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Author:  So and So [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:48 am ]
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Do you believe in Karma?
Author:  Jerome [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:48 am ]
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The vengeful elephant?


(Anyone who isn't Australian and hasn't seen those Vanilla Coke commercials with Kamahl won't get that joke)
Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:18 am ]
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karma is real. karma effects your aurora, which effects your position with spiritual beings, which effects if they kill you, or obey you, which effects if you watch fareheit 9/11, which effects if michael moore gets richer, which effects if moore eats, which effects if he gets fatter, which effects if he dies of being too fat than he allready is, which effects if his soul goes to heaven or hell, which effects if he will be burninated for an eternity, which effects if trogdor gets to burninate michale moor, which effects if one more pesant lives or dies, which effects if another child is born. there, ive just linked karma to birth. send that into mad magazine!
Author:  Rob [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:22 am ]
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Jerome wrote:
The vengeful elephant?


(Anyone who isn't Australian and hasn't seen those Vanilla Coke commercials with Kamahl won't get that joke)


Two words about that ad: Very Annoying.
Author:  Jerome [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:23 am ]
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Rainer wrote:
Jerome wrote:
The vengeful elephant?


(Anyone who isn't Australian and hasn't seen those Vanilla Coke commercials with Kamahl won't get that joke)


Two words about that ad: Very Annoying.


Kaaarma, Kaaarma, Karma the vengeful elephannnt...
Author:  furrykef [ Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:55 pm ]
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To Buddhists (as opposed to Hinduists), karma means "action".

Action is real, therefore, karma is real ;)
Author:  Evin290 [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:01 am ]
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Modestly Hot Guy wrote:
karma is real. karma effects your aurora, which effects your position with spiritual beings, which effects if they kill you, or obey you, which effects if you watch fareheit 9/11, which effects if michael moore gets richer, which effects if moore eats, which effects if he gets fatter, which effects if he dies of being too fat than he allready is, which effects if his soul goes to heaven or hell, which effects if he will be burninated for an eternity, which effects if trogdor gets to burninate michale moor, which effects if one more pesant lives or dies, which effects if another child is born. there, ive just linked karma to birth. send that into mad magazine!

I think you mean aura. Aurora is a light phenomenon on the poles.

Anyway, besides your random stab at the fact that someone you don't like because he speaks his mind happens to be overweight, why don't you give some reasoning behind you ideas?

I personally do not think karma exists. There are plenty of people who do bad things and get away with it, and there are plenty of people who do good things and never get rewarded.
Author:  furrykef [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:15 am ]
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evin290 wrote:
I personally do not think karma exists. There are plenty of people who do bad things and get away with it, and there are plenty of people who do good things and never get rewarded.


Most people who do bad things have problems. So I would not really think many people truly get away with it. To put it another way, few criminals are happy. So long as they maintain a criminal state of mind, they cannot be happy. If that's not punishment, what is?

For people who do good, in the same vein, there's the old maxim, "virtue is its own reward".
Author:  Evin290 [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:19 am ]
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I know that that's normally the case, but that's only because of our own minds. If you're idea of karma is that "if you do good things, you'll be happy" then that's true because when you do good things, you are happy. And when you do bad things, you're generally unhappy. That's what guilt and pride are.

I hate to quote the dictionary again, but...
The Dictionary wrote:
The total effect of a person's actions and conduct during the successive phases of the person's existence, regarded as determining the person's destiny.

That's not just generally being happy or sad. That's actually affecting what happens in the future because of what you do in the present.

And what about sociopaths? They can do horrible things and feel no remorse.
Author:  furrykef [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:32 am ]
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I wouldn't really trust a dictionary's definition of karma because it would be slanted toward a "western" definition.

For example, from Wikipedia, about the Hinduist view of karma:

Wikipedia wrote:
As Satguru Sivaya Subramuniyaswami explains it, unkindness yields spoiled fruits, called papa and good deeds bring forth sweet fruits, called punya. He further notes that as one acts, so does he become. One becomes virtuous by virtuous action, bad by bad action."


This is kind of a blend of the notions of my post and the more conventional notion of karma (i.e., karma as the West usually understands it).

In both Hinduism and some kinds of Buddhism, karma can also affect future lives as well as the present lives. This goes beyond the simplistic "if you're bad, you come back as a bug", of course.

Personally I think the word "karma" is loaded yet meaningless. It's a word one uses more often to sound cool than to actually communicate a point. ;)

- Kef
Author:  Didymus [ Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:59 am ]
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I.e., you shall know a tree by the fruit it bears.
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