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 Post subject: No more marriage in Sweeden!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:09 pm 
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You gotta love those Sweedish Liberals.

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 Post subject: Re: No more marriage in Sweeden!
PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:35 pm 
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Umm....wow. That's a first for me. I really don't know what to say. But you gotta hand it to those Sweeds, always making history.

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That's excellent. The fact that any government which espouses separation of church and state has their hand in the marriage business at all is ridiculous.

Since I don't know much about Swedish culture, I don't really have any sense of how likely this is to pass, but I really hope it does and sets and example for the Western world.

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And personally, I hope just the opposite. I hope conservative groups rise up and stuff this legislation into the toilet where it belongs.

But from what I gather, Sweden is already on the far left, so that's not likely to happen.

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This sounds like the Swedes have had one too many Swedish Meatballs. I am with Dids on this one, I hope it gets shot down.

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Hmmm.. I don't even know where to begin on this one.. Sounds like someone's bitter about something..

First off, before you read the rest of this post, realize this: I do not care about the diversity of my workplace, school, neighborhood, etc. If it's diverse, it's diverse. If it's not, it's not. Doesn't really matter to me. I think that, as a whole, we benefit from diversity, but I don't directly factor it into the decisions about school, work, home, etc. I live where I live, go to school where I go to school, work where I work, etc.

Second, I have no problem with equality. I support equality in all forms, but I don't think equality should be encouraged or mandated by law, simply because there is no non-discriminatory way to do so (that I know of).

The last line got me..
"The all-female board also says it wants to introduce gender quotas on company boards."
I have 2 things to say about this... 1) Quotas almost always lead to animosity disrespect for anyone of the "protected" classes... The minority on the board is seen as the "affirmative action seat" or something similar.."We all know why she's here" type stuff pops up, even when it's wrong.. I feel the same about affirmative action in America.. It creates more anger, racism, sexism, etc. than it fixes..
2) If their board was forced to allow males, they would probably be the first to scream about how the government needs to stay out of their lives..

Of course, I could be wrong, they may REALLY want equality, although, it seems like any more, those most vocal about "equality" and "diversity" rarely want true equality and diversity.. They usually want to be treated better than their "oppressors"...

Of course, this is just my view on it. I'm sure there are those who won't agree, and that's cool...

As far as the Government banning marriage, that's bad... But I realize they are just saying that it shouldn't be sanctioned by the state.. I got no problem with that. Marriage, to me, is the union of two people in front of God, and maybe some peoples. If the state doesn't recognize someone loves someone else enough to devote their lives to them, does it mean that they truely don't love each other? Nah..

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This sounds like the Swedes have had one too many Swedish Meatballs. I am with Dids on this one, I hope it gets shot down.

ya know, theres not many conservratives anymore. it seems that were all conservrative, doest it?

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Beyond the Grave wrote:
This sounds like the Swedes have had one too many Swedish Meatballs. I am with Dids on this one, I hope it gets shot down.

ya know, theres not many conservratives anymore. it seems that were all conservrative, doest it?


No... Actually, there are some rather leftist people on here...

I like to think I'm a moderate.. It's not that there are many issues I'm moderate on, but, if you take an average, I'm somewhere in the middle.

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Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:
Beyond the Grave wrote:
This sounds like the Swedes have had one too many Swedish Meatballs. I am with Dids on this one, I hope it gets shot down.

ya know, theres not many conservratives anymore. it seems that were all conservrative, doest it?
I am not conservative at all, I'm not liberal either, I'm a moderate.

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Beyond the Grave wrote:
Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:
Beyond the Grave wrote:
This sounds like the Swedes have had one too many Swedish Meatballs. I am with Dids on this one, I hope it gets shot down.

ya know, theres not many conservratives anymore. it seems that were all conservrative, doest it?
I am not conservative at all, I'm not liberal either, I'm a moderate.

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well looks like we got more mods than i thought.
im starting to paint toast, i know, i know.

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Meh, I didn't vote for 'em. Well, I'm just 16 so i can't vote yet anyway...


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 Post subject: Re: No more marriage in Sweeden!
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seamusz wrote:
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You gotta be kidding. Next thing we know they'll wanna abolish laws because they infringe on civil liberties.

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I'm liberal, and I STILL think this is crazy. What the heck were these guys thinking?

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Instead the group, which is expected to become a fully-fledged political party following the meeting, wants a 'cohabitation law' which ignores gender - and allows for more than two people to be included.


Waitwaitwaitwaitwait. More that two people? I'm sorry, that's just crazy. Yes, I read through the article, but I still can't see where they're coming from.

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I, personally think this is the best thing to come from sweden since The Hives. (the cohabitation law, not the complete abolition of marriage) America should take a gander at this and say, "Hey they're giving people of different marital preferences equal rights. Why shouldn't we?". But i somehow doubt that the Bible pound of the American executive branch will oust it. (even though its a state matter). Yup, I knew I would turn this into a gay marriage thing. But also you have to wonder. Has the sanctity of marriage been los over there like it has over here? Such as drive through chapels and pre-nups?

A complete abolition of state-viewed marriage doesn't seem to bad. It will involve alot less paperwork. But still that cohabitation idea is what America need right now.

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 Post subject: Re: No more marriage in Sweeden!
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seamusz wrote:
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Finally, SOMEONE is conceiving a relatively intelligent solution to that whole "gay marriage" thing. America SHOULD look at what they're doing.

The abolotion of marriage is really far too radical, but the concept is great. What if America keeps marriage and makes a different....thing...for people who want to get married for marriage's contemparary purpose, love, as opposed to having babies, that has the same legal benifits as marriage?

Yes I HAVE wanted to say that for a while now...


However, quotas for women in the workplace is not such a good idea. I'm not a big fan of affirmative action.

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The abolotion of marriage is really far too radical, but the concept is great. What if America keeps marriage and makes a different....thing...for people who want to get married for marriage's contemparary purpose, love, as opposed to having babies, that has the same legal benifits as marriage?


They do. They're called Civil Unions, but the current administration wants to ban those for gay people too.

Toaspaint, I think that the abolition of marriage is a bit much, and it probably won't pass, even in Sweden. At least, I hope not...

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JohnTheTinyCowboy wrote:
Toaspaint, I think that the abolition of marriage is a bit much, and it probably won't pass, even in Sweden. At least, I hope not...


I agree with Mr. Jitka on this matter. Not gonna pass. Not even in Sweden.

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