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Author:  DeadGaySon [ Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:11 pm ]
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Why isn't anyone happy anymore? Is it because of political or religious unfullfillment? Are we all just whining sissies?

I would like this to be steered towards a political/sociological discussion, just so you know ;)
Author:  Didymus [ Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:14 pm ]
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I'ma vote for "whining sissies." You should add a poll to this thread.
Author:  Smorky [ Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:23 pm ]
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The people who seem to be the most unhappy are the rich and greedy people who will never be satisfied with what they have. Poor people who are satisfied with their possesions are much happier than the rich people.
Author:  Encountering Gremlins [ Sun Aug 28, 2005 10:48 pm ]
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Smorky wrote:
The people who seem to be the most unhappy are the rich and greedy people who will never be satisfied with what they have. Poor people who are satisfied with their possesions are much happier than the rich people.


Right on. I know this is a cliche (*GROAN*), but I'm of the belief that it's impossible for anyone to find true happiness if they never go through times of sadness and suffering, and It's those times that make you really appreciate what's TRULY worthwhile in life. As far as my social class goes, I come from one of those families that's in the middle ground between completely spoiled and totally unfortunate, as probably a lot of us here do, so I can relate at least some to both the poor and rich. Maybe being in the 'middle class' has more to do with my mood swings than I realize. :mrgreen:
Author:  extremejon09 [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:16 am ]
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Smorky wrote:
The people who seem to be the most unhappy are the rich and greedy people who will never be satisfied with what they have. Poor people who are satisfied with their possesions are much happier than the rich people.


*SLAP SLAP SLAP*
Stupid Cliches.

I'm poor and greedy, and quite happy to be so.
Author:  seamusz [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:37 am ]
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Smorky wrote:
The people who seem to be the most unhappy are the rich and greedy people who will never be satisfied with what they have. Poor people who are satisfied with their possesions are much happier than the rich people.


Alas, being rich has nothing to do with happiness, imo. I think that greedy has more to do with it. I believe you will find that everyone who refuses to be satitisfied with what they have, will not be a happy person. I say satisfied, but I mean someone who puts more effort into getting more, more, more, instead of stopping to enjoy what they have. This goes for poor and rich alike. The rich man who lives for the next raise, next promotion, next whatever, is just as unhappy as the poor man living for whatever vice that he craves.
Author:  Smorky [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:54 am ]
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seamusz wrote:
Smorky wrote:
The people who seem to be the most unhappy are the rich and greedy people who will never be satisfied with what they have. Poor people who are satisfied with their possesions are much happier than the rich people.


Alas, being rich has nothing to do with happiness, imo. I think that greedy has more to do with it. I believe you will find that everyone who refuses to be satitisfied with what they have, will not be a happy person. I say satisfied, but I mean someone who puts more effort into getting more, more, more, instead of stopping to enjoy what they have. This goes for poor and rich alike. The rich man who lives for the next raise, next promotion, next whatever, is just as unhappy as the poor man living for whatever vice that he craves.


I guess you're right, I just think rich people are more likely to be greedy.
Author:  seamusz [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:08 am ]
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Smorky wrote:
I guess you're right, I just think rich people are more likely to be greedy.


ever heard of welfare? :O

Well, you don't see many millionares holding up banks at gunpoint do you... of course the wealthy are much more creative when it comes to stealing... they just try to do it legally, which doesn't really make it right. Actaully, you are probably right, the wealthy probably are more inclined to want more and more.... but who knows?
Author:  Ju Ju Master [ Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:35 am ]
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Encountering Gremlins wrote:
Smorky wrote:
The people who seem to be the most unhappy are the rich and greedy people who will never be satisfied with what they have. Poor people who are satisfied with their possesions are much happier than the rich people.


Right on. I know this is a cliche (*GROAN*), but I'm of the belief that it's impossible for anyone to find true happiness if they never go through times of sadness and suffering, and It's those times that make you really appreciate what's TRULY worthwhile in life. As far as my social class goes, I come from one of those families that's in the middle ground between completely spoiled and totally unfortunate, as probably a lot of us here do, so I can relate at least some to both the poor and rich. Maybe being in the 'middle class' has more to do with my mood swings than I realize. :mrgreen:


I agree, you really can't appreciate somethign until it's gone for a while. Kinda reminds me of some experence I had recently..

Anyways, I don't see many unhappy people around where I live, everybody's happy-dappy, and if they're not, the goons coem f - I mean nothing happens. Ithink so many people are unhappy aroudn other parts of the US and the world, though, is because there are a few little things that they don't like, so they get mad and blame the governemt because they don't heklp the minority, even though they're the majority in most othe things.
Author:  gone [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:37 am ]
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Well, I don't really have a theory. I myself in the last 2 years was in poverty. There were some nights where we didn't have dinner, because we has nothing in our fridge. I'm not looking for any pitty, honesly. I know there are so many more people who have suffered so much more than my family and myself. But I also know people who have alot more than my family as well.

But, I am as you say "depressed", and have been since the first day of school. Ever since I could remember, people have always judged everybody, especially me, because I was always the outcast, quiet, loner kid, and have never had any brothers/sisters, or any other type of family members to help me from the bullies. I also never had any friends till I got into grade six.

I guess it depends where your surroundings are, and the people who surround you. And there are so many more unhappy people today, because the majority of the world and its peoples are getting more greedy and more selfish, and tend to judge people very badly. I'm not saying that people have never judged, but now days it's worse than ever. Well, that's why im not the cheery type. :sad:

I mean, just look how so many people now days have committed sucide. One of my cousins have even done so, and I miss him dearly. But you would harly (if even) ever hear of such things, that is untill society started to grow rapidly, and thus so many problems were caused. I'm not sure where I got this quote from, but it pretty much explains what every sucide victim was probably thinking before they killed themselfs-- “What good is a long life to us if it is hard, joyless and so full of suffering that we can only welcome death as a deliverer?”
Author:  Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:26 am ]
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Here's another question: Were people of any timeframe happier than people from any other timeframe?

I'm guessing no because of the natural human desire for more and because that desire didn't just pop up in the last 20 or so years I'm thinking that people were just as messed up and unhappy as they are today.
Author:  DeadGaySon [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:08 am ]
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Perhaps people from another time frame were happier. Like Strong Sad said, with the worlds economy rapidly growing, and new previously unavailable priveledges being availably to almost everyone, there's the greedy factor. Greed only adds more misery to the world.

Another idea is that with all of this new crap being advertised in magazines and such, many of us feel unfulfilled with what me have. Previous to mid century or so, or possibly even before that, people knew exactly what they wanted from life. They wanted to find a good husband/wife, have kids, raise them, die. Now people, dare I say it, have dreams. It's not a bad thing, but sometimes those dreams don't get fulfilled. It's life.
Author:  Helmut [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:28 pm ]
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Smorky wrote:
Poor people who are satisfied with their possesions are much happier than the rich people.


No they're not.
Author:  Smorky [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:38 pm ]
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thesgman wrote:
Smorky wrote:
Poor people who are satisfied with their possesions are much happier than the rich people.


No they're not.


Um... yes, they are. And I meant rich and greedy people, not rich people who are also satisfied with their possessions.
Author:  Didymus [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:46 pm ]
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I think 3/4 of it is your attitude. I've been poor in my life. Heck, the first decent paying job I ever had was at Immanuel Lutheran Church about 3 years ago, and even then, I made less than 25,000 that year.

Some of you guys working retail and trying to pay for college can probably relate to some of my experiences, like sometimes not even knowing how you're going to pay your rent next month.

Personally, over the years, I have found that there are two things that really contribute to my happiness overall:

1. A sense of personal self-worth. For me, this comes from knowing that God paid a great and terrible price for me--his own suffering and death--and therefore considers me valuable. The way other people value me as a person helps tremendously as well.

2. A sense of purpose in life. For me, it is what I do for a living. Touching people's lives and being there for people in their times of need bring a sense of fulfillment to me. It's a very powerful feeling, sometimes stronger than love (and by "love" I mean the kind between a man and a woman).

I find right now that there is only one thing missing in my life, and that is someone to share it with. But even then, I sometimes find that friends I have often help to fill that need. Friends like QC and SC who occasionally give me a kind word of encouragement when I'm down, or my classmates from the seminary who listen to my problems and understand them. Even you guys here on the forum with whom I can joke around and laugh.

I did not enter holy ministry to become rich. And I probably never will be. But why should I care? I have everything else I need in life.
Author:  Helmut [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:49 pm ]
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Smorky wrote:
Um... yes, they are. And I meant rich and greedy people, not rich people who are also satisfied with their possessions.


Well greedy folks are helpless; I can't imagine having the insane amounts of ambition of some people.
Author:  Didymus [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:53 pm ]
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I'll be willing to admit it's because they never quite develop a real sense of self-worth or a sense of purpose in life. As a result, they keep trying to fill an empty void in their lives, and the only thing that they can find to fill it is vain ambition and greed, which themselves are empty and void.
Author:  DeadGaySon [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:04 pm ]
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I agree w/ Diddy on the attitude thing. Last year, there was a bunch of crap going on in my life, and I was really pessimistic about the whole situation. I viewed every day as an oncoming struggle.

Then, at the beggining of last summer, I broke in half all of the depressing CD's I had been listening too, learned about a whole new style of music, and completely changed my outlook on life. I laugh as much as I can now, and every day is an opportunity. No situation in my life changed, my freinds and family and life are all the same, but the way I chose to deal with it made my life really worth living.
Author:  Didymus [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:26 pm ]
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Not that changing our attitude is always easy. Sometimes, especially when you're going through some rough crap in life, it's not that easy. But you do have a valid point. There comes a time when we must realize that we do have at least a little bit of control over our own attitudes.

Sometimes that takes work, though. Believe me, I know. I've had some pretty intense struggles the past few years.
Author:  DeadGaySon [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:57 pm ]
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It takes a lot of work. But in the end, you have to decide if it's better to not make the effort, or to continue life the way it is. Attitude it what it's about.

Might it be that pop culture has glorified bummyness?
Author:  Mr. Sparkle [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:04 pm ]
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I blame cable news, bringing us every sad story 24 hours a day.
Author:  Didymus [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:11 pm ]
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I blame the fact that there really isn't that much in our modern culture to point people to those two things I listed earlier in this page: (1) sense of self-worth, and (2) sense of purpose. And without these two things, there's just not that much to be happy about, really. It's the "Love your neighbor as you love yourself" principle.

But, you know, things like Hurricane Katrina can at times help people recognize these things. Props to all the volunteers who have helped with relief efforts.
Author:  DeadGaySon [ Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:41 pm ]
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*throws props at volunteers*
what does a prop look like?

Anyway....

The thing that makes me happy is my freinds. That's what give's me my sense of self-worth. They also make me laugh! But seriously, when seven people run across a soccer field in the middle of their break from marching band practice to hug you (somewhat violently) then you know you matter to someone.

That's my idea of happiness.
Author:  Einoo T. Spork [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:29 am ]
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DeadGaySon wrote:
*throws props at volunteers*
what does a prop look like?


You know, like a giant egg or a giant letter T or a yellow, squishy ball... A prop! You know, like on that TV show on ABC Family! :p
Author:  DeadGaySon [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:06 am ]
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I would like to take this time (1 in the morning for me) to quote one of my favorite movies.

"Heather, if we were happy every day of our lives, we wouldn't be humn beings; we'd be game show hosts."
Author:  King Nintendoid [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:03 pm ]
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Didymus wrote:
I blame the fact that there really isn't that much in our modern culture to point people to those two things I listed earlier in this page: (1) sense of self-worth, and (2) sense of purpose.


Yes there is. It's called video games :)

No, seriously, video games keep me happy.
Author:  racerx_is_alive [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:05 pm ]
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DeadGaySon wrote:
Then, at the beggining of last summer, I broke in half all of the depressing CD's I had been listening to


That reminds me of something a long time ago. When I was 15 or 16 I listened to mostly country music. I was also depressed most of the time. I realized that the music was depressing me even more, so I stopped listening to it. It totally changed me back then.
Author:  DeadGaySon [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:22 am ]
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Yeah, country will sometimes do that to ya. Me rain coat ran away and my dog leaks, that kind of thing.

Wich gives me an idea!

Might it be that this sure in 'emo' culture in the teenage population contributes to more self-mutilation/suicide? I'm not suggesting that music is the cause of these things, but you get sucked into this musical fad that is all about morbidity and depression, don't you thnik you are bound to start to think that was too?

For those who don't know what emo is, it's a recent mainstream musical fad, popular in high schools and junior highs around the nation. Three of the more popular groups are My Chemical Romance, the Used, and Taking Back Sunday, although most quote unquote "emo's" will tell you that they listen to less well-known bands, they will all list the exact same bands that aren't so well known. They talk like gangsters, love the word elektrik, and take pictures of themselves and put them oin urbandictionary.com. Just another silly trend, but here's the important part.

The glorifacation of self-mutilation. not all do, but I've met a lot of people, and am under the impression that it's not viewed as a terrible, awful, horrific, and shocking thing. It's normal. Things like this make waves. Could this be part of the unhappiness?
Author:  soce,the elemental wizard [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:58 pm ]
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I agree with a lot of what people are saying.. it's all about your outlook on life-- some people will be like "oh this is just awful.. I can't make it through the day".. whereas other people will say "interesting.. this presents me with a new and exciting challenge.. a way to grow and discover new things about myself and the world around me." So which type of person are you?

There was a time recently when I was feeling down because all these people were coming at me in a way I couldn't handle-- I felt overwhelmed.. but then I asked some others for advice, and they told me how to handle the situation in a way that keeps everyone happy.. and now I feel much better!

It's always nice to have someone to talk to whenever you want to-- often someone else can put things in a different perspective-- so.. yeah.. hang out.. talk it out.. get exercise.. smile and laugh.. try new things-- exude love--
Author:  DeadGaySon [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:15 pm ]
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*pokes at unconcious thread*

Yes. People are the thing that make me happy. In fact, just last night I stayed up until one in the morning with my freinds laughing my head off. but anyway...

In the past, it was more difficult for people to contact each other, stay in touch, ect. It was also difficult to do so without being scandelous. Because of this, people in the past attatched themselves more to their family. Could the lack of family connection in a lot of people's live's be the cause of a lot of unhappiness.
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