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 Post subject: Satan: created by God so that He could blame him?
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:12 pm 
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woa. And I thought God whas good. Reading this IM even better...

http://www.nobeliefs.com/DarkBible/dark ... l-from-god

What yah''ll think? o.O


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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 3:09 pm 
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What kind of bible are you reading? God IS good ill tell you the story:
When god was president for heaven A angel was jelous for gods power Then he created chaos and god put him in a flaming room for punishment and then the bad angel took control if it and that is the story

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President for Heaven? That's an interesting take... :eek:

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President of heaven....*writes it down*

I always wondered about that, if god is so powerfull, why doesent he just smite satan?

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He intends to, once history has run its course.

About the Lamentations passage: the Hebrew term for "evil" is destruction. As anyone who studies Lamentations could tell you, Jeremiah is lamenting the destruction of Jerusalem which was ordained by God. As you could imagine, Jeremiah probably thinks it terribly unfair that he has to witness this; it is an honest expression of his own inner turmoil (wanting to believe that God is good, yet having to come to grips with this decree of destruction). And believe me, I've learned what that inner turmoil is like. I've lived it in my own life.

The evil spirit sent to haunt Saul was there on account of his arrogance, only Saul never learned his lesson. St. Paul (who, interestingly enough, was also named Saul prior to becoming an apostle) also had a similar evil spirit, only St. Paul learned humility from his, whereas Saul was driven mad. The interesting thing about this is that, while God himself is not evil, even the evil spirits cannot help but obey him when he commands them. Even Satan could only act when God gave him permission to do so.

Is God the source of evil? Well, it's hard not to draw that conclusion. It was clearly not God's intention in the beginning for evil to exist in the world (notice how many times God praises his creation as good in the first chapter of Genesis). Yet as a result of disobedience of men, it does.

In a lot of ways, this question is very similar to the one about God hardening Pharaoh's heart in Exodus. People want a god who doesn't punish evil or demonstrate his awexome power in destructive ways. A god who does these things might actually expect us to obey him. But Adonai Sabaoth (literally, God of Armies) will not be mocked. As Dr. Nagle once told us [accent=thick British] "Who are we to tell the Lord God how to do his Lord Godding?" [/accent] Even Jesus, the gentle Lamb of God, will return as a conquering warrior rather than as a gentle teacher.

But this same God who destroyed Jerusalem and permitted the devil to torment Saul, has done something at which I cannot help but marvel: He took one of the single most evil events in history, the crucifixion of his own son, and used it to bring reconciliation and peace to all mankind. He brought the greatest good out of the greatest evil.

As for president of heaven? Better change that to King, guy. A president is someone you give power to so he can lead you, but a king has power over you based entirely on who he is. While I'm not precisely what you'd call a monarchist, I do believe that God has the right to rule over people and to govern events of the world based entirely on the fact that he created all things. So get that president stuff out of there.

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i support that thought. hrmm... yes, verry interesting

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COLA, it seems that you'll believe anything. =/

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Ian, notice the date on that post. That was months ago. Since then COLA has had something of a different perspective.

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At a youth group party I once went to (after the pizza and gamingness) I heard it put like this...

God has won. God has always won. God will always win. Just because of the goodness factor he has. The only problem is, Satan is trying to go down with some dignity, and not get totally whipped. So there we go. :p

That's just one way I've heard it put.

hehehehehe, that party was so gosh durn fun. LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!! But Curtis wasn't allowed to take another stage dive off the Baptism pool... :((

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