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Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:10 am ]
Post subject:  Stereotypes=BAD

hey, whats the deal with people thinking that what a person is like deppends on what their race or religion, or skin tone deppends on how they act? i mean, a texan isnt a person who dresses up like a cowboy and carries a gun, there normal people, just like most of you. a black person doesnt act like what is shown in movies, or TV, they could be a freakin normal subburban person. a hispanic! ah, heres where everything falls into my territory, everyone thinks that adding an "O" at the end of every second word they say is spanish. it aint, its giblets, uhh, i mean giberish. now, some people think that hispanics act like "Yo, sup holmes, i got a J back at my crib, lets take a puff on it,aight?". not alot of hispanics act like that, only ones who want to be so-call "Gangster". im gonna stop talking now, whats ur view on the subject with this?

Author:  Evin290 [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:13 am ]
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My view is that this topic doesn't really do anything. Of course stereotypes are bad. No one thinks that stereotypes are good. And the poll was just 100% unnecessary. (By the way, that whole thing with Spanish, that's not a stereotype. That's a stupid way of interpreting a different language. I hate people who do that with Spanish...)

Author:  ModestlyHotGirl [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:50 am ]
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I agree. No one will disagree that stereotypes are bad. This thread is pretty useless.

About that Spanish thing, it's funny when Marzipan does it. "Leave me a messagio and I'll call you backio."

Author:  Ricksea [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  No. No, wait, NO!!!

Why did you put "no" twice? Why didn't you put "yes"?

Stereotypes are nationally considered awful and I'd be very surprised if we have any sort of sterotypical views on the hrwiki forum.

Author:  Lunar Jesty [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:34 pm ]
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Aren't you stereotyping us by making us all nothing? Everyone is a stereotype. Americans are lazy. Canadians are worthless. The English are all snobs.

Author:  JumbleCaper [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:47 pm ]
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Lunar Jesty wrote:
Everyone is a stereotype. Americans are lazy, worthless snobs.


Agreed!

Author:  AgentSeethroo [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:40 pm ]
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JumbleCaper wrote:
Lunar Jesty wrote:
Everyone is a stereotype. Americans are lazy, worthless snobs.


Agreed!


That's funny and all...but next time you do something like that, just put a [/misquote] thing underneath it, okay?

Someone could really think you're trying to bend their words.

But in any event ROFL!!!

And I agree that this thread is pretty much useless.

Stereotypes are something I deal with on a daily basis.

There are even GOOD stereotypes.

For example: I'm in the military. People look at me in uniform, and naturally assume that I'm a fine upstanding young man that wants to serve his country. Upstanding, I say!!

Not that that ISN'T the case...however, the military is a fish tank full of good fish, ugly fish, bad fish, and fish crap floating around in it.

Bad stereotypes? I hate 'em. I used to get stared at all the time when I'd go into stores and whatnot. I had these huge spikeys goin' on, a big old goatee, I was your typical punk skater, I suppose. Not a cheesey junior high poser skater, either. The real deal.

My wife is more often a victim, though. She's hispanic, see, and more often than not, other hispanic people will walk up to her and just start speaking Spanish.

While that's not THAT big a deal, it's just annoying.

Author:  JumbleCaper [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:42 pm ]
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JumbleCaper wrote:
Lunar Jesty wrote:
Everyone is a stereotype. Americans are lazy, worthless snobs.


Agreed![/misquote]

Author:  breadtangle o' pizza [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:46 pm ]
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This isn't quite a stereotype but it still has to do with the whole Spanish thing...people seem to think that because their parents or someone are from <spanish-speaking country> that they're instantly Spanish. Like if they're talking about how poorly they did on a quiz in Spanish class, they're like "I'm even Spanish and I got a 58!" when they're like half Puerto Rican.

Author:  ThatGoblin [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:15 pm ]
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I hate stereotypes. A "friend" of mine in my science class always says stuff about the Japanese. Like, if something didn't work he'd go, "OMG your japaneseness made the machine not work.". I hate stereotypes.

Author:  LOLC2k [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 9:41 pm ]
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stereotypes... yeah. we all know they're dumb.
Your "Japaneeseness" causing something to not work, however, is not really a stereotype... it's someone being an idiot.

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:35 pm ]
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hey, can we stop saying this topic is useless, its sparking a small disscussion.i put no in there two times as a joke, because i doubted that anyone in here does belive in stereo types.

Author:  Evin290 [ Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:06 am ]
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What ever happened to capitilization? It used to be so coo-ool!

I'm sorry MHGuy, but it's the truth. Saying "stereotypes are bad" doesn't really spark much of a discussion because everyone agrees with it.

Author:  Didymus [ Fri Apr 22, 2005 1:08 am ]
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Well, actually, in my experience, stereotypes are always accurate. For example:

All one-armed dragons burninate peasants and countrysides.

All blue robot super heroes are idiots.

All big grey people with elephant feet are extremely depressing.

All green people with "Z" on their chests talk funny.

All mages that wear light blue robes and cover their faces with yellow straw hats are extremely psychotic.

All princesses are really hot when they wear their villainess armor.

Author:  nafajo [ Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:05 pm ]
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Everyone thinks that the Chinese people are math geeks who suck at Engilish.

I do NOT rock at math (math sucks!) and I correct everyone's spelling. That should be enough for you people.

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:59 am ]
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you spelled english wrong, :p j/k
well, okay, so maybee i shouldnt have named this post Stereotypes=bad, its just that commercial that shows theese two guys in a coffe shop, and one of them needs more sugar in his coffee, and he turns to the waiter and its a Hispanic Man, and the coffee guy says "Hey, you, i need more sugar in my coffee, hey, you speak english? sugaro in my coffeeo," and he turns back to his partner and says,"i tell ya, those mexicans, if theyre moving into this country, they better learn to speak the language". that comercial really ticked me off!! im hispanic, and so far down to my 104 year old grandfather has not lived in mexico. its just racist to me is all, i shoulda made this topic a "whats ur view on racism"

Author:  Jimmie [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:22 pm ]
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I agree, like pretty much everyone else. A few weeks ago, my (older) bro laughed at this label on a package for this furniture stuff (I think it was). It said

English: 16 <whatever it was>
Espanol: 16 Tacos.


Bleh. A few years ago I got mad at how this cartoon was always making fun of Texans, and I am Texan. But it got everything so wrong; it just isn't right.

And people at my school are all pretty much racists. Some are like "Stop trying to be black." or "My name is Michael, it's Whiteboy.". Once again: Bleh.

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:00 pm ]
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thats how its like at my school, everyone is racist. theres only one kid at my school who's pure albino white and acts like stereotype-black. its just sick, SICK!!so were always putting him down cause he wasnt like it last year. oi, he's just sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Author:  TheTinyGiant [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:27 am ]
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Here's my oddball explanation for the existence eof stereotypes.
People naturally tend to join the bigger side. So when it comes to general opinions, the instant one trend even seems to show, everyone sticks to that trend. Take the Oriental people and math thing. If one person walks into an advanced math class once and sees lots of asians, they'd tell their friend with this sole example, and their friend tries to follow suit. Soon 9/10 people believe the stereotype because it is only somewhat true. I suppose this is a little more true than the others, but because people like the winning side theyh focus on the stereotype, not the exceptions. Truth is, maybe only 60% of orientals are particularly good at math.
I do however have this non-reasoned tendency to dislike people who fit stereotypes. Just annoys me some reason.

My stereotypes:
Tall people are tall.
Fat people are fat.
People with blue eyes have blue eyes.
Oriental people have dark hair.
Latino/Hispanic people are slightly darker-skinned than average.
African-Americans are darker-skinned than most.
Blond-haired people have light hair.
Athletes are athletic.
People with glasses have worse vision.
Skinny people don't weigh a lot.
Men are male; women are female.
Russians(not talking about descendants, only native Russians) can speak Russian.

It's that easy.

Author:  Simon Zeno [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:40 am ]
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What if the Russians are mute? Geez, quit being so racist against mute Russians... j/k :P

You people think that you have it bad with stereotypes... try living in Kentucky...

First, let's set the scene:

55% (roughly) of the population are either rednecks/various other white trash. I can say this without feeling bad because I go to school with most of them and can accurately say that most of them are, in fact, white trash. Most of these rednecks wear rebel flags ALL THE TIME, despite the fact that A) The war's over, the south will never rise, stop whining and B) Kentucky never succeded from the Union... take a History class... :P

For some reason, they all have a serious stereotype problem... mostly by using Jewish as an adjective for something being stupid/undesirable. Another popular one: gay. This isn't just my problem, it's a national epidemic. Phrases such as "That's gay" or "Stop being gay, dude." Only about 3% of the time do any of these phrases actually allude to homosexuality, the rest of the time, it's one of those universal adjectives...

I know that someone's thinking, "But Simon, don't you have a problem with stereotypes too, if you call all those people white trash?" Well, maybe, but at least mine are based from actual first-hand experience, as opposed to bigotry thinly masked as patriotism.

BTW: I think that this is my longest post to date...

Author:  doom [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:00 am ]
Post subject:  hmmmm....

if you mean streio typs that are used for insulting or attacking the group of people but the kind that you may see on say saturday night live is used for comedy and you should be able to laugh at yourself i do alot

Author:  Evin290 [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: hmmmm....

doom wrote:
if you mean streio typs that are used for insulting or attacking the group of people but the kind that you may see on say saturday night live is used for comedy and you should be able to laugh at yourself i do alot

I agree with you doom, but it's a little hard to read your post. Could you use punctuation? That'd help. :)

Author:  doom [ Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  ok

i guess I will try to use better grammer. Everything has a steriotype and like I the only bad type is when it trys to hurt or attack people.

Any better?

Author:  Evin290 [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:05 pm ]
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Actually no, no offense... :eek:

;)

Author:  Lunar Jesty [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:15 pm ]
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MHGuy, you didn't ask "Do you stereotype?" You asked "Are you a stereotype?" There's a difference.

Author:  TheTinyGiant [ Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: ok

doom wrote:
I guess I will try to use better grammar. Everything has a stereotype, and, like I, the only bad type is when it tries to hurt or attack people.

Any better?

Hope I don't offend you by trying to help. If it doesn't, I wish the best of luck to you for learning a little by example since most forumgoers here seem relatively educated. Not many "OMG steam r0xorz tehb ig one!!!111"- they tend to not stay anyways.

Yeah I guess the only stereotypes that are remotely usable are ones that are almost completely untrue and very obviously so. Like, "Canadians and their penguins and polar bears"...just beecause they're up north doesn't mean they have polar bears living among them. Polar bears, I believe, live way too far north, and penguins don't live in the north at all but rather at the south. I imagine lower Canada has summers sometimes surpassing 80 degrees F (27? C)

Hmm, another odd view: Poeple tend to assume that reversing generalizations yields the same effect.
The average NBA player is 6'9(2.05m). Those people are supposd to come less than 1 in 10,000. For adult men, 6'2(1.87m) is in the top 5%(out of 100 average American men, that means about 5 are taller than you are), 6'7(sorry no more metric) is about 1 in 5,000 in the USA. If you look at an NBA roster, like any team will have an average height of at least 6'7, and there'll only be 3 people less than 6'3 which is still past the top 5%. Just look on the court and they're all around the same. So hencee
"All"(98%) [pro] basketball players are tall.
Therefore, all tall people are basketball players.
Thta's the assumption people make; reversing a statement should not change the trueness. While being tall just makes playing basketball much easier, a shorter person with immense skill can beat a taller person with moderate skill. All skill and ability being equal, a taller person is always better. Most people over 6'7 you meet won't be particularly coordinated or in good physical shape, be it strength, agility, endurance, or coordination. You could tip them with one finger. But every so often you get a tall person who does like basketball and plays and practices often. That accounts for maybe 20% of very tall people.

And yet another view
Face it. People are mostly lazy bums. They take the path of least resistance, whether it's walking around a wall, or worse yet doing drugs. So at that people want the easiest way to know someone, and that is to apply a stereotype. They don't want to take all the time to know every 10,000 people they meet a year (jsut a guess). So they'll assume a generalizaztion fits all, even if it's true for only 55%, an insignificant majority. If you meet someone who doesn't use stereotypes at all or very sparingly("Hmm, this guy looks Mexican. I'll guess he might know Spanish but I'll see if he speaks it with his friends") cherish it, because this person is probably hard working and caring. At least to a higher extent.



(Simon you want long post? Feat your eyes on this! I've got long posts that make long posts. I'm a long post man, long post long post. :hr: )

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:17 am ]
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i dissagree with myself! this post is usless, close it please!!

Author:  Lunar Jesty [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:22 am ]
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Wait, so now you think stereotypes are good?

Author:  Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest [ Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:17 am ]
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no, your just arguing about all the stuff i or anyone else keeps saying. i mean, this post doesnt really have any meaning any more. oi, im gonna PM Interuptor Jones

Author:  DanBo [ Wed May 04, 2005 3:30 am ]
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Cmon MHG, spelling and grammar! Anyway, I think stereotypes are perpetuated by people to "peer pressure" others into buying into a style.
ie: who popped their collars two years ago?

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