would have a genetic predisposition to throat cancer or Alzheimer's or Lou Gehrig's disease or something, and it could be cured, you can't tell me you'd let them get the disease. That would just be cruel.

I also vote we cure obesity and alcoholism, those are also diseases. And with America's collective lazy butt not making any efforts to get healthy, maybe the only way back to health is by cheating.

You know, I see that argument all the time, but I don't buy it. Sure, there might be some, and there might be more dumpster babies, but with the "make it legal and it'll be easy to regulate" logic, we should also make prostitution, cocaine, and meth production legal.

I'm actually for making all three of those things legal, for a variety of reasons, but that's a different topic...

The real bottom line is, either there can be illegal abortion with lots of complications and everyone getting hurt, or there can be legal, safe abortion that may offend a few people.

I'm actually for making all three of those things legal, for a variety of reasons, but that's a different topic...

I DO have a problem with shoving all of those perfectly good Dead Fetus' into the crematory instead of putting them to good use as Stem Cell research.

In 2000, there were 1,360,160[1] fetus' aborted that COULD have gone towards stem cell research and had actually done something worthwhile, (even in before-birthness), but all went into the fryer. Imagine; Over a million dead babies burning instead of being used to solve the genetic and viral diseases that plague humanity today.

But no, no, of course its Moral to waste perfectly good dead fetus' in a way that doesn't benefit society than using them in a way that does. Yeah, makes perfect sense.

I really don't like abortion, but I cannot disagree with you here.
I'm not comfortable with creating fetuses for stem cell research, but if a fetus is going to be destroyed, like one from an abortion (can stem cells be harvested from them?) or ones created for in vitro fertilization, why not put it to some good?
Abortion is a waste of life, but ignoring any potential benefit from destroying the life is a bigger waste.
This isn't about stem cells or abortion, though, so toastpaint....
How do you people feel about genetically engineered food?
We've been going big on humans here, but how about food?

Personally, I don't have too much of a problem with it. We've been genetically engineering food for years (the hybrid seed corns that produce most of our corn supply are a prime example).

I really don't like abortion, but I cannot disagree with you here.
I'm not comfortable with creating fetuses for stem cell research, but if a fetus is going to be destroyed, like one from an abortion (can stem cells be harvested from them?) or ones created for in vitro fertilization, why not put it to some good?
Abortion is a waste of life, but ignoring any potential benefit from destroying the life is a bigger waste.

Alcoholism is a disease....

Stem Cell research... viral diseases.

Sorry to keep going off topic, but I have two words to say on the subect: bone marrow. Adult bone marrow has stem cells in it. These are different to embyonic stem cells, but recent research show they can be made to revert back to embryonic form. If we put more research into this type of stem cell research the moral dilemma could be avoided completely.

There is nothing wrong with abortion! However, I DO have a problem with shoving all of those perfectly good Dead Fetus' into the crematory instead of putting them to good use as Stem Cell research.

In 2000, there were 1,360,160[1] fetus' aborted that COULD have gone towards stem cell research and had actually done something worthwhile, (even in before-birthness), but all went into the fryer. Imagine; Over a million dead babies burning instead of being used to solve the genetic and viral diseases that plague humanity today.

But no, no, of course its Moral to waste perfectly good dead fetus' in a way that doesn't benefit society than using them in a way that does. Yeah, makes perfect sense.

There is nothing wrong with abortion!

...a million dead babies...

but it's keeping them from a life of misery, and the babies that were killed are being burned instead of put to use.

Where have you been all my life?

Just keeps getting better and better.