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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2005 9:02 pm 
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How much respect do you think children should receive about their ideas and thoughts, what kind of respect (if any), and why?
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[Edit by InterruptorJones: Typing your subjects in all caps is not a good way to get respect.]

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Well, many do deserve respect. But you have to look at it in a different point of view. You just can brush them off because they're younger, because what they say might be right. But also, if their favourite past-time is paint the cat, then you need to weigh that thought a tad bit.

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I would pose the question: why do you ask?

Jesus taught in the temple when he was 12 years old.

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Maybe, but not every child is Jesus. In fact, I'd say a great deal of them aren't.

CHILDREN DESERVE NO RESPECT, BECAUSE I'M BIGGER AND SMARTER THAN THEY ARE!!!!!!!!!!

No, but seriously, I think that you should respect a child in the same way that you would an adult colleague, adjusting for the child's lack of education where necessary.


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It depends on the idea or thought. Age is irrelevant, although if a two-year-old who was colouring on the wall the previous day is explaining quantum physics to you, look around for someone practicing their ventriloquism skills.


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I yearn for the days when kids barely 7 would waltz into coal mines and actually do something benefitting for society. And god dammit, they'd do it with a smile on their face and sun in their hearts!


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I yearn for the days when kids barely 7 would waltz into coal mines and actually do something benefitting for society. And , they'd do it with a smile on their face and sun in their hearts!
1) Ok Mr Vanderbilt
2) Watch the language, please?

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I yearn for the days when kids barely 7 would waltz into coal mines and actually do something benefitting for society. And god dammit, they'd do it with a smile on their face and sun in their hearts!


No no, children. Black lung disease is just a myth, like Santa Claus and the Vice President.


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I yearn for the days when kids barely 7 would waltz into coal mines and actually do something benefitting for society. And , they'd do it with a smile on their face and sun in their hearts!


No no, children. Black lung disease is just a myth, like Santa Claus and the Vice President.
I'm tellng ya, he died in 1998, and is really a robot.

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I was a child once. Which is more reason to prevent anymore like me from growing up.

I say let them be. Sometimes I wish people were more like kids ie less offensive, more creative, and more willing to experiment and have fun.

Oh and Santa is alive. We keep him in a statis cell in the basement.

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Didymus wrote:
I would pose the question: why do you ask?


Well a few days ago my little brother was shut up, with no provocation, by a teacher because he wanted to explain why his homework was incomplete, which reminded me of my (slightly traumatic)grade school years.
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As someone who interacts with children on a daily basis (children's theatre company), we are taught that children's ideas need to be validated....too often kids are brushed aside because they are so young. We don't have to believe everything they say, but for goodness' sake, just listen to them; that's often all they want.

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I rememeber when I was in elementary school:

Snobby Aside: I'm an ADULT. Therefore, you give me respect. You are inferior-
Me: *rolls eyes*
Snobby Aside: GO DOWN TO THE PRINCIPAL'S OFFICE RIGHT NOW!

Good times.

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I think kid's ideas need to be respected, because sometimes the young mind can come up with creative things the adult mind may not even think of. However, I wouldn't be inclined to respect most children, simply based on maturity level. Of course, the maturity level of kids my age (high school freshmen) is sometimes even worse. Not that I really respect thier opinions anyway.


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I love maddox... we can learn so much from him.

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I think that children should get respect when they earn it; that way they're prepared for dealing with jerks like me who won't give someone an ounce of respect until they've earned it.


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StrongCanada wrote:
As someone who interacts with children on a daily basis (children's theatre company), we are taught that children's ideas need to be validated....too often kids are brushed aside because they are so young. We don't have to believe everything they say, but for goodness' sake, just listen to them; that's often all they want.

You work at a children's theatre company?! That rules! I've always loved theatre.

As for the respect of children... ho-hum... Even at my age (14), we don't get very much respect. Actually, I do, because I'm a suck-up :-) but that's besides the point. For example, my friend Mike and I were playing capture the flag in gym class. He had gotten out and had to go to "jail." He saw that another kid was running to set everyone in "jail" free, so Mike ran to jail and got there the same time as the other kid, and everyone (including him) was back in. My gym teacher blew the whistle and accused him of cheating (he thought that Mike had pretended to be out so that he could get the team back in.) Mike tried to explain what really happened, and he was told to sit out for a minute.

Another example: A radiculously annoying and incompitent substitute teacher in our English class was making us copy down information about the book Hiroshima onto a chart (of which she could have made already-filled-in copies.) She was going far to quickly for any of us to keep up. We were all shouting at her (including me, because even though I'm a suck-up, she's so cruel that I feel inclined to yell at her) and she said something like "quiet! This class is already having enough trouble keeping up!" So this girl says "that's because you're going to fast for us to keep up! Why won't you TEACH us, it's your JOB!" So she gets detention. :-( She used to be an English teacher and she can't even say words. She pronounces "diocese" as dee-oh-CEASE, and "miasma" as mee-uh-ZAMMA, and "turbulant" as TER-buh-lint. This is my personal favorite, I called out a question and she answered it, and then another kid calls out a question and she yells at him for calling out. She says that he should be more like me. I told her that I didn't raise my hand either and she merely said "whatever." In another class she mentioned the "bombing" at the British consulate in NYC. According to my friend, Rhonda, she went on a tangent about terrorism, and she mentioned the fact that Islam is going to outnumber Christianity by the year 2025 and she said something like "that means more terrorists." Rhonda is a Muslim. She went on a rampage about how Islam is a peaceful religion, and only a handful of extremists do any sort of terrorism.

So to answer your question, yes, kids should get respect. Do I seem like I'm 14 years old?

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[offtopic] Speaking of teachers that can't speak, I had a teacher in high school that pronounced "sovereignty" as "sovriety" (rhymes with "sobriety"). That's just ridiculous. How do teachers like that make it through school? [/offtopic]

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It's hard for me to come to a single conclusion about this. There are a number of reasons children should get respect, but there are also many to not care.

On one hand, children can be intelligent and mature beings, and actually be correct about something. They have opinions just like we do, and should be treated with respect. Their opinions should be valued and considered before thrown away. I'm thirteen, and I consider myself equal to many adults. Many people agree with me that it doesn't matter how many times you've traveled around the sun, but it's what you pick up on the way.

However, there are many children who are just egotistical, and think they are so cool, because "Hey! Look at me! I'm 10 and is decent in making flash animations!" or "Look at me! I'm a child version of Einstien!". These are the kids that irk me in a way unbeknownst to many adults, since I've had many a bad experience with these types.

O, how I wish I were able to come to a mere partial consensus between these two opinions, but I would just stare at this cursor for hours upon end.

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[off-topic, aussi]
I had this idiot for a 9th grade health teacher. And when I say idiot, I honestly mean that there is no way that he should be allowed to teach. He can't spell, do rudimentary math, or even really teach his own subject, which, once again, is HEALTH! The most basic of all classes: not getting unhealthy! The fact that this guy has enough brain cells to keep him from forgetting to breathe is a medical marvel all its own.

[back on topic]
I can't stand it when parents enforce the belief that their child is the best at everything. While credit should be given where credit is due, making your kid into an egotistical introvert accomplishes nothing but making them a fleshy lump of wasted potential.


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[offtopic] Speaking of teachers that can't speak, I had a teacher in high school that pronounced "sovereignty" as "sovriety" (rhymes with "sobriety"). That's just ridiculous. How do teachers like that make it through school? [/offtopic]


Maybe this is a Canadian phenomenon...I had an ENGLISH teacher who pronounced the "Thames River" like "THaymes" (like "th" as in "threw"), and she also pronounced "chasm" as "CHasm" (like "ch" as in "church"). It's bad enough for any teacher to do that, but an English teacher? Come on now, eh?

Anywho...back on topic...kids are super great.

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nice, strong canida, Nice.........Stairing Admirably

ohh, wait... what? im on topic.....
okay, first off, what people or parents need to know is that at the contemptual age in which they gain knowledge, but is burdend with peer pressure, so they never use it and act like there all dumbfounded. what they really need is that Scientist shouldnt study kids records and make a statment that says "six out of seven teenagers will smoke pot", they should just ask the kids themselves, "Hey, you smoke pot?" theyll get an answer.

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Maybe this is a Canadian phenomenon...

I'm not from Canada, so your theory doesn't hold up... But my dad's a Canadian citizen! :-)

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I say kids deserve the same respect and expactations from adults!
(did I spell expactations right, crap.....)
I think over 12 should be adult, yeah, I'm an idiot.

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I'm a teenage, and I DEMAND MY RIGHTS! ;)

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I believe that people should have respect according to the responsibility they show. For example, an irresponsible adult should get little or no respect. But a teenager who shows a decent level of responsibility should get some respect.

Respect is related to trust, and if people can't trust you, then they won't respect you. That's just how it is.

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Come on, kids (in my book ages 6-16) should receive the amount of respect they show. Of course, there are those times that when you were a kid there was some adult who riddled you out or ignored you because "you have no life experience." Experience is on thing, but responsiblity is another.

Another thing, what is up with the lack of discipline enforced on kids? How many times do you see parents catering to their child no matter what? Then those kids become sniveling little brats that you just want to kick across the room. It's amazing when you get to college how many people you meet that don't know how to do simple things, like laundry. Make your kids do something, cod flammit!

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I am 13, and people still consider me as a child. If you haven't noticed, I'm about as mature as someone in collge (and have been mistaken for a college student over and over because I happen to be 6'1'', too). I say respect them if they know what they are talking about. and don't make fun of them either! That's always a pain in the butt.

(If I'm mistooken for a student in college in 7th grade, what will I be mistaken for in college? A professor?)


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I am 13, and people still consider me as a child. If you haven't noticed, I'm about as mature as someone in collge (and have been mistaken for a college student over and over because I happen to be 6'1'', too). I say respect them if they know what they are talking about. and don't make fun of them either! That's always a pain in the butt.

(If I'm mistooken for a student in college in 7th grade, what will I be mistaken for in college? A professor?)


Here's something you'll learn very quickly in college: Very few people are mature in college. Most college students act like high school kids. Some of them act worse. And a good chunk of them, even at the best schools, read and write at a high school level, all the way through their senior year. Using college students as your benchmark for maturity or intellect is folly.

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Here's something you'll learn very quickly in college: Very few people are mature in college. Most college students act like high school kids. Some of them act worse. And a good chunk of them, even at the best schools, read and write at a high school level or worse, all the way through their senior year. Using college students as your benchmark for maturity or intellect is folly.


You've got a point there.... I'm such a freak. Too mature for everyone my age, and then too young for people who are as mature as me. I wish I was born earlier or something.


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