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| Author: | Lord Sbu [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:01 pm ] |
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What do you consider your political alignment as? I would consider myself as an ultra-conservative, hard right-winger, staunch conservative, whatever. If you are looking for an affiliation or a definition of it, I suggest "The World's Smallest Political Quiz": http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz.html. I'm all the way to the right on that quiz btw. |
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| Author: | ThatGoblin [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:05 pm ] |
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I took that test thing and I was an Centrist. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:11 pm ] |
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I got Centrist, but I assume that's because I answered "Maybe" on several questions because I'm not well-enough informed about those particular issues to make a judgment right now. I was just on the line between Centrist and Left/Liberal. Oh, and the whole quiz seemed nice and non-partisan until this question: "Let people control their own retirement; privatize Social Security". The question implies that while Social Security isn't privatized, people don't have any control over their own retirement, which is of course nonsense. But I'm glad the quiz included all four directions, and not just Left/Right. Observation: If you answer "Agree" on all questions, you get hard Statist, and if you answer "Disagree" on all you get hard Libertarian. And of course if you answer "Maybe" on every question, you get Centrist. |
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| Author: | AgentSeethroo [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:18 pm ] |
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http://madrabbit.net/webrabbit/quizshow.html that says that I'm liberal...uhh... |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:22 pm ] |
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I'm a centrist leaning to the left..I wonder what the majority of H*R fans are,then we can determine if political preferences have anything to do with if you like the site or not. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:29 pm ] |
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AgentSeethroo wrote: http://madrabbit.net/webrabbit/quizshow.html
that says that I'm liberal...uhh... Ugh, this quiz is lame. "Even if it means cutting programs, spending must be cut to reduce the federal deficit. Agree or Disagree?" Um, which programs? I left almost half of them blank because the options provided were so limited and the questions so loaded, and it gave me a 5. |
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| Author: | Lord Sbu [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:31 pm ] |
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...and If you put all social disargeement and economic agreement, Interruptor Jones, you get a hard Right-Conservative. Vice versa, you get a hard Left-Liberal. You can mix it around, too. If you put all social disagreement, while having and alternating pattern of "Disagree" and "Maybe" for Economic (two disagree and three maybe, or vice versa), you get a Fascist standpoint (IMO). Socialism would be hard, it's more widespread. I took that quiz awhile back, Agent Seethroo. I got a 36 or something. But that quiz is awfully weird now that I remember it. Not as accurate. |
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| Author: | warlordofhomsaria [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:41 pm ] |
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i am centrist-right conservitive |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:08 pm ] |
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I'm a registered Democrat, although my family is generally Republican. I only registered for a party in order to be able to vote in primaries, which I'm probably never going to do anyway. I don't have too many political opinions because I'm not too well informed... overall, I'm liberal and somewhat socialist. I like it when the government gets into things when it doesn't have a big downside (other than tax dollars, but most things of that kind are usually paid for by everybody one way or another). |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Wed Aug 11, 2004 12:02 am ] |
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I try to vote intelligently. I base my decisions on which candidate represents my interests, is a good leader, and is a trustworthy person. I tend to like Republicans mostly--mainly because of their stances on traditional morality and life issues. I don't like Bush much, though. I thought he did okay in 2001 and 2002, but when he got us mixed up in all this Iraq junk, he lost my support. In 2000, I actually supported Alan Keyes. I thought he was an excellent candidate. He struck me as an intelligent man who stood for issues that concerned me. Unfortunately, good ol Bush came right in and took all the Republican support without even as much as trying. Needless to say, I was very disappointed in 2000. |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Wed Aug 11, 2004 1:05 am ] |
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I was on the libertarian side of centrist, and neither liberal or conservative.. Interesting. |
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| Author: | AgentSeethroo [ Wed Aug 11, 2004 2:48 pm ] |
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Wow...all this political stuff eludes me. Maybe I should be more interested in politics... |
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| Author: | Coach Mindwarp [ Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:33 pm ] |
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Moderate liberal. I like doing new things (which is mostly liberal). -Teh Coach |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Wed Aug 11, 2004 10:02 pm ] |
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Coach Mindwarp wrote: Moderate liberal. I like doing new things (which is mostly liberal).
Well, really that's progressive, but since "Progressive" isn't on the map we'll call it liberalish. |
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| Author: | fahooglewitz1077 [ Wed Aug 11, 2004 11:07 pm ] |
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I'm a pretty strong Republican, though I kinda like the ideas of Libertarianism. |
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| Author: | Brunswick Stu [ Thu Aug 12, 2004 1:10 am ] |
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very socially progressive. economically moderate. |
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| Author: | Lord Sbu [ Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:01 am ] |
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Quote: Well, really that's progressive, but since "Progressive" isn't on the map we'll call it liberalish.
Actually, Progressive is Liberal, not Liberalish. I think it means the same thing, not a different or even slightly different view. It probably is used to more convey social liberalism, but means the same thing. So does populism mean an economically liberal view (also applicable to their view of governmental responsibility). But it all means liberal. |
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| Author: | Lord Sbu [ Fri Aug 13, 2004 2:07 am ] |
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Quote: very socially progressive. economically moderate.
I put that in the quiz, the results are: According to your answers, your political philosophy is on the border of: left-liberal and libertarian I though so. |
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| Author: | talkz2much [ Fri Aug 13, 2004 11:41 pm ] |
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I took the quiz and got conservative, which is true.  The quiz didn't seem to have enough questions to be entirely accurate though.
I know this is off the subject, and I apoligize, but out of curiosity, how old are the people who post in this forum? I am fifteen, and the reason I ask is because I know most teenagers generally aren't in to politics, but all the adults I know couldn't care less about homestar runner and wouldn't be on this website. |
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| Author: | Tom [ Sat Aug 14, 2004 12:17 am ] |
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talkz2much wrote: I know this is off the subject, and I apoligize, but out of curiosity, how old are the people who post in this forum? I am fifteen, and the reason I ask is because I know most teenagers generally aren't in to politics, but all the adults I know couldn't care less about homestar runner and wouldn't be on this website.
I know this really isn't going to answer your questions fully, but here's a thread that might interest you. |
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| Author: | Professor No [ Wed Aug 18, 2004 12:49 am ] |
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I am a Libertarian, oh yeah! Actually I call myself a Republitarian because I support Pres Bush. My Age:14 |
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| Author: | Pardalis [ Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:22 pm ] |
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According to the quiz Left-Liberal. And this is probably true. In reality am Dutch and I am a socialist. I'll write down my political opinions here, and I will state that I have strong beliefs and that some of my words may offend. I do not mean any personal offense, or to troll, but I thought it was an interesting subject. I think people should be completely free to pursue their hearts, provided their freedom does not disturb the freedom of others. I think soft-drugs should be legalized as its less damaging then the perfectly legal alcohol. I also think this will reduce crime relating these things. Not legalizing medicinal soft drugs is barbaric in my view. I'm pro-choice when it comes to abortion, but I'd like to have things so that abortion will rarely neccesary. Both by providing a good system of adoption, and more importantly, and open attitude about sexuality, contraceptives and the like, both at home and in school. Although I personally consider abortion somewhat sad, I do not think the government has the right to decide this for someone, as it will also drive women to instead take illegal dangerous abortions. I think taxes are neccesary, and must be spent for the good of all, both in terms of maintaining good public services, and providing a network of social security to make sure everyone is taken care off where needed. I think its neccesary to maintain an army, but only for self-defence. I do not think its the job of the western world to police the rest of the world. Military service should only be voluntary. I am pro-sexual freedom, and I think gays should have exactly the same rights as straights, including the right to marry. I am for a complete and utter seperation of church and state, similar to the French model. I am also for religious freedom but I do not think any religious institution should get any money from the government. Let the religious pay for their own faith. I am 100% against censorship. I am also utterly opposed to any form of plutocracy. Taxes should be divided per income, with the rich paying the most, and the poor paying the least. Let the most powerful shoulders bear the heaviest burdens. I'm for open immigration laws between rich countries. I believe that there should be clemency towards refugees, within reason. But I do think economic immigrants should not be allowed into rich countries easily. As this might lead to educated workers leaving poorly developped countries where there contribution would be more valuable. Thus depriving their home country of skilled labor. Megacorporations should be under stricter laws. Outsourcing work to poor countries should be banned, exploiting poor workers in poorer countries should be banned as well. I think these ideas should be followed everywhere on the world, starting with the western world. I think the west should leave the muslim world be. They'll never come around if they keep getting reasons to see us as the enemy. Its best to leave them alone and just trade with them, each generation will likely become freer and less agressive. I've based my conclusions on what I've seen in the world and what I studied from history. I am convinced that this way will lead to the least crime and the most freedom, and thus the most pleasant society for everyone to live in. I don't think the rich and the religious should have the right to bully others to do their bidding or respect their beliefs to their own detriment. I know of libertarianism, but I consider it a flawed philosophy myself. And I think alot of libertarians are misguided, as I noted how alot of them actually are quite poor themselves. They would in their own ideal society probably be made legal slaves, as they seem to advocate early industrial-style economics. (Where the workers where treated as slaves, thus giving rise to things like socialism) Honestly.. liberatarians just confuse me. |
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| Author: | InterruptorJones [ Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:49 pm ] |
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Nice post, Pardalis. I agree on many points. But there's one thing I wanted to talk about. Pardalis wrote: Megacorporations should be under stricter laws. Outsourcing work to poor countries should be banned, exploiting poor workers in poorer countries should be banned as well.
Are you opposed to all outsourcing? It seems to me that outsourcing is damaging because it's cheaper for large corporations to move work to poor countries where they can legally pay tiny wages. Would you still be against all outsourcing if, for example, U.S. companies were required to pay overseas employees the equivalent of U.S. minimum wage? This would have one of two effects: The companies would pull out of these other countries because the cost benefit had disappeared, or the workers overseas would have a vastly increased quality of life. |
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| Author: | furrykef [ Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:04 pm ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: Would you still be against all outsourcing if, for example, U.S. companies were required to pay overseas employees the equivalent of U.S. minimum wage?
Heck, I think we should enforce that and then give the companies incentive to outsource! (But not so much that we all lose our jobs.) - Kef |
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| Author: | Pardalis [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:30 am ] |
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InterruptorJones wrote: Nice post, Pardalis. I agree on many points. But there's one thing I wanted to talk about.
Pardalis wrote: Megacorporations should be under stricter laws. Outsourcing work to poor countries should be banned, exploiting poor workers in poorer countries should be banned as well. Are you opposed to all outsourcing? It seems to me that outsourcing is damaging because it's cheaper for large corporations to move work to poor countries where they can legally pay tiny wages. Would you still be against all outsourcing if, for example, U.S. companies were required to pay overseas employees the equivalent of U.S. minimum wage? This would have one of two effects: The companies would pull out of these other countries because the cost benefit had disappeared, or the workers overseas would have a vastly increased quality of life. Mmm... Well as it is NOW, I'm completely against outsourcing. As it both exploits the foreign workers and leaves the domestic ones jobless. Whilst allowing the fatcats to fill their pockets merrily in the mean time. But if they were forced to pay the foreign workers US minimum wage. (Which'd be well above local minimum wage, which might concist of a bowl of rice, occasionally with some vegetables, and maybe with one chunk of meat once a month) I wouldn't be entirely opposed to it, as long as it was done within limit. There have to remain enough jobs on the homefront as well, the more employment in your home country, the better its economy. But if under stricter laws, I can approve of some outsourcing. |
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| Author: | Lord Sbu [ Thu Aug 26, 2004 11:58 pm ] |
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Interesting, Pardalis. A socialist you are indeed. I won't debate what you put down, since I don't think that is the purpose of this thread. I guess I'll put my beliefs down, if nobody minds. I'm a strong conservative simply put. I am Christian fundamentalist in morals views. I approve a ban on same-sex marriage, and I do not tolerate homosexuality. I am pro-life strongly; I hate any form of abortion, it's murder to me. I strongly approve tax cuts, and I like the idea of the flat tax. Taxing puts a strangle on the economy. If people weren't taxed as much, everyone could keep their money that they earned. If tax burden and government regulations were lifted from businesses, they could have more profit. Thus, they could hire more people, like those who are poor or without jobs, making businesses grow. Taxing doesn't help the poor, the lack of it does. I am pro-military, and I support the Iraq War. I think we should be able to defend ourselves by defeating murderous dictators, which also helps the oppressed in the world. By defeating terrorism around the world, we protect us and we also help the world in fighting our foes. I am anti-UN, it's a useless and weak organization that welcomes dictators and despots while trying to aimlessly project peace. I say "Peace Through Strength." I believe we need strict immigration laws. If they want to be American, they need to do it legally and follow the rules. I think we should also fight drugs, which damage a person as they lead a shorter and helpless life as he/she is addicted to them. I'm against welfare. A person needs to work for money, not government bending themselves to help the poor by strangling economies. Charities are good, but the government has no business straining everyone else for the poor. There, that's a view of my views. |
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| Author: | Kaffiene [ Tue Aug 31, 2004 3:16 am ] |
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I am definitely centrist. My parents are hard-line Conservative (not very common in Canada..it seems) although I agree with some of their policies, like focussing on economy and at least slightly contributing to the military, I also have Liberal views as well. Namely allowing immigrants access to my country and all of its resources, and keeping equal rights for everyone among others. |
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| Author: | AgentSeethroo [ Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:00 pm ] |
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Kaffiene wrote: at least slightly contributing to the military
I guess a little is better than nothing. *sigh* |
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| Author: | soce,the elemental wizard [ Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:31 pm ] |
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I'm a liberal, but I have some conservative leanings.. definitely voting Democrat, though. I feel like most homestar fans are extremely conservative. Am I wrong? --eocs |
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| Author: | thefreakyblueman [ Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:23 pm ] |
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I got Left-Liberal. That surprised me. I don't necessarily consider myself that much to the left, I tend to think I'm centrist with a few nodes to the left. Ah, well. Since it's the trend, I'll put a few of my views down. I am fully for the right to marry, regardless of your sexual preference (this is a free country, isn't it?). I'm not too one-sided on abortion, but I think that a woman's right to choose should stay intact, but only in certain circumstances (like an involuntary pregnancy). Since I'm not yet dealing with taxes, I should wait for a final decision, but cutting taxes recklessly (50% as stated in the quiz) is an amazingly stupid thing to do (look at America's economy after Bush's tax cuts). |
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