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interesting theory, but it completely goes against what the Bible says, don't it?

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In that area, during that time, I doubt they would have alot of trade or contact with other lands(Prehaps non at all), All the land he would have known about was his own, and maybe a few towns close by.
So to him, the entire world was flooded.
Plus, I don't particularly believe everything in the Bible/Torah is true.

Yeah, you can't count on the fossile record to be that complete, especially in soft-bodied birds. Fossiles are very rare everywhere, and they're usually of hard-shelled creatures and fish and stuff.

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yeah, tens of thousands of years ago, but these fossils would be fairly recent, and according to what you are all saying, there would be 800-1700 years worth.

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800 - 1700 years' worth isn't a whole lot if you think of the millions (lol, billionz) of years the earth has had - we certainly don't have fossiles of every animal from every millenium since the beginning of time (especially birds).

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yes but it was such a brief time ago that there should be a neat little trail leading down to polynesia.

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I'm a little confused on your timeline. Where are you getting 800-1700 years? The Flood was several thousand years ago. According to wikipedia, radiocarbon dating of relics places humans in Australia about at 20,000 BC. 800-1700 years seems a bit short.

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I would have to agree with Alberto: I believe that the story of Noah's Ark, if there is an actual event it was based on, is more of a parable than a documentation of history to be taken literally. Beyond the infamous Kiwi argument, there is a whole host of issues surrounding the idea of how one man from one area of the earth could have built a single shipped, manned by a crew of only 8 people, that travelled the globe at least twice to obtain every last species of creature on the planet, with the room and means to care for them all and prevent the carnivorous ones from eating the other creatures. In fact, to quote the Wiki page:



So the best conclusion is to not take this part of the Bible literally, but rather figuratively. I wouldn't think that the author would be so concerned about whether the story was feasibly possible so much as the lesson the reader was supposed to gain from it ("Trust in God" or some such thing).

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Australia? I'm talking about New Zealand, which was populated in between 800-1300 AD.

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Ok, second question:

When is Jesus coming back? After he died, Christians expected him back within their lifetime yet 2,000 later we're still waiting. Is he stuck in traffic?

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if you could choose your ancestors, and grow just like a weed
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Australia and New Zealand are close enough together that, it's not unbelievable that people from Australia could make their way there, granted, it wasn't settled permanently until something like 1400 AD or so. (well, ok, so wikipedia says 13th-15th century AD).

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Fossile, you didn't need to double post. You could have just edited your post. Please remember that.

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Nobody knows when Jesus is coming back.
His Dad created the entire universe, He can come back whenever He wants.

The Christians living when He died DID expect Him to come back during their lifetime, but He never told them when He was coming back, just that He would be back. In John 14:3 He said He was going to Heaven to prepare a place for the believers and that He would be back.

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Popping into the Kiwibird discussion real quick: I would like to offer another possible solution to the quandry.

Okay, here we go, just hear me out before you say anything: in the days before the flood, there was Pangea. The world was a bit different in those days anyway, as there was a rather thick canopy of sorts of water vapor that surrounded the world, causing a global climate that was roughly tropical or sub-tropical worldwide, which in summary was warmer, more humid, and relatively constant throughout. Many species were a bit (or a lot) different, as lifespans were longer, animals grew to larger sizes, and there was little to none UV radiation (water vapor in large amounts is a good UV shield).

Anyway, the flood happens, covers the world, and begins to set in motion a more dynamic Earth. With the canopy gone (it contributed to the flood), the climate was not stable and became more diverse. After the water drained sufficently and people and animals spead themselves out, then the continents began or continue (as it probably started with the flood: waters from the Earth, and such) to move and separate. Different species by that point were in different portions of the world as the splits occured, and thus became more and more isolated as lakes and rivers turned into channels and oceans. Now, exactly why as to certain varieties being specifically located in one place or another is beyond me, but it is probably due to the sudden changes (or degeneration) of the various habitats that individual species lived in that could have led to something comparable to the kiwi living in only one place on earth.

Alright, that's my belief, as well as my studied opinion.

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That's not quite correct... Water vapor IS quite absorptive in the "far UV" and "mid UV" ranges, but at around 3 microns (the "near UV" spectrum) water vapor is as transparent to UV as it is to green light. The near UV (called UVA in most medical literature) is the most dangerous to life (according to About.com, for what that's worth). UVB (mid UV) is not as big a threat (according to the same about.com). It's mostly absorbed, anyway..

Still, an increase in water vapor does translate into an decrease of UV. It's not highly absorptive, though, otherwise, you could not get a sunburn on a cloudy day.

Your theory does make sense, though.

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In the New Testament, it is mentioned that there was a disciple "whom Jesus loved." In what context, exactly, did Jesus love this disciple? Did He love this man the closest out of all of his disciples, as in philia, or was it more agape than philia? Couldn't have been eros, could it?

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I don't get this particular verse:

Luke 14:26: If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

So does that mean we should hate all relatives and hate ourselves?

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Who says the disciple was a man? Remember there were only 12 Apostles, but he had several thousand disciples, many of whom were women.

No, it means anyone who hates their own family cannot be a disciple.

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Hate, in this context, means something similar to "to love less than me". The New Living Translation makes this more clear:

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Gravy:

This was at the Last Supper.

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You should have specified that to begin with.

As for the text, John and Thomas were sitting next to Jesus at the Last Supper. In DaVinci's painting, John is seen reclining at the Last Supper.

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Here's what I have in the Bible I've got lying around--



I've never really come across this before. At first I thought that it just was saying that Jesus loved all his disciples, but it really seems like this was a disciple that he favored. It wouldn't be unusual for them to be reclining, as it was Passover, and you recline at Passover, but lying on each other?

It's pretty interesting.

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-Kate

Some people have taken that verse to mean that Jesus was gay. I doubt that.

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John referred to himself as "the disciple Jesus loved" instead of his name a a lot. In fact, if I remember correctly, the entire Gospel of John.

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Hmmm, sounds like he had a bit of an ego problem.

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-Kate

I actually heard it explained that it was a way to deflect attention from himself and focus more on Jesus.

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Not only that, but I think John was also making a statement about what a disciple is: someone whom Jesus loves. In other words, discipleship is first and foremost being loved by Jesus, being a recipient of his mercy and grace. Then and only then can a disciple truly follow.

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If we're all God's children, then what makes Jesus so special?

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I think that pretty much sums it up.

Oh, and notice the emphasis on "only-begotten". Jesus' relationship to the Father is of a much more profound and divine nature than ours. In fact, our relationship with the Father is only on account of Jesus anyway. Through him, we are adopted as children, whereas Jesus is the only-begotten Son.

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1. I think god rested on the seventh day or so, but why would a god need to rest?

2. There are hundereds of religions out there, how are you supposed to know which religion is the true one, or if the true religion even exists?

3. If god loves everybody and wants everybody to go to heaven and be happy, why aren't you simply born in heaven? And if it's because you are allowed to choose/be trialed, why can't god just calculate the outcome and be done with it?