FDR is my personal preference, though with the dingbats who've become president, it wasn't a tough choice.
FDR was pretty hardcore, I've read that he [omitted]
[Edit by InterruptorJones: There was a line there, and you crossed it. Watch yourself.]
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| Author: | Funkmaster Hoff [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:08 pm ] |
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Who, in your opinion was/is the greatest president ever in the history of the United States? I say FDR. Got us through the depression, and a world war. Was a great leader, and a great inspiration for American people. |
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| Author: | ed 'lim' smilde [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:21 pm ] |
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Ronald Regan was a good one... But I'm not into history-type stuff |
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| Author: | Beyond the Grave [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:46 pm ] |
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How about Abraham Lincoln. He led this nation through the darkest part of it existance, the Civil War and he freed the slaves. |
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| Author: | thefreakyblueman [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:59 pm ] |
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I'ma go with the easy answer and say Kennedy. He got us from the moon, and pretty much prevented Armageddon. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:34 pm ] |
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TO THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!! Toss up between Lincoln and FDR. Although, if you consider FDR's personal obstacles (his disability), then I'd have to go with FDR. |
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| Author: | Ricksea [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:43 pm ] |
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At least FDR was generally admired. You have to remember that Lincoln was not a popular president. He still was able to demolish slavery and further America while being hated by the country. Did you know that the "Philadelphia State Journal" called him "hatchet ugly" and said that he "abused the privalege of being ugly"? |
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| Author: | Simon Zeno [ Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:49 pm ] |
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FDR also did a bunch of not-so-nice things... you just don't hear about it. There's some show coming on about it on the History Channel today. |
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| Author: | Beyond the Grave [ Sun Apr 17, 2005 3:51 am ] |
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Ricksea wrote: At least FDR was generally admired. You have to remember that Lincoln was not a popular president. He still was able to demolish slavery and further America while being hated by the country.
Did you know that the "Philadelphia State Journal" called him "hatchet ugly" and said that he "abused the privalege of being ugly"? He was only hated by the South, the North liked him and what he stood for. |
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| Author: | thefreakyblueman [ Sun Apr 17, 2005 4:04 am ] |
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Simon Zeno wrote: FDR also did a bunch of not-so-nice things... you just don't hear about it. There's some show coming on about it on the History Channel today.
Aye, I'm recording the 1:00 showing of that, although I think that the only "not so nice" thing that FDR was accused of was not doing the most he could in preventing the Pearl Harbor attack (though it's mostly a conspiracy theory). |
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| Author: | Evin290 [ Sun Apr 17, 2005 1:11 pm ] |
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I think one of the reasons that Lincoln and Kennedy are often considered the "best" presidents is not only because they did great things, but also because they were both assassinated. But then again, Garfield and McKinley don't always come to mind when considering the "best" president. Actually, if it weren't for that whole watergate thing, Nixon would have been a pretty good president. The really lowered the tension between the U.S. and the Soviet Union during his terms. I'd probably say FDR was the best... Hm... |
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| Author: | porplemontage [ Sun Apr 17, 2005 2:52 pm ] |
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Jefferson was the best President. |
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| Author: | 7 [ Sun Apr 17, 2005 5:41 pm ] |
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Nixon!!! j/k, no thank you, you're a great audience. Anyway, definently Roosevelt. Why do you think they voted him back so much? |
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| Author: | Beyond the Grave [ Mon Apr 18, 2005 12:39 pm ] |
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Yeah but FDR kept us in the dark about a lot of things. |
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| Author: | Evin290 [ Mon Apr 18, 2005 3:32 pm ] |
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Beyond the Grave wrote: Yeah but FDR kept us in the dark about a lot of things.
There was good reason for him to do that, though... |
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| Author: | StrongCanada [ Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:02 pm ] |
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DUBYA!! Ok, I'm kidding. Uh...I think it was Sir John A. MacDonald. WHOOPS! Canadian PM! I always had a soft spot for Reagan, but only because I was born the day he was elected....as the prophecy fortold... |
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| Author: | Lunar Jesty [ Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:54 am ] |
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William Henry Harrison. Kidding. I'd say Kennedy, for the reasons already stated. |
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| Author: | ModestlyHotGirl [ Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:52 am ] |
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I'll say James K. Polk. In four short years, he met his every goal. He seized the whole southwest from Mexico. Made sure the tariffs fell, and made the English sell the Oregon territory. He built an independent treasury. Okay, okay. I'll admit it - TMBG taught me all I know about presidents. I know who's not the best, though, Bush. Junior or Senior, it doesn't matter. But I can't really have an informed opinion, although I did always like Reagan because he looked like my Gramps. |
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| Author: | Naked_Lunch [ Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:14 pm ] |
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FDR is my personal preference, though with the dingbats who've become president, it wasn't a tough choice. FDR was pretty hardcore, I've read that he [omitted]
[Edit by InterruptorJones: There was a line there, and you crossed it. Watch yourself.] |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:22 pm ] |
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ModestlyHotGirl wrote: I'll say James K. Polk.
In four short years, he met his every goal. He seized the whole southwest from Mexico. Made sure the tariffs fell, and made the English sell the Oregon territory. He built an independent treasury. Having done all this, he sought no second term. 
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| Author: | T-Smash [ Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:57 pm ] |
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I'd definitely say Ronald Reagan. |
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| Author: | Tngl [ Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:52 am ] |
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Ronald Reagan. He ended the Cold War peacefully, boosted the economy,modernized the military. |
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| Author: | thefreakyblueman [ Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:57 am ] |
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Tngl wrote: Ronald Reagan.
He ended the Cold War peacefully, boosted the economy,modernized the military. Rather, he tripled the national debt by doing the other two things. (Though, he did lower inflation in the country) |
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| Author: | Ricksea [ Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:52 pm ] |
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ModestlyHotGirl wrote: I'll say James K. Polk.
I disagree. Polk ignored international war code and really had no right to attack Mexico just for land. He also decieved congress by leading them to believe Mexico was a threat, when it wasn't. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:55 pm ] |
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Ricksea wrote: I disagree. Polk ignored international war code and really had no right to attack Mexico just for land. He also decieved congress by leading them to believe Mexico was a threat, when it wasn't.
Maybe so, but that doesn't make a very good song. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:56 pm ] |
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thefreakyblueman wrote: Tngl wrote: Ronald Reagan. He ended the Cold War peacefully, boosted the economy,modernized the military. Rather, he tripled the national debt by doing the other two things. (Though, he did lower inflation in the country) |
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| Author: | Ricksea [ Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:03 pm ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: Ricksea wrote: I disagree. Polk ignored international war code and really had no right to attack Mexico just for land. He also decieved congress by leading them to believe Mexico was a threat, when it wasn't. Maybe so, but that doesn't make a very good song. I don't get it. |
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| Author: | Stu [ Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:05 pm ] |
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I suppose the only problem I would have with Reagan is how far from the center his party line was. I would feel this qay regardless of which party a politician was member of. I don't see how you can represent our nation when your politics are so far to the right (or left) Personally I just need more balance, specifically the ability to see the other sides point of view. While you may not always agree, you can see why they are taking that stand. |
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| Author: | ramrod [ Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:06 pm ] |
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Ricksea wrote: InterruptorJones wrote: Ricksea wrote: I disagree. Polk ignored international war code and really had no right to attack Mexico just for land. He also decieved congress by leading them to believe Mexico was a threat, when it wasn't. Maybe so, but that doesn't make a very good song. I don't get it. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:09 pm ] |
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Ricksea wrote: I don't get it.
ModestlyHotGirl's entire post was a recitation of the third verse of the They Might Be Giants song "James K. Polk." |
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| Author: | ModestlyHotGirl [ Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:17 pm ] |
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That's right. I even said I know next to nothing about US politics, especially historically. Polk is the first one that came to mind, so I thought I'd sing a song. |
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