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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:33 pm ] |
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It looks like, as of now the Pope is in his last days. He recieved last rites last night. Post what you think Edit: what did you do with your vacation IJ, go to grammar nazi camp? |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:56 pm ] |
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Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote: He recieved last rights last night.
Last rites. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:11 pm ] |
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Well, techinally, it's called the annointing of the sick. Because you can recieve it actually more than once. But it is really sad. I will be really sad when he does die, he did a lot of things for the Church. I can only hope that our next Pope can lead us into a new age, and possibly modernize some of the teachings. |
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| Author: | Mr. Sparkle [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:00 pm ] |
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I would like to see a pope from a third-world country so that he could teach deeply religious people to care more for the poor not same-sex marriage. |
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| Author: | breadtangle o' pizza [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:36 pm ] |
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There were reports about an hour ago that he died. The Vatican has denied these reports. [monty python] Personally, I think he's just sleeping. [/monty python] |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:45 pm ] |
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When I saw a retrospective of his life on the morning news I gained a lot of respect for him. I grew up (14 years and all) with him already on his slow decline, not when he did great things for the church or (my personal favorite) told roman catholics to think of the jews as your "elder brothers in faith" |
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| Author: | Shopiom [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:56 pm ] |
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I think that's stupid that they're trying to keep the pope alive! I mean, if someone is old and it's their time to die, you should just let them die. If the pope is ready to die, they shouldn't try to keep him alive. |
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| Author: | Stu [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:37 pm ] |
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That's a pretty subjective statement... Who is to say when it is or isn't time for someone to die? I agree that there are points where a doctor can say "there isn't anything else we can do for him". But I was under the impression that they (being the Pope's docters) were just taking care of an old, sick man. |
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| Author: | ModestlyHotGirl [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:53 pm ] |
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I've got to agree with Stu here. Again. From what I know, the Pope has had Parkinson's disease for years, which is debilitating but not ultimately life-threatening. (Michael J Fox has had it for a long time, too, and he isn't dying.) Right now he has a urinary tract infection, which is what he's being treated for. And getting the last rites doesn't necessarily mean anything; he's had them a few times before. He's an old, sick man, and his doctors are just treating him. I don't think they're going to any extremes to keep him alive. His time will come soon, and there's not a heck of a lot anyone can do about it. |
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| Author: | Stu [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:54 pm ] |
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you're just trying to get on my good side...
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| Author: | ModestlyHotGirl [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:09 pm ] |
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Who is this Lower-Case-S Stu impostor?! Well, whoever he is, he sounds like a troublemaker. Don't listen to him, guys! Okay, sorry. The Pope. Right, right. |
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| Author: | AgentSeethroo [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:41 pm ] |
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ModestlyHotGirl wrote: Okay, sorry. The Pope. Right, right.
Toast Paint, dangit. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:43 pm ] |
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That's why it's now called Annointing of the Sick instead of Last Rites. |
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| Author: | Shopiom [ Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:07 pm ] |
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I'm saying that's stupid that they gave the pope a respirator. I mean, he's an old man, and he's pretty much ready to die. I could understand if they gave a 10 year old a respirator, but the pope's time has come and they should just let him die. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Sat Apr 02, 2005 1:45 am ] |
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Have you been around many hospice care situations? The oxygen is there to keep the patient comfortable, not to keep them alive, per se. Hospice patients are almost always put on oxygen in some way. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:55 am ] |
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Didymus wrote: Have you been around many hospice care situations? The oxygen is there to keep the patient comfortable, not to keep them alive, per se. Hospice patients are almost always put on oxygen in some way. Yeah, I worked in a senior living/ rehabilitation place a couple years ago, and almost all of them had one. But in regards to the Pope, I hope that the selection doesn't cause a split in the beliefs. Like between teaching the old school ways, or teaching a modernized way.
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:06 pm ] |
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I don't think that'll happen, Christianity has already gone through enough splitting over differences in beliefes. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:00 pm ] |
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Well, it's almost noon, and there was supposed to be a message from the Vatican like two hours ago. They keep pushing it back. I think that the Pope will not last the end of the day. He apperently keeps coming in and out of consciousness. |
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| Author: | Funkmaster Hoff [ Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:02 pm ] |
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Although I don't agree with him on a number of subjects, I respect him a lot. He's done a lot of great things. Typical response at my church: Pfft. Who cares, we're Presbyterian. Yay for Presbyterianismalskjfiaslkfjda |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Sat Apr 02, 2005 5:05 pm ] |
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The thing is, the Pope tried to reach out to others of different beliefs. The Pope has done so many grea things that he has made me proud to be a Catholic. |
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| Author: | Jitka [ Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:35 pm ] |
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Just wanted to tell anybody who didn't know, the Pope died at about 2:27 P.M. today. |
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| Author: | Mr. Sparkle [ Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:43 pm ] |
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What do you guys want to see in the next pope? I want someone young. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:25 pm ] |
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One that will repeal the edict the Council of Trent. But that's not likely to happen. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:21 am ] |
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Didymus wrote: One that will repeal the edict the Council of Trent. But that's not likely to happen. What happened there? I probably learned this in school and in Church, but forgot. As for John Paul, at least he is one with the Lord now.
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| Author: | Didymus [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:15 am ] |
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The Council of Trent basically declared that anyone who believes in Protestant doctrine and/or are not in communion with the Roman Church are heretics and damned to hell. Now I understand that Vatican II tried to correct some of that error, but it left the original document of the COT in place, meaning that, when you get right down to it, we Protestants are still heretics in the eyes of the Roman Church. It will be interesting to see how things develop over the next 50 years or so. I have respect for Pope John Paul II, though. He was always a very conscientious man and respectful of other religions. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:18 am ] |
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Well, Didymus, then I too hope that they repeal that. It makes no sense. |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:42 am ] |
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This is just what humans think mind you, who knows what God considers bad. |
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| Author: | Simon Zeno [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:00 am ] |
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Mr. Sparkle wrote: What do you guys want to see in the next pope? I want someone young.
There was an Onion article about that a few weeks ago. |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:39 am ] |
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I'd like to see an American make the papicy but that's not likely to happen. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:49 pm ] |
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Prof. Tor Coolguy wrote: I'd like to see an American make the papicy but that's not likely to happen. No, it's almost impossible that it's going to happen. I was watching the news, and they were talking about that, and they said tht it was amost impossible that it was going to happen
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