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Thank you, Strong Rad. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Oh, and Communist tard, please refrain from the insults. I've reserved a few for you.

Yes. Please refrain from ad hominem argumentation. If you disagree with the man's policies, then state how so and offer a decent explanation. To just call a man stupid is, well, stupid.

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how about no. I think he is stupid, and you dont need to start insulting me because of that. the only reason you would need to take offense is if you were bush himself....... wait a minute........ could we acctually be talking to bush RIGHT NOW!??!?!

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If you were, you'd probably be UNDER the jail by now. But it is considered good practice not to insult someone when they are not there to defend themselves.

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I've always loved threads like this. And they all make me ask the question:

How horrible must it be to live in a country where such a man as BUSH can get elected President of the United States of America? I mean, if "Bush is bad", as one poster so eloquently put it, then it means that either roughly half of the population of the US are stupid, or half of us are "bad", too.

Yikes.

Two problems. One is this forum. Only 28% said they were a fan of bush. Next is the country. Not everyone voted. The results could have been way different if everyone had voted. People who don't vote have no right to complain about their country.

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Actually, I'd put that percentage of "stupid people" higher than 50%... You saw all the pointless bickering and namecalling that went on (FROM BOTH SIDES) leading up to the election.

I don't subscribe to the "If you didn't vote, you have no right to complain" thing, cus some people couldn't vote (some of them were too young). I do however think that "If you could vote and didn't vote, you shouldn't complain." I did vote, for Bush, so I really can't complain. I'm one of what appears to be a minority in this country that refuses to blame Bush for EVERY PROBLEM SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME... Don't get me wrong, he's screwed up, but I don't think the Civil War was his fault, nor do I blame the Dinosaurs going extinct on him (on second thought, oil is made of dinosaurs, so maybe he did kill them so his oil buddies could get richer)..

I also dispute the claim that he has "seperated our country".. I'm still good friends with a VERY liberal person (she hated Kerry because he was a "conservative"). If the rift was as bad as people claim, wouldn't she and I fight to the death on sight?

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

I disagree with the whole "If you didn't vote, don't complain" thing for this reason: you shove two less-than-ideal candidates in front of me and force me to choose one of them as my leader. Well, what if I don't want either one of them? I could vote independent, but then that's never gonna go anywhere.

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That's one thing the Canadian gov't has over the American (and it might be the only thing *sigh*) - we have more choices when it comes to voting for our leader....it's like choosing between 5 rats instead of just two.



I totally blame Bush for the hurricane. Totally his fault. [/sarcasm] Seriously, I agree with you SR. I don't care for Bush myself, but he's not the reason for ALL our problems.

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But the hurricane is his fault. It's a direct result of his environmental policies which have led to global warming. Or it was just a random weather event. People are saying that last year's hurricane season was the effect of global warming (they really need to study their climatology first).. Global warming, HA!

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

People say that the entire earth was once covered with ice. If that's true, then the globe has been warming up for the past 100,000 years.

Here's another problem: Mt. St. Helen's eruption caused more air polution and destruction of ozone layer in one day than Los Angeles does in a decade. So how you gonna prevent the earth from poluting itself? Huh? Answer me that!

But seriously. I support recycling and other intelligent conservation efforts. But global warming might very well be something we cannot prevent. We really have no idea what causes it, or how to prevent it. And what if it is a natural phenomenon?

Personally, I blame Bush for high gas prices.

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Interestingly enough, theories predict, and climate models suggest that global warming can trigger another ice age.. I'm-a hunt for some links for this and put em here, after I'm done with iSketch.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

StrongRad, I think you're thinking of The Day After Tomorrow.

We had an ice age when mankind wasn't using -ANY- pollutants. I highly suspect we'll have another one regardless of what we do.

Global warming has been happening for thousands of years. Mostly because of volcanoes. When one volcano goes off, it creates MORE POLLUTION than -all- of man's polution in history.

Now, I'm not saying that polluting is good. It's just not as vital as many people think.

Robert Frost comes to mind.

(and if you don't know what I mean, READ A BOOK!!)

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He's not a good president, and don't ask why cuz I'm to tired now to explain... I'll explain later.

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I think that President Bush is well... Let me show you his ability scores in D20 format. Any D&D players out there will get it.
Strength: Wasted on an unnecessary war.
Dexterity: Used to play Golf while the nation is in danger.
Constitution: In shambles.
Intelligence: Faulty.
Wisdom: Not present.
Charisma: There for the sole purpose of using the skill, "Intimidate."

Deviating from the topic to spread my hippiedom:


That state of mind is exactly WHY the independent candidates don't get very far. Perpetuating a vicious cycle, you are. Also, Instant Runoff Voting. Note the "based on Florida 2000" at the bottom of the ballot.

Toastpaint. To sum up my opinion of Bush, I will quote Ralph Nader and Kevin Zeese's "The 'I' Word":

"THE IMPEACHMENT of President Bush and Vice President Cheney, under Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution, should be part of mainstream political discourse.

Minutes from a summer 2002 meeting involving British Prime Minister Tony Blair reveal that the Bush administration was ''fixing" the intelligence to justify invading Iraq. US intelligence used to justify the war demonstrates repeatedly the truth of the meeting minutes -- evidence was thin and needed fixing.

President Clinton was impeached for perjury about his sexual relationships. Comparing Clinton's misbehavior to a destructive and costly war occupation launched in March 2003 under false pretenses in violation of domestic and international law certainly merits introduction of an impeachment resolution."

(I'd blockquote that, but HTML limitations prevent me from doing so.)

Here is the full article. And check out the blog of Congressman John Conyers, Jr. for further information on the Downing Street Minutes and more.

George W. Bush disassembled to the nation. Oh, I mean dissembled. Disassemble is what he did to the English language. (Regular The Daily Show viewers should get that last one.)

It gets real annoying when I go to a meeting with other ROTC guys and all they do is praise how great he is. I say, why? "Because he saved our country." Ok, how?
"Well, he brought the fight to the terrorists."
Ok fighting a war of ideologies with bullets...continue.
"Because he is a good Christian."
A secular leader voted in for his piety (not necessarily a bad thing, but in this case, he goes way past church and state)...keep going.
"The economy is strong."
Well, they say oil prices are the ultimate barometer for the economy...and they are at the highest during his tenure...mas, por favor.
"He is against abortion."
But claims he doesn't lose a night's rest after deciding to send troops to war...
"He pays us military more money."
Actually, the amount of college scholarships for all services has been cut dramatically, while benefits for veterans, such as paid healthcare, has been cut (my grandfather is a testament to that). And if the money goes to us, where does it come from? The taxes, which have been cut many times? Fund raisers (well, unless you plan to have a multi-million dollar inauguration party)?

And what about volunteer firemen, who have been left to rot after their promised federal aid for pay raises and better equipment and facilities never reached them (my uncle is a testament to that, as well)? Or the policemen who have dwindling numbers because many who are in the National Guard were sent over to Iraq after yearly recruitment numbers weren't even close to necessary goals? And of his views of changing the Constitution to create a bigoted, Christian amendment? Or the record number amount of days he goes on vacation? Or maybe the "tough statements" he took out on steroids in baseball, but then weakly recoiled when Raffy (a former Texas Ranger under Bush's ownership) was found to have taken steroids? Or when he made the outrageous claim that we would go to Mars, meanwhile pieces of foam are flying off antique space vessels? And Homeland Security, which has no money, no manpower, and the impossible task of guarding the area that makes up the USA. And while many people in Iraq welcomed us with open arms, many others are opening fire back at us. There's no way they ever sold the war to me, and I'm surprised the amount of support the Administration received from Americans.

"But he talks tough."
That's about all he does.

Worst of all, he takes no responsibility for anything he says or does. If you are a leader, you take responsibility, even if it isn't your fault sometimes. He has no leadership qualities, and only because he is my CIC will I listen to what he says.

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In his defense (and he seems to need a lot) he's not devoting his time to worrying about "evil" video games.. Those golf balls he's hitting must be more important.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

Do Kerry supporters just prefer Homestar Runner over Bush supporters, or do they just like the Internet and forums in general?

Dag, we've got a lot of Bush-haters here.

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I don't blame him for every problem, only the ones that clearly belong to him.

I am a Bush hater, I couldn't vote for a guy who got busted for cocaine possesion, that and a lot of other reason that I don't have the time to list.

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I don't think he was arrested for cocaine use. It's been speculated about him and I would not be AT ALL surprised, but the American people, dumb as they collectively are, would not have elected a convicted drug offender.

Now, drunk driving is a whole other story...

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Look, I don't give a crap whether you are a Bush-hater or not. All I was doing is asking why so many Kerry-supporters hang out on forums.

Dangit.

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I've heard two equally angering explanations.. As I don't see anything that makes fun of both sides offensive, I'll post them both..
There are so many more Kerry supporters on forums because they have nothing better to do and because redneck red-staters don't know how to use the internet.

Seriously, I just suppose it matters which forums you go on.. I want to see a fair and balanced set of forums (not Fox News' "Fair and Balanced" but real fair and balanced)... So far, even though it leans to the left, this forum is about as balanced as they come..
Go to the Yahoo! boards sometime.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you have an electrical problem.

Ahem, I didn't WANT to suuport Kerry. I was forced into it after Edwards lost the ballot. Anyway, you are true. Most forums are way way left, or way way right, so take into consideration how midlevel this is. Most people will say they are liberal, and agree on almost no liberal agendas. The flipside is also true. Anyway, the main point is, John McCain, Jon Stewart, and John Edwards should run the John Triumvirate and get this nation back on track.

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