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 Post subject: Hollywood DC - Celebrity Politics
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:02 pm 
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it seems that everyday movie and music stars seem to think that their opinion is as valuble as any UN representatives. Some do have valid points. But most people just seem to be crazy. Such as the recent Kanye West statement "George Bush Hates Black People" I'm no Bush-supporter by any strech of the word, but that was outright ignorant. So do you think its best opinions be kept to movie scripts and songs? Or should we have all our states like California?

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 Post subject: Re: Hollywood DC - Celebrity Politics
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Such as the recent Kanye West statement "George Bush Hates Black People" I'm no Bush-supporter by any strech of the word, but that was outright ignorant.
Don't you mean "George Bush doesn't care about black people"? I have to agree with him.

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 Post subject: Re: Hollywood DC - Celebrity Politics
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:26 pm 
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destroy_us_all wrote:
it seems that everyday movie and music stars seem to think that their opinion is as valuble as any UN representatives. Some do have valid points. But most people just seem to be crazy. Such as the recent Kanye West statement "George Bush Hates Black People" I'm no Bush-supporter by any strech of the word, but that was outright ignorant. So do you think its best opinions be kept to movie scripts and songs? Or should we have all our states like California?

I've always admired celebs that keep politics and entertainment seperate. Even celebs I agree with politically annoy me when they start waxing political like so many people in my old College's newspaper. Unless they have something intelligent to discuss (like the way Ben Affleck was involved in the Democratic National Convention) they probably should be wary of making political statements, lest they isolate themselves from half their potential audience (and come off looking like a moron). The same goes for fans who like and/or dislike artists based on their political views. You run the risk of isolating yourself from about half of the work you may like.

With VERY LITTLE exception, I don't decide whether I like a certain musician/group or actor/actress based on their political views. I'm not one of those people who didn't go see Monster in Law because of "Hanoi Jane".. I didn't go see it because I thought it would suck. I'm not one of those people that wanted to lynch the Dixie Chicks (until they apologized.. I disagreed with their views, but they had a right to say what they said, and shouldn't apologize for stating how they feel). On the same token, I didn't go see Toby Keith during his "Shockin Y'all, Courtesy of the Red White and Blue" tour (even if I agreed with him)..

I wouldn't judge a political candidate on their ability to play a guitar solo, why would I judge a musician on their political views?

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 Post subject: Re: Hollywood DC - Celebrity Politics
PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:31 pm 
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destroy_us_all wrote:
Such as the recent Kanye West statement "George Bush Hates Black People" I'm no Bush-supporter by any strech of the word, but that was outright ignorant.
Don't you mean "George Bush doesn't care about black people"? I have to agree with him.


Sorry for my mistake. But come on, it was more FEMA than Bush's involvment, if he would of said "Michael brown doesn't care about black people" then I would of agreed.

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 Post subject: Re: Hollywood DC - Celebrity Politics
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destroy_us_all wrote:
Such as the recent Kanye West statement "George Bush Hates Black People" I'm no Bush-supporter by any strech of the word, but that was outright ignorant.
Don't you mean "George Bush doesn't care about black people"? I have to agree with him.


Sorry for my mistake. But come on, it was more FEMA than Bush's involvment, if he would of said "Michael brown doesn't care about black people" then I would of agreed.

Until Hurricane Katrina, I didn't realize that the only people in New Orleans, much less the entire gulf coast, were black.. West's Statement was just really stupid.. Of course, he DID have PROOF. Everyone knows that W blew up all the levees in black neighborhoods. LOL

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Yeah, maybe West's statement was stupid, maybe it was just born out of frustration.

Black cultural critics like Adrienne Rich argue the same thing, that America has a blind spot towards its black population. If outright prejudice isn't hampering their social progress, they say, then this blind spot is.

Newsday put it this way the other day:

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When rapper Kanye West said "George Bush doesn't care about black people" during a disaster-relief telethon, he spoke for scores of black people. They don't view Bush as a flat-out racist; they just feel the president, like many whites, simply doesn't see black America.


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 Post subject: Re: Hollywood DC - Celebrity Politics
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destroy_us_all wrote:
Don't you mean "George Bush doesn't care about black people"? I have to agree with him.


Sorry for my mistake. But come on, it was more FEMA than Bush's involvment, if he would of said "Michael brown doesn't care about black people" then I would of agreed.[/quote]

You really this the White House is without blame, here? Nobody forced Bush to stock FEMA with cronies he knew to be completely unqualified.

Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that George Bush doesn't care about federal disaster relief, which is most needed by the poor, the majority of whom are minorities.

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What I thought was very very stupid of Bush was to fight this statement by sending Condi Rice out there. The message this sent to me was: "I DO care about black people, but only if they're rich!".

Georgie is SO good at public relations -_-


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