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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Do you think that Bush has a trump card up his sleeve? |
With all the secrets that the Bush administration has kept from the american people do you think that he has captured osama bin ladin and is keeping him under wraps to get four more years in office? |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:55 pm ] |
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No. Having Osama bin Laden -- and the public knowing it -- would do much more to help than hurt his reelection. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Wed Jul 21, 2004 1:51 pm ] |
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I think what Tor Coolguy is referring to is the possibility that the Bushies have had bin Laden in custody for some time now but are waiting until October to reveal it (but of course they won't tell anybody that he's been in custody for a long time; they'll claim that, in an eerie coincidence, he was discovered in a spider hole just before the election). Having captured bin Laden back in 2002 wouldn't have helped the Bush campaign much, but having captured him in October '04 would help him plenty. Anyway, Coolguy, this has been discussed to some extent in the War on Terror thread (see October Surprise), but tactics like this have already been employed by the Bush administration. The New Republic reports that The White House has pressured Pakistan to ensure that "arrest or killing of [any] HVT (High Value Targets) [is] announced on twenty-six, twenty-seven, or twenty-eight July," which -- you guessed it -- is right in the middle of the Democratic National Convention. At any rate, yes, the White House is going to pull out every dirty trick it has between now and November. They've already begun, and it's only going to get more shameless. In my opinion. Oh, I also posted in the other thread this link, about how the White House is trying to figure out how they can postpone the election if they feel like it. By which I'm sure they mean only in the event of a terrorist attack. |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:12 pm ] |
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thank you Interrupterjones  . I 'm not one to give into all the conspericy theorys but I really think that the bush administration has something to ensure his re-election that's why he isn't trying had to campign either that or he knows the end is near and he isn't even trying. And think about it,Bush snuck into a canteen in Iraq thanksgiving and it came as a suprise to everyone that he could be so stelthy,I think he knows more than he's letting on
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| Author: | Swooshoman [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:29 am ] |
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I'm not saying for sure I trust the government OR the president, but it seems to me that Bush is a good christian man and wouldn't do something like that. I don't know... maybe I'm hangin around the old people at my church too much! (This is not meant as an insult to the people who fully trust in Bush or to those who don't! Just had to add that...) |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:38 am ] |
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I'm sorry but you have been spending wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much time with the old people. I really think Bush knows something and isn't letting on that he knows it (it isn't that hard, he dosn't know anything if a teleprompter dosn't tell him it) |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:44 am ] |
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(Warning: off-topic) Swooshoman wrote: but it seems to me that Bush is a good christian man
Seems to me he's a bad Christian man, considering how he wants to revise the first amendment with an embarrassing amendment of his own. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:46 am ] |
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If October rolls around and Bin Laden suddenly appears to be captured, I'll give this little theory credit. Until then, I have to say it looks a bit too paranoid to me. Not that I'm a huge Bush supporter or anything, but you're liable to find any and all kinds of false, misleading information on the internet. In fact, I think the CIA got its information on Iraqi weapons from the web. |
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| Author: | Shaon [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 1:32 pm ] |
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...speaking of Bush, did you know Bush and Kerry are related? They're cousins. |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 6:58 pm ] |
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I don't think that that is entirely true if it is I'll need to see a family tree |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:14 pm ] |
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LOL, Shaon, there's a huge, huge difference between first cousins and ninth cousins twice removed. That teensy little distinction is significant. |
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| Author: | AgentSeethroo [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:20 pm ] |
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woah, now, we can't forget about Hef! What a delightful family twee! |
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| Author: | Tom [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:21 pm ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: LOL, Shaon, there's a huge, huge difference between first cousins and ninth cousins twice removed. That teensy little distinction is significant.
Yeah, I betcha some of us could be ninth cousins and not even know it. |
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| Author: | AgentSeethroo [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:30 pm ] |
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Tom wrote: InterruptorJones wrote: LOL, Shaon, there's a huge, huge difference between first cousins and ninth cousins twice removed. That teensy little distinction is significant. Yeah, I betcha some of us could be ninth cousins and not even know it. Yeah, for real. Did you guys know that InterruptorJones is my 9th sister thrice ascended? |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:32 pm ] |
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AgentSeethroo wrote: Did you guys know that InterruptorJones is my 9th sister thrice ascended?
That's true, I read that somewhere. |
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| Author: | William S. [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:44 pm ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: AgentSeethroo wrote: Did you guys know that InterruptorJones is my 9th sister thrice ascended? That's true, I read that somewhere. Did you know that htis is a POLITICS thread? |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:47 pm ] |
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William S. wrote: Did you know that htis is a POLITICS thread?
Hi, William, I'm InterruptorJones, a forum moderator. Please consider condescending less. Thanks. |
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| Author: | AgentSeethroo [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:55 pm ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: William S. wrote: Did you know that htis is a POLITICS thread? Hi, William, I'm InterruptorJones, a forum moderator. Please consider condescending less. Thanks. Geeze, I just thought you were an agitated lunchlady. I'll mind my p's and q's from now on! So I was watchin' the "Gay Amendment" debates on CSPAN today. Talk about HEATED! |
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| Author: | Tom [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:59 pm ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: AgentSeethroo wrote: Did you guys know that InterruptorJones is my 9th sister thrice ascended? That's true, I read that somewhere. I saw it on the front page of The New York Post. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 7:59 pm ] |
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AgentSeethroo wrote: So I was watchin' the "Gay Amendment" debates on CSPAN today. Talk about HEATED!
You know you've watched too much QaF when something like that sounds dirty. 
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| Author: | AgentSeethroo [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:04 pm ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: AgentSeethroo wrote: So I was watchin' the "Gay Amendment" debates on CSPAN today. Talk about HEATED! You know you've watched too much QaF when something like that sounds dirty. Oh good grief... 
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:07 pm ] |
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Just trying to lighten the moooood, fellas. |
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| Author: | lumberpeg vegeplank [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:32 pm ] |
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Oh nooooo, yet another thread succumbs to the inevitable gay marriage debate. I think that's 3 down and a hundred or so to go... |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:39 pm ] |
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o boy, wanted this thread to be heated and popular but this is nuts,just don't go into religion please .
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| Author: | lumberpeg vegeplank [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:44 pm ] |
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I think Bush's trump card was that he was finally going to declare his secret relationship with John Kerry. They are lovers. Kerry wanted to get a civil union, but Bush fears commitment. (hence the constituational amendment) Oh, wait I mean cousins. No, sorry, I mean something religion related. No not that either. Forget I said anything. |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:47 pm ] |
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that was cool, but really don't go into relgion(there's an entire thread for that somewhere else) |
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| Author: | Stu [ Fri Jul 23, 2004 12:40 am ] |
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Hey Jones Quote: At any rate, yes, the White House is going to pull out every dirty trick it has between now and November. They've already begun, and it's only going to get more shameless. In my opinion.
While I wouldn't be surprised to see them do something along these lines, I highly doubt it would be Bin Laden. As dumb as the general public is, the Bush adminstratrion can't think that they would get away with that. It would be too obvious. Too much of a coincidence. To be honest, if I were Bush and through the dumbest of luck I (rather the soldiers over in the middle east) actually caught him sometime in October, I would seriously consider delaying the anouncement until after the elections. Everyone (and their dog) would say that this was the card hidden up their sleeve. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:06 am ] |
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Has anyone seen that cartoon with the singing George Bush and John Kerry in it? |
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| Author: | fahooglewitz1077 [ Fri Jul 23, 2004 1:10 am ] |
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Umm... the "This Land" one, yeah I saw that. |
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| Author: | lumberpeg vegeplank [ Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:47 am ] |
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Stu wrote: It would be too obvious. Too much of a coincidence. To be honest, if I were Bush and through the dumbest of luck I (rather the soldiers over in the middle east) actually caught him sometime in October, I would seriously consider delaying the anouncement until after the elections. Everyone (and their dog) would say that this was the card hidden up their sleeve. I totally disagree. Most of the American public will believe anything that the President and Company says. And by company I mean Fox News and most major networks most nights out of the week.
I mean, almost half of this terribly misinformed nation still believes that Iraq had something to do with September 11th. Or that installing a democracy is easy. Or that this is a war to end all wars. Again. If President Bush says that he went into some cave and he hog tied Osama himself, with his cowboy hat on the entire time, people would believe it. I mean, half the country still thinks this war wasn't even about oil. Give me a break. Like it's just a coincidence that a major oil company took over an oil-rich country that was in desparate need. Iraq is a war-torn, hurt, starving country and I feel we are taking advantage of them. It seems obvious to me. Can you imagine how much money was made to be put in the pockets of those people who helped GWB in his political career? And people are blind to it...at least that's the way I feel. It makes me quite frustrated. How is it in England? Can you say anything against the government there? Because you can't here now. The politicians have reached some sort of..demigod status. You get booed off the stage when you say anything remotely negative against the president. |
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