Choc-O-Lardiac Arrest & me on Yahoo IM wrote:
djgecko27: So what's all this I hear about you & this Master Puzuzu guy?
strongbad20212000: ahh, im just studying the Occult, and im trying to prove that magic was given to King Solomon by god, and wrote scriptures about it, and was made into a book in 1923 called "The Key Of Solomon, the king"
djgecko27: o...k...
djgecko27: Magic? That comes from Satan
djgecko27: Don't believe anything in the Occult
strongbad20212000: no, magic was first given to king solomon, you say that king solomon was an evil man and went to hell because he studdied magic? no, magic was given to him by god, the lord of heaven and the earth, you search google for "Meaning Of a Pentegram"
djgecko27: God gave WISDOM to Solomon, dude
strongbad20212000: yes, and solomon distributed it in his scriptures witch has been translated into a book
djgecko27: Why wouldn't this magic have been in the Bible?
strongbad20212000: yes, but others benefited from his wisdom, what he wrote in his scriptures
strongbad20212000: because, the people who wrote the bible didnt belive in any of this, and belived that satan had givin gods powers to solomon
djgecko27: Why are you even believing occult writings anyway? All you wanted to do was "study the religiouse [sic] aspects of good and evil"
strongbad20212000: i know, but now its to where i have to defend the occult, and all types of magic
djgecko27: Satan doesn't give God's powers to anyone. Besides, who are these "people who wrote the Bible"?
djgecko27: It is the Word of God. So you're defending the Occult & going against God's Word now? So much for just studying it.
strongbad20212000: im not going against gods word, i am saying that the occult, nay, all types of magic has been missunderstood
djgecko27: You are, because any form of magic is against God
strongbad20212000: man, your a good debator, now this is the kind of talking i wanted to get into when i joind Hr forums
djgecko27: "No other gods, only me." Exodus 20:3 (The Message)
djgecko27: Then you should have brought it up
strongbad20212000: i did, by bringing it up, you and me have gotten into a heated debate
djgecko27: on the forum, I meant
strongbad20212000: well, i tried with that "Harry Potter Debate" thing
strongbad20212000: but that backfired, but it seems like this is going good at the debating part
djgecko27: The whole Harry Potter thing came from a fake article in a satire newspaper called The Onion
strongbad20212000: i know
djgecko27: It's all made up.
strongbad20212000: but alot of catholics and christians belived it because theybelive anything said by a preist, and if one priest said "This book is evil because it deals with magic, and magic is evil"
djgecko27: If The Onion's parody has demonstrated anything, it's that we should be worrying about adults not being able to distinguish between fiction and reality. The kids themselves seem to have a pretty good grasp of it.
strongbad20212000: exactally my point
djgecko27: well, your point wasn't clear in the Occult thread
strongbad20212000: i know, i wanted a debate, a really heated one like the one were having now
djgecko27: & it was shot down quickly
strongbad20212000: the occult thread? yeah, i know, but theres gonna be some debate for a while, or at least another week
djgecko27: But you're clearly losing
strongbad20212000: i know, but eitherway, i love a debate
djgecko27: You've clearly gone from intending to study the religious aspect of evil to defending it.
strongbad20212000: ive been studying the occult for a while
djgecko27: sad
strongbad20212000: not really, i just want to understand it
djgecko27: "strongbad20212000: i know, but now its to where i have to deffend the occult, and all types of magic"
djgecko27: I should post all this on the Occult thread
strongbad20212000: i am deffending it from christians who think its evil, but i am talking about defending things like kabalah, VooDoo, and paganism
djgecko27: They're all essentially evil because they're against God
strongbad20212000: go ahead, thats what i was hoping u do
djgecko27: Then everyone will see how wrong you are
djgecko27: So it's best to see the error of your ways (finally) & study the occult from a more neutral point of view, which you probably intended to do in the first place
strongbad20212000: thats what i have been doing, but i have chosen to defend magic and everything about it because most of it is not evil
strongbad20212000: but belive what you want, your entitled to your opinion
djgecko27: It doesn't seem evil, but worshipping something else besides God is evil
strongbad20212000: i am not worshiping somthing else, all this stuff is done under gods will
strongbad20212000: i am worshiping god,
djgecko27: Magic is not from God. You're worshipping God but defending evil--that's being a hypocrite, my friend. Face it.
strongbad20212000: my friend, i am defending evil because i am entitled to my right to defend anything i want, if somthing seems wrong in the world, i try to change it, i want people to think that magic is not evil, but a neutral party
djgecko27: How can you "Defend" evil yet worship God?
strongbad20212000: if i wanted to, id defend gay people if i wanted to
djgecko27: "Disaster will come upon you,
and you will not know how to conjure it away.
A calamity will fall upon you
that you cannot ward off with a ransom;
a catastrophe you cannot foresee
will suddenly come upon you.
Keep on, then, with your magic spells
and with your many sorceries,
which you have labored at since childhood.
Perhaps you will succeed,
perhaps you will cause terror.
All the counsel you have received has only worn you out!
Let your astrologers come forward,
those stargazers who make predictions month by month,
let them save you from what is coming upon you.-"Isaiah 47:11-13
strongbad20212000: evil as in magic, i am defending magic, to u it seems evil, but u dont know anything about the accult, i suggest you actually study magic for a little while, so you can see where im coming from
djgecko27: It IS evil!
djgecko27: "Now for some time a man named Simon had practiced sorcery in the city and amazed all the people of Samaria. He boasted that he was someone great, and all the people, both high and low, gave him their attention and exclaimed, "This man is the divine power known as the Great Power." They followed him because he had amazed them for a long time with his magic. But when they believed Philip as he preached the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women. Simon himself believed and was baptized. And he followed Philip everywhere, astonished by the great signs and miracles he saw."-Acts 8:9-13
djgecko27: " But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." Revelation 21:8
strongbad20212000: you win........., ill stop, your a better christian/catholic than me
djgecko27: I'm a Protestant
strongbad20212000: if ur still in school, you should join the debate team
djgecko27: I'm fine with theatre, thanks
strongbad20212000: im in theatre, im the best at my school, ya know
djgecko27: Sure
strongbad20212000: im serious, i did fiddler on the roof, hey, i g2sg, you put up a good debate
*bows*