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But IJ said the same about me - that we agree on most things but my methods disgust him.

So either way, there's a break, and it could be on either side. Just because I'm "acting up" doesn't mean I'm the only one who can possibly be out of line.

And do I really look like the kind of person who accepts "I CAN BAN YOU, I HAVE POW0R" as a fair and intelligent comeback in an argument?


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But IJ said the same about me - that we agree on most things but my methods disgust him.

So either way, there's a break, and it could be on either side. Just because I'm "acting up" doesn't mean I'm the only one who can possibly be out of line.

And do I really look like the kind of person who accepts "I CAN BAN YOU, I HAVE POW0R" as a fair and intelligent comeback in an argument?


It seems, Rosalie, that if you really cared about sharing your viewpoints with others and wanted to persuade them why your views are better founded than theirs, that you would care quite a bit about your delivery. As it stands it seems that you are only interested in yelling louder than everyone else.

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Trev.... you obviously thought something as hyped as FSMism wouldn't attract the less intelligent? 80% of what you're reading there consists of kids that just hit puberty and can't put forth a good argument.

Some of them ARE very well-informed, and those are the ones you should debate with.

Hay I'm 13 and I am great at debating


Word to the wise: if you want to be liked, "I'm great at debating" isn't really the sort of thing you should say.

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well I am, it's a fact. But on a lighter note I hate the new ruleing. I'm thinking of moving out of Kansas now, so when I graduate High school in 5 years I can get into a good colledge.

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Rosalie wrote:
And do I really look like the kind of person who accepts "I CAN BAN YOU, I HAVE POW0R" as a fair and intelligent comeback in an argument?

Except that IJ wouldn't say that in a Fair and Intelligent argument. He might, however, use it on someone who is not acting fairly or intelligently. Goodness knows he and I have had some sharp disagreements in the past, but he never threatened me with banning. But then again, I never told him he needed to shut his mouth. Telling someone to shut up because you disagree with them is neither fair nor intelligent.

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DarkSideOfTheSchwartz wrote:
well I am, it's a fact.


Well, for one thing, it's not a fact, it's your opinion. And labelling opinions as facts isn't the sort of thing done by one who is great at debating. Gotcha. ;)

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And do I really look like the kind of person who accepts "I CAN BAN YOU, I HAVE POW0R" as a fair and intelligent comeback in an argument?


Wow. Is this how all the relgion threads go? I'm not really on the forum that much, but from what I've seen of other posts, this thread looks like its on the spamway express to locksville. And besides, IJ didn't say anything about banning.

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Rosalie wrote:
And do I really look like the kind of person who accepts "I CAN BAN YOU, I HAVE POW0R" as a fair and intelligent comeback in an argument?

Except that IJ wouldn't say that in a Fair and Intelligent argument. He might, however, use it on someone who is not acting fairly or intelligently. Goodness knows he and I have had some sharp disagreements in the past, but he never threatened me with banning. But then again, I never told him he needed to shut his mouth. Telling someone to shut up because you disagree with them is neither fair nor intelligent.


That wonderful selective internet connection of yours doing it's magic again, eh?

Of course, what I said was COMPLETELY unprovoked, and wasn't preceeded by something incredibly demeaning and patronising, say comments like this:

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The post was off-topic, I'll admit, and has less to do with the post I replied to than the many, many posts you've made that have an arrogant, self-righteous tone that puts some of our worst trolls to shame. You clearly have a complete lack of respect for any person, be they Christian, atheist, agnostic, pagan, or otherwise, whose opinions differ from yours even in the slightest. You are the very sort of person you spend so much time complaining about. I believed it was necessary to make you aware of that, though I doubt it will do much to improve your outlook or disposition.


I don't take kindly to being called arrogant, self righteous, and putting some of the worst trolls for shame, have no respect for anyone, a hypocrite, and that it's neccessary that i take this view as fact.

I hardly see how telling someone to shut up even compares to that kind of disrespect.


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But, you see, everything IJ said to you was true, Rosalie. The fact that you are in denial about it doesn't change that. Just look over some of your old posts, the way you speak to people who've been nothing but polite to you.

You just have to learn to be a little more civil and polite. Maybe then people will respect you and be more willing to listen to what you have to say.

Look, I've said this before and I'll say it again. I'm on your side. I just do not think you are voicing your opinions in a way that anyone else can respect. If you want respect, if you want people to stop treating you like a troll, then please start paying those you disagree with the same courtesy.

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JohnTheTinyCowboy wrote:
But, you see, everything IJ said to you was true, Rosalie. The fact that you are in denial about it doesn't change that. Just look over some of your old posts, the way you speak to people who've been nothing but polite to you.

You just have to learn to be a little more civil and polite. Maybe then people will respect you and be more willing to listen to what you have to say.

Look, I've said this before and I'll say it again. I'm on your side. I just do not think you are voicing your opinions in a way that anyone else can respect. If you want respect, if you want people to stop treating you like a troll, then please start paying those you disagree with the same courtesy.


In my recent posts I have been more civil and polite, and I certainly disagree with IJ on that. However, telling someone what a horrible person they are will only make them feel like they're a horrible person, or feel like the person saying it is a horrible person, and won't achieve anything.

I need to learn manners, but IJ needs to learn more diplomacy(perhaps even moreso than me).


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Rosalie wrote:
In my recent posts I have been more civil and polite


Good for you. Please keep it up.

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