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Author:  Swooshoman [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 4:23 pm ]
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How many people here are Jewish? I am just curious - I myself am actually Baptist. I just wanted to know.
Author:  Didymus [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:41 pm ]
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I know maybe three. Evin, Soce, and somebody else, I forget. But shouldn't this be under the Religion board?
Author:  Trev-MUN [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:46 pm ]
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I saw this at first and thought "Oh ho ho, somebody's trying to be a funy man (typo intentional in this case) with the puns."

Because it almost sounds like "Youse know we have a wiki, right?"

Then I read the topic and was relieved. D:
Author:  Didymus [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:47 pm ]
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If it was that, it woulda been spelled, "Joos" instead of "Jews."
Author:  thefreakyblueman [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:48 pm ]
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I was raised Jewish, and I like to still think I am, but I'm tipped to a more agnostic belief as of now. Yeah, yeah, I've heard it before and will inevitably hear it later, "You don't believe in God because you weren't raised Christian!"--and I agree. I wasn't totally immersed in religion in the past years, which may explain why I'm less than religious, but it also gave me a clearer (in my opinion) view on the world. I always related going to a house of worship to watching an infomercial; the more you do it, the more you believe it.

By the way, please don't take offense if you are a religious person--this is just my view on it (whether off topic or not).
Author:  Shopiom [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:51 pm ]
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I'm half-Jewish, if that counts.
Author:  Sui [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 7:05 pm ]
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Didymus wrote:
I know maybe three. Evin, Soce, and somebody else, I forget. But shouldn't this be under the Religion board?


Well, GTKY is relating to personal details and the like, while R&P is for the discussion of religion and politics. A discussion of... dang, what is to Jewish as Christianity is to Christian? Well, a discussion of such would be suited for R&P, yeah, but this, I'd say it's best in GTKY.

Seeing as I'm posting something, won't hurt to mention that I'm Roman Catholic.
Author:  Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:16 pm ]
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I'm a semi-practicing half jew
Author:  Einoo T. Spork [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:28 pm ]
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Sui wrote:
...dang, what is to Jewish as Christianity is to Christian?


I believe it's "Jew".
Author:  Shishu Hiwatari [ Sun Sep 18, 2005 9:56 pm ]
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I'm that other Jewish person.

Oh yes. My bat mitzvah was like, a little less than a year ago. I made a politicalish speech that amazed like, everybody. Also rocked cause the head rabbi did the service X) And he's freakin awesome.

Still going to Hebrew school too.

No, I'm orthadox, I love shrimp and bacon. 100% reform, and dang proud of it. Though my dad goes to services like, every friday night, as well as the ones for all the b'nei mitzvahs I go to. Reform Juddism is fun cause you can intereperet stuff any way you like.

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...dang, what is to Jewish as Christianity is to Christian?

I think you mean Juddism. ;)
Author:  thefreakyblueman [ Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:30 am ]
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Shishu Hiwatari wrote:
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...dang, what is to Jewish as Christianity is to Christian?

I think you mean Juddism. ;)

Judaism. =D

And I too was a reformed Jew--I credit that also to my further opened view on life.
Author:  Occasional JD [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:42 am ]
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My Great-Grandmother was a practicing Jew. So...
Author:  Acekirby [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:05 pm ]
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occasional_JD wrote:
My Great-Grandmother was a practicing Jew. So...

...you actually don't have to be Jewish. People don't always continue the religion that their family teaches. Just saying. ;)

And no, I'm not Jewish.
Author:  ModestlyHotGirl [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:42 pm ]
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Yeah, seeing as how this is a religious-type topic, I'ma move it to R&P. I know it's not a debate, but neither are some of the other threads in there.

And I'm not Jewish.
Author:  Funkstar [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:48 pm ]
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ModestlyHotGirl wrote:
Yeah, seeing as how this is a religious-type topic, I'ma move it to R&P. I know it's not a debate, but neither are some of the other threads in there.

And I'm not Jewish.


Thanks for moving this. I don't usually look in R&P because I don't like the type of stuff we talk about here, so I didn't want it bothering me in Getting To Know You.
Author:  ModestlyHotGirl [ Tue Sep 20, 2005 10:16 pm ]
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Funk-yin-chow wrote:
I didn't want it bothering me in Getting To Know You.


You know you can just ignore it, right? :rolleyes:
Author:  DeadGaySon [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:34 pm ]
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I've got one really good jewish freind, who converted from being an agnostic. Her family are devout christian koreans, and her grandmother would rather her be athiest that jewish. It kind of sucks, because she can never go to an organised temple to worship or anything like that. She practises herself though, so I guess it's cool.

I have another freind who's whole family converted to juddism when her uncle got married, but then he got divorced.

My point is, I guess, that I'm not jewish, but I'm not entirely unfamilliar w/ it.
Author:  Cobalt [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 7:49 pm ]
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hey! Jew over here, too.

i consider myself Orthodox, just a very bad one. :p
Author:  Li'l somethin somethin [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 9:51 pm ]
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I'm Jewish. I go to an orthodox synagogue, but only on high holidays.
Author:  Shishu Hiwatari [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:03 pm ]
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Li'l somethin somethin wrote:
I'm Jewish. I go to an orthodox synagogue, but only on high holidays.

Kind of defeats the purpose....seriously. :/
Author:  Cobalt [ Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:13 pm ]
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Shishu Hiwatari wrote:
Li'l somethin somethin wrote:
I'm Jewish. I go to an orthodox synagogue, but only on high holidays.

Kind of defeats the purpose....seriously. :/


i disagree. it's better than nothing, isn't it? i'm not the most religious guy either, but i do think that Orthodox would be the way to go. we're all at our different levels, you know? if you believe that something is True, whether you adhere to it as strictly as you could, i think, is less important than knowing what you *should* be aspiring to.
Author:  Shishu Hiwatari [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 12:35 am ]
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Cobalt wrote:
i disagree. it's better than nothing, isn't it? i'm not the most religious guy either, but i do think that Orthodox would be the way to go. we're all at our different levels, you know? if you believe that something is True, whether you adhere to it as strictly as you could, i think, is less important than knowing what you *should* be aspiring to.

Yeah, but being Othadox and only going to the high holidays is truly hypocritical.

The point of being Orthadox is to be dedicated to your religon, in this case, Juddism, and if you're just doing the maximum most reform Jews do, it really doesn't make sense to belong to an Orthadox synagauge. It just gives a sense that you don't actually care, and are simply pretending to.

If you and your family are only going to go on the high holidays, then you should at least go to a reform temple. Besides, personally, I'd think it'd be much more comfortable.
Author:  Cobalt [ Thu Sep 22, 2005 1:55 am ]
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Shishu Hiwatari wrote:
Yeah, but being Othadox and only going to the high holidays is truly hypocritical.


it isn't being hypocritical, it's just being as observant as you're willing to be at the moment.

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The point of being Orthadox is to be dedicated to your religon, in this case, Juddism, and if you're just doing the maximum most reform Jews do, it really doesn't make sense to belong to an Orthadox synagauge. It just gives a sense that you don't actually care, and are simply pretending to.


i don't see the relevence of what sense it gives. if you believe that Orthodox Judaism is the way to go, whether you personally observe as much as you should, then you belong in an Orthodox synagogue. if you don't think that it's ok that you're not observing as much as you should, then that's where you belong. if you think that level of observance doesn't really matter and you're free to pick and choose what you want to observe and what you don't, then you should be at a Reform place.

the fundamental difference, as i see it, is whether you realize that you're doing something wrong or not.

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If you and your family are only going to go on the high holidays, then you should at least go to a reform temple. Besides, personally, I'd think it'd be much more comfortable.


i don't go to synagogue as often as i should, but when i do it's to an Orthodox one. i would not feel comfortable in a Reform temple. i've been to some; they're basically the same as churches, just minus the Jesus factor. that's not what i consider an appropriate venue for worship. attending an Orthodox synagogue doesn't require that you observe everything and observe it perfectly, just that you recognize the validity of all the commandments and that, at least in theory, you see the value in attempting to become better.
Author:  Sterence [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:04 am ]
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May I ask why you wanted to know this?

I'm Jewish too, although my loyalty to it varies a lot, as people who know me would know.

I was brought up semi-orthodox... but we practiced less and less as i got older so now id probably call myself semi-practicing? liberal maybe?

my batmitzvah was no big deal. i did it with a friend of mine at a normal friday night service
Author:  Beyond the Grave [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:23 pm ]
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*reaches up, feels head*

Nope, no yamika on my head, so I guess I am not Jewish.
Author:  DESTROY US ALL! [ Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:49 pm ]
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I my grandmother is Jewish. But i don't consider it a nationality, belguin is a nationality now Jewish. Twas the 'orrible people who turned a religion into a nationality.

But i do enjoy those little cookeis that are black and white.
Author:  Shippinator Mandy [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 1:05 am ]
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Nope, not Jewish--I don't even have any Jewish ancestry, at least not as far as I know. However, many of my best friends are.
Author:  Shishu Hiwatari [ Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:51 am ]
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Cobalt wrote:
Shishu Hiwatari wrote:
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If you and your family are only going to go on the high holidays, then you should at least go to a reform temple. Besides, personally, I'd think it'd be much more comfortable.


i don't go to synagogue as often as i should, but when i do it's to an Orthodox one. i would not feel comfortable in a Reform temple. i've been to some; they're basically the same as churches, just minus the Jesus factor. that's not what i consider an appropriate venue for worship. attending an Orthodox synagogue doesn't require that you observe everything and observe it perfectly, just that you recognize the validity of all the commandments and that, at least in theory, you see the value in attempting to become better.

*shrug* As far as I see it, you're just mumbling things you don't even know what they are in an Orthadox Temple, seeing as you don't go that often.

Not all reform temples are so extremely lax, like mine, but it's all a matter of opinion, as my dad will consistently point out when I complain about a b'nei mitzvah service being at a church or the fact that a temple only has services on a bar mitzvah, bat mitzvah, and most likely the high holidays. A lot of rabbis and Orthadox Jews will degrade reform Juddism, but I like it for its understanding community and interpertations of the Torah; something that would seem almost taboo in Orthadox Juddism.

But whatever.
Author:  Cobalt [ Sun Sep 25, 2005 12:44 am ]
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Shishu Hiwatari wrote:
*shrug* As far as I see it, you're just mumbling things you don't even know what they are in an Orthadox Temple, seeing as you don't go that often.


well, besides the fact that there's no such thing as an Orthodox "temple," it's not true that you're just mumbling things that you don't understand if you don't go every day. they do have prayer books in English as well as Hebrew, you know.

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Not all reform temples are so extremely lax, like mine, but it's all a matter of opinion, as my dad will consistently point out when I complain about a b'nei mitzvah service being at a church or the fact that a temple only has services on a bar mitzvah, bat mitzvah, and most likely the high holidays. A lot of rabbis and Orthadox Jews will degrade reform Juddism, but I like it for its understanding community and interpertations of the Torah; something that would seem almost taboo in Orthadox Juddism.


that's exactly it, though: it isn't just a matter of opinion. the reason to go to an Orthodox synagogue even if you don't go that often is because you think that the Orthodox interpretation is CORRECT and that the Reform interpretation of, basically, anything goes, do whatever you feel like, is not correct. there certainly is room for interpretation, but not *that much*

also, if you want people to start taking your opinions into consideration, you might want to start with learning how to spell "Judaism" correctly. it's really distracting me.
Author:  Shishu Hiwatari [ Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:30 am ]
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Bleh whatever. I could have sworn I was spelling it right -_-

I don't want to get in a topic like this. I hate debating about this stuff, it just gets me agitated --;;
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