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My personal favourite example is my old English teacher who couldn't spell "balloon" (he wrote "ballon"). Oh, and he pronounced "wretched" as "retched", which was fairly amusing given the context.

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"Urr Ryan!" one of my teachers said. and dont ask what it means, i dont know. besides, kids should be trusted once in a while. just like in the movie War Games

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You mean the movie where the kid hacks into his school computer, changes his grades, then proceeds to hack into a sophistocated Dept of Defense computer so he can play video games, and nearly ends up a sploding the planet?

Did you forget to put in the [sarcasm=96] [/sarcasm] operators?

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Kids=very yes
adults=ditto
I thinka kids should not be treated like propertie, (which is what most adults do) and should not be where it's all like this kid has some great idea, but then nobody pays attention because they think "Oh, he's just a stupid kid".
I know because everyone treats me like this, even though I'm freakin' thirteen.

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Kids deserve more respect really. Nowadays they are treated about the same as people who are considered to be insane: There may be some importance and meaning in what there saying, but chances are its just nonsense.

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Children are honest. And innocent, and pure, and all that other crap. By not respecting them, we make them be not honest. And parents are hypocrites. That's something else I firmly believe.

Exactally, Danielle, thats what people need to understand, they gotta treat kids exactally how they treat their boss.
"Bill, i need those Forms delivered onto my desk by 8:00, get to work!"
"yes sir mr.patterson! ill get those Fiscul reports finished by seven and on your desk by 8!"
"good, suck up, for a 5 year old boy, u sure know how to finish forms."
three weeks later
"billy, your fired!"
'' why, Sir?"
"those reports you did suggested that you get a chocolate milk on ur desk every morning!"
"wasnt that what it was for?"
''NO! it was for our health care benifits! now everyone is only covered by Chocolate Milk Disease!"
whu whu whuuuuuu.

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We need respect. I hate being treated like that. Nor do I like being treat like the way most treat three year olds. I'm 12. Not 3.

I also don't like how when kids are little, everyone tends to baby them and act like everything is always extremely happy and nice. I think that just makes 'em dumb. There is a difference between love and babying.

Treat kids like I treat my boss? You have GOT to be kidding! I'll treat kids like my boss when they've gained the life experience and authority that qualifies someone to be my boss. Respect is not something you can demand; it's something you have to earn. You want respect from adults? Then act responsibly, do what you're told, keep your promises, and otherwise show that you are trustworthy enough to receive the respect you want.

Oh, and by the way, CD, calling parents hypocrits is NOT the best way to demonstrate that kind of trustworthiness. Keep that in mind the next time your parents don't offer you the respect you feel like you deserve. OR, as a certain man once said, "Pull the plank out of your eye so that you can see. Then help your brother pull the speck from his."

Something else to keep in mind: respect is usually accompanied by responsibility. If your parents respect you, they will most likely give you more chores to do, and expect more from you as a person. So if you're not willing to accept that kind of responsibility, then don't go around demanding respect.


I agree. And that goes not just for children, but adults as well. Especially here in America, we are taught not to show any negative feelings, to pretend that everything is perfectly happy-go-lucky. I am sad to say that Christians are often the worst about doing this, despite the fact that Scripture teaches us otherwise. But if you're constantly trying to put on a false face, people will see it and begin to distrust you.

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2 things that really show a false face, and extremely crappily, to: CareBears and Telletubies. *barf*

WHAT??? You don't like Care Bears?!? Well, then take this!



CARE BEAR STARE!

*SC has recently become addicted to Google images*

Oh - on topic. Diddy, I agree with you about your feelings of earning respect...I guess when I made my post, I kind of neglected to think about that. I agree with JJ though about people babying children. And I do still think that many people don't give children enough credit. After all, they're just smaller human beings who haven't had the time to learn as much as their older counterparts.

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I agree. I have some friends that don't even like fairy tales because fairy tales often contain death and destruction and burnination and such. Well, guess what! Death and destruction and burnination happen in real life! So trying to shelter your kids from real life just doesn't cut it (I was reading LOTR when I was 12).

Now I am opposed to exposing kids to pornographic material. But then again, I'm also opposed to exposing adults to pornographic material, too. It's one thing to teach your kids the Facts of Life, but I don't think they need the video footage. I.e., don't try to shelter them from that reality, but at the same time, don't let the media shove their twisted version of it into their faces.

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I can't tell you how many arguments I've had with people about that. I even had an ex who believed that porn was "art". I tried to tell him that because it objectified it's subject and because its purpose was not "artistic" that there was no way porno could be art! (I realize some of you may disagree, but that's my opinion.)

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Did I mention I've done extensive research on sexual addiction as part of my CPE training? You are absolutely right, SC. Pornography objectifies (and I would claim also victimizes) women and men as sex objects. Furthermore, pornography has detrimental effects on the human psyche; it destroys the ability to have healthy relationships with people of the opposite sex, both as friends and as partners/spouses. It literally destroys people from the inside out.

For more information, here are some links:

Dr. Mark Laaser, a professional counselor and expert on sexual addiction.

Sexaholics Anonymous.

Sexual addiction is very much like substance addiction and alcoholism. Like with drinking, there is such a thing as healthy sexuality. However, pornography is not at all what healthy sexuality looks like. Do yourself a favor, kids. Stay Away From The Porn.

This off-topic rant brought to you by the Didymus Foundation for a Better Tomorrow.

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I wouldn't be so sure about that... I would wager a lot more perfectly decent respectable people in happy monogomous relationships would dabble in a little porn than one would realise.

Not that they'd admit it, of course..

but, yes, definetly not for kids!![/quote]

Perhaps, Coz, except that my topic wasn't "Healthy Uses of Porn," but rather, "Pornography, Sexual Addiction, and Pastoral Counseling."

I'd challenge you to do some research on the psychological effects of pornography sometime. First and foremost, as SC stated above, it presents an unhealthy view of human sexuality that devalues human relationships. At best, a person engaging in porn is devaluing and objectifying other human beings as mere objects of lust. And, what's more, this devaluation and objectification effects the culture at large, too.

Furthermore, pornography damages a person's ability to engage in meaningful relationships. Plus there's the resentment involved, as well as the guilt and shame. These further alienate the person from the world, perpetuating a vicious cycle of low self-esteem followed by escape through fantasy. The person then finds that they need more and more porn to satisfy their lusts. Just like with an alcoholic.

Healthy sexuality is a engaging, fulfilling relationship with another person. It is both emotional and physical. Pornography focuses attention on the physical and devalues emotional wellbeing.

My thought is this: if you are in a healthy relationship with a partner, then what do you need porn for anyway?

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Didymus,

I just think they way you're writing just gives the impression that you're being far to generalistic with your views on people who view porn.

I agree that porn can be damaging for some, like alcohol can, however when you said "pornography is not at all what healthy sexuality looks like" i took it to mean you believe you cannot have a healthy relationship and view any pornography whatsoever.

This, to me, is akin to saying anyone who enjoys a glass of wine with dinner is an alcoholic who is a danger to themselves and others.

It would be fairer, i reckon, if there were a few more "can"s in what you say.


back on topic:

Children need utmost respect, but, so does their innocence.

Ugh. No double posting, please, Coztopia.

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sorry, MHG, please delete second post (and this) as required.

I disagree Coz. Healthy sexual contact with a single partner would be the equivalent to a glass of wine with dinner. Pornography itself is engagement in a twisted view of sexuality. It's more like getting drunk than enjoying a glass of wine. The person who engages in pornography has already developed the twisted worldview that leads to sexual addiction. It doesn't necessarily mean that the addiction will result, but the danger is there.

Part of the issue might be the distinction between "soft core" and "hard core" varieties. I would say that "hard core" is always dangerous. It's like drinking straight whiskey. "Soft core," depending on the context, might not have quite the same effect, but most of that depends on how it's presenting human sexuality. Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue, for example, may be soft core, but its intended purpose is to illicit a sexual response from the reader. What's more, it presents a twisted view of human sexuality by objectifying the models presented therein.

So can a couple watch a soft core flick and engage in sex afterward without long-term consequences? Perhaps, but I would ask the question again, why would they need to? They have each other; that should be enough. If not, it may be a symptom of a deeper problem.

All I'm saying is that healthy sexuality does not include pornography.

But as for the charge of generalizing: maybe I am. But if I am, it's because of the research I've done on this topic. If you'd like, I can put you in contact with a professional counselor who can verify my findings.

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Er, I'm no mod (at least, I'm not a mod here), but if ya'll want to debate about porn and all that crap, make a new thread. Let's keep this on topic.

Agreed. I will post no more responses about porn here. If someone wants to start a new topic, feel free.

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I think kids are brilliant. I wish I still was one. Adults should be there to provide direction for kids, but they should also respect kids and actually listen to them. How stupid would it be if a kid had a truly good idea (which they often do) but adults dismissed it because it came from a kid? Plus, if you don't give them respect, you better not demand any from them, because they're not gonna learn anything good from watching adults act like morons and ignoring them. So yeah, go kids.

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ok this guy if he ever has kids will probably beat them till they say "I am below zooplankton on the food chain please beat me because i am undeserving of your great awesome power. I don't deserve dinner tonight." You show yourself as a over pompous I'm-better-than-you-because-im-a-power-mad-adult. Kids have certain rights and you should act like it.

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Hon, I think it's supposed to be a joke.

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well they should have SOME respect but if they dont they could get corrupt

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What idiot thought the idea of putting the hole on the BUTT of them?Take a look one day!Notice those holes on top?Well thats where the Salt come out right?Well if you put the opening on butt guess what!When you go to fill them it is is going to spill and make a freaking mess all over myfloor!-Didy

Egh, another thing about the babying thing. A lot of times I'm walking around church or some place with a lot of the adults, I usuallyy see them all smile at me. No, not a good thing: I'm not sure if they're smiling because they're actually happy, or if theey're smiling because I'm a kid. Stupid.

And I've been treated like an adult before at confirmation retreats and my current Sunday school classes. Oh, it's MUCH better than being treated like a 3 year old.

It just feel so weird--even awkward--when someone is judging you by your age. I've even seen adults try to "stoop down" to my level because I'm a kid. Bleh. I can tell when someone is showing me a false face or if they really mean it. Like when I met Rhythm, for instance, I could tell that I was realistically they're friend and that they weren't saying "Awww. Look---IT'S A KID!! How cute.". Bleh.

I have always have had respect from my parents. My grandfather didn't respect me until I was 16, when I out smarted him.

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How? By tricking him into saying, "What's twelve by pies?" and winning all the Grumblecakes?

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He likes to engage in political debate, and he deems me to be the only one qualified to debate him.

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