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| Author: | PizzaTrophy [ Wed May 25, 2005 3:40 am ] |
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I'm not sure if this is getting any coverage in the US at all, but it is big over here. If you are not familiar with this case, please read this first before voting: http://news.ninemsn.com.au/generic.aspx?sectionID=1697 Last year, Schappelle Corby was on her way to visit her sister living in Bali. Her bags were inspected at customs and 4.1kg of marajuiana was found in a vacuum packed bag inside her boogie-board bag. She professed that it wasn't hers, but was taken to prison for importing drugs. The maximum penalty in Indonesia is the death penalty. At her trial (which is decided on Friday/Thursday for you guys) the prosecution decided they would only seek life in prison if found guilty. She professes that baggage handlers planted the drugs in her luggage at one of the Australian airports she stopped over at. It could be possible, as the bags were not weighed during the stop-overs in her trip. There have alse been reports of baggage handlers being invovled in other drug smuggling rings and one baggage handler even took a camel-costume head out of luggage and wore in on the tarmac. For more information on Schappelle, see http://news.ninemsn.com.au/generic.aspx?sectionID=1697 Do you think she is guilty? |
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| Author: | Rob [ Wed May 25, 2005 7:47 am ] |
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I think she's innocent. |
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| Author: | bobjones [ Wed May 25, 2005 1:56 pm ] |
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totally innocent, poor girl. Importing marijuana to Bali is like importing heroin to Afghanistan. Also, none of the judges on the judicial panal who decide her fate have EVER aquitted a defendent. zero justice. |
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| Author: | PizzaTrophy [ Thu May 26, 2005 12:02 am ] |
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I voted innocent as well. The baggage handlers evidence seemed very admissable, but they should have had someone present on the stand to back it up. There's a big difference between Indonesian law and Australian law (my area of expertise). I think the judge is being slightly heartless...... I hope that if she is found guilty she can be sent back here to carry out her sentence. But then what about the other Australians in Indonesian prisons? This is a hot topic of discussion for the government at the moment, and they would have to fast-fast track something to make it work. The verdict is only 24 hrs away.. |
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| Author: | ModestlyHotGirl [ Thu May 26, 2005 1:05 pm ] |
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After having looked over the timeline on the site you linked to, I don't think she's guilty. One of the claims against her was that when her bags were searched, she seemed unwilling to open her bags. Sorry, but I don't think anyone is willing to have strangers go through their underwear. When I went to Japan, I had two big suitcases, both of which were about only half-full. I was helping my sister move back to Canada, so had a lot of extra space to put some of her things in there, and also, I planned to buy a lot of stuff. Well, they thought it was suspicious. They also were far too suspicious about the box of Froot Loops (my sister's favourite cereal) that I was taking. Anyway, she could just be playing up to the media and could be guilty, but my intuition says no. I'll check out that site after work tonight - I know what verdict I'm hoping for. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Thu May 26, 2005 1:45 pm ] |
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I don't know anything about the case, but for some reason this reminds me of the Azaria "Maybe the dingo ate your baby!" Chamberlain case. |
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| Author: | PizzaTrophy [ Thu May 26, 2005 10:35 pm ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: I don't know anything about the case, but for some reason this reminds me of the Azaria "Maybe the dingo ate your baby!" Chamberlain case.
Oh, THAT case. They made a mini-series about that and showed a lot of corrupt police officers... made a nice name for my city's police force back then! But I see where you are coming from.... Whatever the verdict, there will still be some doubt in the public as to if she really did or not. Even if she is acquitted (which seems unlikely, the judges have never acquitted someone accused of trafficking), she will still have to spend time in prison while the prosecution lodges an appeal (they definitely will). Only a few hours to go... |
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| Author: | PizzaTrophy [ Fri May 27, 2005 4:43 am ] |
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FOUND GUILTY'D! Sentenced to 20 years, appeal expected to be lodged within days. Although I believe she is innocent, I suspected that she would be found guilty, and be given less than the recommended life sentence. So who knows how long this could go for. Poor girl |
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| Author: | Rob [ Fri May 27, 2005 6:00 am ] |
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Also, I think I heard that the drugs are worth more in Australia than it would be in Indonesia. Why would anyone try to import drugs into Indonesia, where there are such strict laws, when the drugs aren't even worth more? |
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| Author: | ModestlyHotGirl [ Fri May 27, 2005 3:39 pm ] |
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Well, that's unfortunate. 20 years is much better than death by firing squad, though. |
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| Author: | Jitka [ Sat May 28, 2005 2:54 am ] |
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I had never heard anything about this case previously, because it has received absolutely zero coverage in the U.S. I really don't know enough yet to say whether I think she should have been convicted or not, but it seems to me like 20 years in jail is rather harsh for something as simple as drug smuggling. And the death penalty for that is just ridiculous. |
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| Author: | Rob [ Sat May 28, 2005 3:05 am ] |
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Even if she committed the crime (which I don't believe she did), 20 years in an Indonesian prison is way too harsh. |
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| Author: | Jitka [ Sat May 28, 2005 3:09 am ] |
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I have to wonder why this received no coverage in the U.S. It seems rather important. I've been watching the timeline and I think she was innocent. Hope she wins the appeal. |
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| Author: | Evin290 [ Sat May 28, 2005 3:13 am ] |
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JohnTheTinyCowboy wrote: I have to wonder why this received no coverage in the U.S. It seems rather important.
Duh! Because the runaway bride and the michael jackson trail are way more important! Sheesh... some people...
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| Author: | ModestlyHotGirl [ Sat May 28, 2005 3:14 am ] |
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Yeah, JTTC, it didn't get any coverage here either. Strange, no? I didn't realize she was appealing. I hope she at least gets her sentence reduced, or she gets to go home to Australia and serve it there. |
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| Author: | Jitka [ Sat May 28, 2005 3:26 am ] |
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I know I wouldn't want to serve two days in an Indonesian prison, much less 20 years. There's no way her trial could have been fair. She didn't even have a jury. Just three Indonesian guys, which seems more than a little unfair. I think part of the reason this was never reported in the U.S. is because the Scott Peterson case overshadowed a good portion of it. But that ended a while ago. |
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| Author: | Rob [ Sun May 29, 2005 9:54 am ] |
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Here's some videos (from Channel Nine). But you have to view it in Internet Explorer... And here's this page raises a few good points. |
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| Author: | PizzaTrophy [ Thu Jun 02, 2005 12:29 am ] |
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They have been saying that if her counsel appeals, her 20 year sentence could be overturned, and the judges in the High Court could have the death penalty re-instated if they think the 20 year penalty is too lenient. So to appeal is to dice with death. Her counsel are saying that she wasn't given a fair trial, because the judges said that she didn't prove her innocence. This goes against the rule of law, as a defendant is innocent until proven guilty, therefore she doesn't have to prove anything. Her trial is therefore unconstitutional under Indonesian law, which is the basis of the appeal. This appeals process could take at least another year to complete. I saw on the morning show footage from US show "The View" where ladies were briefly discussing it and the differences in the law, so I'm guessing there hasn't been much coverage at all. Some Australians are really taking the decision to heart, going so far as to break windows in Indonesian consulates in Australian cities, and even sending a biological substance similar to anthrax to the Indonesian Embassy in Canberra. This is pretty much amounting to terrorism to Indonesians. Sorry for the long winded post, but I still believe she is innocent, as there was not ultimate proof by the judges that she was guilty (fingerprinting the bags etc). |
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| Author: | Occasional JD [ Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:50 am ] |
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She is guilty! Did you read that her, her father, her mother and her brother had drug convictions! Or that the police found a massive stash in her house! If she is inocent, there is another theory I have: The baggage handlers put it in the bag to get it to some other handlers, but something went wrong. But what gets me really peeved, is that I heard it on Nova 106.9 (a "hit" music station), they all thought she was innocent and wouldn't take anyone elses opinion!!!!! Guess that's what you get when you have highschool dropouts on the air. |
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| Author: | StrongCanada [ Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:22 pm ] |
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occasional_JD wrote: She is guilty! Did you read that her, her father, her mother and her brother had drug convictions! Or that the police found a massive stash in her house! Whoa...although the members of my family are pretty good people, IMHO, I sure wouldn't want someone to judge me just because they did some bad things. occasional_JD wrote: But what gets me really peeved, is that I heard it on Nova 106.9 (a "hit" music station), they all thought she was innocent and wouldn't take anyone elses opinion!!!!! Guess that's what you get when you have highschool dropouts on the air.
I do agree that they should have listened to both sides of the story. As for my opinion on her guilt or innocence, I haven't read enough to form a conclusive opinion. Since she was convicted, then I hope she was guilty. If she's innocent, I hope she's acquited somehow. |
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| Author: | Rob [ Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:11 am ] |
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StrongCanada wrote: occasional_JD wrote: She is guilty! Did you read that her, her father, her mother and her brother had drug convictions! Or that the police found a massive stash in her house! Whoa...although the members of my family are pretty good people, IMHO, I sure wouldn't want someone to judge me just because they did some bad things. I'm pretty sure those rumours were proved false. |
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