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God told him to do it?
Read it for yourself. This is most rediculous load I've heard in a long time. Not the need for a Palestinian state, mind you; it's the fact that I so easily believe ol' Shrub would say something like that.

Oh wait, God's calling...
Man, I can't believe I have to invade North Korea now.

What's so unbelievable about that? Bush has said on several occasions that he talks to God.

Personally, I wouldn't put anything past him anymore.

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And that's just something to be accepted!?

There are three possible explanations:

1. It's a hoax.
2. Bush is insane.
3. Both.

I'm leaning toward #3.

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There's also option four, which would state that Bush is saying crap like this in order to please his core constituency, the wacko nutjob right wing Pat Robertson-style Christians, and doesn't really believe it himself.

I almost hope this isn't the case, because that would make Bush a lot smarter than we give him credit for. On the other hand, I hope it is true, because I don't want a lunatic with his finger on the nuclear trigger.

"Honest! God told me to nuke Ottawa!"

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Ooookay! I just lost what little respect I had left for him after the Iraq fiasco.

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I'll go for #2. I wouldn't put this past him.

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"They've taken Mr Rimmer! Sir, they've taken Mr Rimmer!"
"Quick, let's get outta here before they bring him back!"

Seriously, I think he's finally realised all the bad things he's done and doesn't want to take the blame for it.
"It wasn't my fault! God made me do it!"

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Guten tag, Johann, du riechst ganz richtig. Danke schon, Heidi. Und du auch. - A Bit of Fry and Laurie

You folks should really take a listen to Bright Eyes' "When the President Talks to God." That's an iTunes Music Store link, but it's a completely free download.



Oh, um, there are some strong lyrics, so maybe not for the little ones.

Oh, and here's a video of him performing the song on the David Letterman show (with lyrics censored). One of the most amazing things I've ever seen on a network TV show.

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I dunno, but I think it's possible that this article has overblown what Bush actually said, if I know anything about how the media sell their stories.

I definately wouldn't put it past Bush. Bush seems to like using God to justify his actions.

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And I certainly hope he doesn't expect me to believe his quixotic invasion of Iraq was divinely inspired. If so, then the next time I punch someone in the nose, I'm going to claim divine inspiration, too.

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Maybe one of the Admins should do it the next time they ban somebody.

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You missed the point. You can't claim divine inspiration for doing something SENSIBLE!

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Ok so the next time Dormar decides to wear a dress.

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Ohhhhhh no no no no. No, it's not fair.

That had better just be a hoax. It's one thing to say you "talk to God," because prayer is a form of doing that in a sense. But saying that God told you to invade Iraq and create a Palestinean state ... No. No no no no.

Just what we need! As if Pat Robertson calling for assassinations didn't further damage the image of Christians ... It's only going to make people feel justified when they do things like this.

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Why is everyone taking this so badly? Personally, I believe you CAN talk to God and God could nad might tell you to do such things - there are several examples of him telling someone to go to war/kill someone in the Bible. I thought at least DIDYMUS would recognise that. Personally, all of these slashes against George W. make me mad. He's not the best president we've ever had, no, but that decision I haven't made based on his religious claims or him declaring war on Iraq. Quit being big babies and accept that we're helping Iraq and other nations in the long run by doing the things we're doing now.

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Pfft. I'm a skeptic as far as whom God chooses to speak to or influence. I certainly don't think He spoke to Bush on these matters.

Recall the American Civil War, for example. Both sides claimed God was on their side. It's easy to claim you are an instrument of God (Abraham Lincoln did, Robert E. Lee did, etc. ), or that God speaks back to you.

At any rate ...



Given that one of my first topics on these forums was my advocation of the invasion of Iraq, I find your calling me a 'big baby' over this extremely hilarious.

Somewhere along the line you combined getting worked up over Bush claiming God speaks to him with opposing the Iraqi invasion.

Here's your sign.

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Say what? A year or two or five years from now or whenever we're out of Iraq we can start talking about who benefited from this war, but at this point nobody has benefited. Thousands of American soldiers have died, thousands more have been permanently disabled, tens of thousands of Iraqis, most of them civilians, have died, and Osama Bin Laden is still at large. You can't say we're helping anybody in the long run because, so far, there's no evidence pointing to that. Maybe 25 years form now we'll look back and say, "Wow, I guess all that sacrifice really was worth it" (I'm not holding my breath, personally) but it's about a decade to early to start claiming that any tangible good has come from this illegal war.

Anyway.. toast paint.

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I recognize that we invaded Iraq based on false accusations made by our president, and then conveniently swept under the carpet when the truth about them came out. I recognize that we bombed Iraq back to the stone age for no other reason than that Bush wanted to get rid of their leader. I recognize that we very well could have accomplished our goals--preventing Iraq from developing or deploying those alleged WMD's--using much less force than we did, and sparing all those lives lost in the invasion and its aftermath. I recognize that a moral nation like the United States cannot go around making false accusations and invading nations just because we disagree with them without severely compromising our own moral integrity.

So do I believe that God told President Bush to invade Iraq? Not after all the lies, deceptions, and spin-doctoring that went on to justify it, and after the total fiaso that has been made of it.

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God would not tell anyone to go to war. He would not give perimission for someone to kill his children. It's not in him to do so. God loves us, and I am sure it hurts him everytime there is a war.

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Thou shalt not kill.

It's pretty much set in stone.

Not entirely true. If you take those passages in Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua, and Judges seriously, then he did in fact tell the Israelites to wage war against the people of Canaan.

But in the case of St. George of the Shrubbery, I'm extremely skeptical. I do not believe that the God of Truth would tell him to concoct all sorts of lies, deceptions, and spin-doctorings like that.

The commandment about killing has to do with civil law. It is a prohibition against murder, not self-defense or fighting in warfare. There is such a thing as a just war. For example, the First Gulf War (GWI?). Iraq invaded one of our allies. We had a moral obligation to defend them. So we did the right thing.

But in this one? ALLEGED WMD'S? Without any substantial proof? Come on! And then when it turned out that the WMD's were a lie, they spun it as "a war of liberation." Liberation: yeah right! We bombed their freaking country into the stone age, then invited every terrorist organization in existence to set up recruiting and training grounds there. There is no justification for the current war in Iraq, except that we now have a moral obligation to fix the damage we unjustly inflicted upon their country.

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1. Do you remember why Iraq invaded Kuwait? Kuwaiti oil drillers were supposedly tapping in on Iraq's supply. Kuwait wasn't one of our allies. Saudi Arabia was. Saudi Arabia was afraid of the Iraqi military prowess and appealed to Uncle Sam for help. Enter Operation Desert Shield.
2. Why aren't there any explicit exceptions to the rule then?

Actually, most translations I've seen say "Thou shalt not murder." I'm not sure what it said or meant in the original Hebrew, and I'm sure Didymus can tell you, but murdering usually means killing someone out of hatred.

War is an exception. If the war you are fighting is for a good and holy cause, God approves of it. In fact, sometimes he's the one who tells you to go into war, as you have seen mutiple times in the Bible. I am not saying its okay to go into ar over whether Cocoa Puffs or Trix are better. I'm saying if people are opposing God's people, God doesn't want them standing in the way. Severe manslaughter is not heavily suggested, but condoned when the time is at hand.

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Where does it clearly say that some killing is okay?

It doesn't. But it does say war is condoned if it is for a good and holy causes. Which means, thou shalt not murder, but thou CAN kill during a war for a justified cause.

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You're not quoting scripture.

Okay, well, I'm not exactly the best at citing passages, but there is a section, and I know Didymus will find it for me as soon as he comes here.

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