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 Post subject: What does Jack think he's doing?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:20 pm 
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http://gc.advancedmn.com/article.php?artid=5883

For those too lazy to wait for the page to load (it takes a while), heres basically whats going on. The most outspoken attention hogging turd in the world has asked for a game company to make a game, a violent one. Now if you know Jack you'll know that that's exactly what he's trying to STOP. If he werent already a hypocrite, he wants it to be a gory thing, killing game makers and players, until finally you grab tickets to E3 and...well...kill everyone. Worst idea ever? You bet. And he's offering 10,000 dollars to charity in exchange. But one teensy problem, with the millions used to design, develop and market the game, there could have been a MUCH more significant donation. We're talking at least 30 fold.

Conclusion: Jack's senile. Discuss.

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OK (No pun intended), Jack's a moron. He has to be the stupiest person alive now. No video game maker should even consider making it, just to stick it to him.

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Jack is an absolute moron.


He fights violence, with his little partner Hillary. He goes out and says things like this:

"PONG IS VIOLENT!!!!!!LOL OMG ONEELEVEN!!"

Then all the "soccor moms, as I call them"

"I agree."


And now what? He's hiring for a violent game? Why dontr they donate the money instead waste it on something to please one of the worlds most stupidest people?

Conclusion: Jack is a moron.


PS. Sorry If I sounded a little mean up there. I'm just ticked about this.

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Hmm...it seems fake to me--almost like an article from The Onion (though it's not on The Onion's website, so I doubt it's from The Onion).

Anyway, even if it IS fake, this guy definitely seems like an annoying, hypocritical jerkwad, for lack of a better term.

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Wow, this is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen.

Just wow. He's ruined whatever his carreer is. (Something along the lines of "Hypacritical Protester of things that need not be protested")

Though now that I see Mandy's post, I agree that it could easily be fake.


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Wow, this is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen.

Just wow. He's ruined whatever his carreer is. (Something along the lines of "Hypacritical Protester of things that need not be protested")

Though now that I see Mandy's post, I agree that it could easily be fake.
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Hmm, Ctrl Del Alt or whatever it is made a comic out of it. Seems real.

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The worst part is, when no one makes the game, he's going to think it's because they're too afraid of someone enacting it in real life. Instead of, like, logical reasons, like you can't just take any loser's suggestion and make it a game just like that.

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This says it all (warning: foul language)

Jack Thompson is a greedy ATL with nothing better to do. The suits running the country eat his ideas up because it's "different from their day", video games don't hurt people. In fact I've found by playing violent games I'm less likely to commit a horribly violent crime because it gives me an outlet.

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Roffle.

Okay, the point Jack is trying to make, here, is that the game industry would never make a game where the main character hunts down and kills video game execs en masse because they'd be too afraid it would cause people to hunt and kill video game execs en masse.

I at least give him credit for the title. "A Modest Video Game Proposal" alludes Jonathan Swift's infamous "A Modest Proposal" in which he satirically proposes that the children of the poor should be eaten to the benefit of everyone. (That's a fairly daft synopsis; follow the link if you want to know more.)

However, that's about all I give him credit for. The Ctrl-Alt-Del article is pretty astute on this point. He should be sent to the corner with our other favorite Jacks, Chick and Valenti.

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Dang. IJ beat me to the Jonathan Swift ref.

*storms off irritably*

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Dang. IJ beat me to the Jonathan Swift ref.

*storms off irritably*


I learned it from you, Did. I learned it from watching you! :((

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The worst part is, when no one makes the game, he's going to think it's because they're too afraid of someone enacting it in real life. Instead of, like, logical reasons, like you can't just take any loser's suggestion and make it a game just like that.


Especially if it's a game that nobody with two brain cells to rub together will support, let alone actually PLAY.

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well, this might be too late to say, but i think we were talking about the stuff jack thompson does Here and possibly in the Bully thread.

but eitherway, i think something bad happend to jack when he was a kid. i dont support him, but you gotta look at the views his way before you make theese accusations. Jack Thompson wants kids to be safe, so there wont be any violence when we start running the country. he thinks that violent video games cause this. he belives this probably because of what he thinks pushed the guys who were responsible for Columbine, was violent video games, I.E. Doom. he only thinks this because the first kid responsible for this was an Avid doom player, owned a website with his blog, and several Homebrewed doom Levels, so he links them both together. jack tried to prove that some of the levels he made were based on Columbine High School. we proved him wrong. i guess im straying from looking at his side now, so lets not murder him, and just e-mail him with the facts.
yeah, e-mail him and not cuss him out and send him trojans. what ever happend to trojans??

EDIT: Holy Crap......... i just read his proposal and i say...............
Change the title, and that the guy is Killing people who make videogames, and make it to where your killing people like jack thompson.... no wait... no....... aww forget the idea, thats a game i wouldnt even touch, but you know what? im gonna. i gotta get my friends at ITT Tech Texas Campus to help me out with it, we market it, and make money, but one thing changes..... Insted of it Being OK, its JT, figure out the name.

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But he doesn't listen to reason, as he proved here.

Look. The guy is just looking for attention. He's trying to stay relevant. He's realized, far too late, that people considered his claims, rejected them, and moved on, but he doesn't want to accept it.

I compare him to Madonna. Nobody cares anymore, frankly, so let's not give him any more undue attention. Eventually, when no one makes the game, he'll fade away again. Until then, we can ridicule him--but not too much.

We don't want people to get the impression he's getting to us. ;)

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we gotta reform that Orginazation we were working on in the Hot Coffee thread.

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ok, first of all, Jack is indeed a loser, but your letting yourself get in a fit over it, which is exactly what he wants. He's trying to gain publicity then use it to fuel anything else he wants.

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ok, first of all, Jack is indeed a loser, but your letting yourself get in a fit over it, which is exactly what he wants. He's trying to gain publicity then use it to fuel anything else he wants.


Exactly. Give him fuel, give him fire, give him that which he desires! then cut to the song fuel.

i have been trying to email him, but i havent been abel to find his Active email address. can anyone give me some help on this? just so you know, im not emailing him any threats, or trying to put him down, i wanna get on his good side to show him that not all gamers are just kids who want to get the fuel wich they desire.

EDIT: Chatterbox did a interview with Jack thompson, here it is: Here

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Yes, for the love of Pete, don't feed the Jack Thompson.

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That....is...bizarre..... Unless we're all missing something vital in Thompson's logic, that simply has to be the most rediculous idea ever.

There are only two possible causes for teen violence - bad parenting and/or bad surroundings. There is always some trigger from early childhood experiences that leads to you killing someone. That trigger could be overt abuse, or it could be something subtle, like emotional neglect.

Not videogame-induced "dreamlike states". That, my dear Jack, is making excuses.


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There are only two possible causes for teen violence - bad parenting and/or bad surroundings.


Jack would agree, and claim that violent video games contribute to those bad surroundings.

/Devil's advocate

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The only references I can find to this anywhere are on gamer sites and blogs. I (by which I mean Google News) can't find it in any reputable news source anywhere.

This leads me to believe that someone posted it on a gamer site as a (poor attempt at a) joke, and then the other sites copied it from there, either thinking it was funny or thinking it was real - probably some of both (Ah, blogging - it's like journalism, without all the hassles of checking your facts).

As much as I dislike Jack Thompson, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one - not least of all because it's so out of character...

As for the whole violent video games dealie, as I've said before:
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I just had a strange idea. What if this is all part of his plan to get rid of video games forever? He thinks that people act out what they see in video games, right? Maybe he wants people to make this game because he thinks that kids will take their baseball bats and kill the makers of video games. Then video games will be gone forever.


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woah woah everyone, if were gonna approach this matter seriously, and actually get them to listen to us, we gotta stop acting like a bunch of 13 year old brats saying "WERE GONNA KILL JACK THOMPSON! GO ***K YOURSELF JACK THOMPSON", and actually start looking at this logically and politically. we must be polite, Educated, and in no way start acting like we once were.

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Maybe something did happen to him when he was young, Choclardo. Maybe he was mugged of his precious Science Boy Issue. :p


Points to whoever recognizes that refrence.

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Maybe something did happen to him when he was young, Choclardo. Maybe he was mugged of his precious Science Boy Issue. :p


Points to whoever recognizes that refrence.


Heh heh, noice one. How many points do I get?

Anyways, I agree, it is possible that something happened to him when he was younger, it'd make sense.


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yeah, his oddesy exploded.

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There are only two possible causes for teen violence - bad parenting and/or bad surroundings. There is always some trigger from early childhood experiences that leads to you killing someone.


Ah, but what about mental illness? I know this isn't an example of teen violence, but remember Andrea Yates? From what I remember, she killed her children due to severe postpartum depression--anyway, I don't believe it had anything to do with her childhood. I'd think the same would be true for teens. Granted, kids who are abused sometimes DO wind up killing people (Mary Bell, for example), but that's not the only reason.

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I would also like to voice my displeasure with Jack Thompson and his crazy ways. It's very upsetting to see him receive so much attention, and be so politcally affiliated in his doings. I won't be voting for Hilary Clinton because of their affiliation with one another.


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I'm with those in this thread who think the less attention we give this idiot, the better off we'll be. I can understand where those who oppose violent games are coming from, yeah, but this is about the most absurd way of facing the problem I've ever heard on so many levels that it has to be fake, right?? Although nothing I've seen would indicate that it is.

Seriously, within the context of the game, what exactly would make the executives any different from any other random enemy you'd come across? In the eyes of the average mentally disturbed gamer, nothing - they're just one more random victim that the player wouldn't feel any special empathy for. And what company in their right mind would actually put out a game like this? I can't think of any possible benefit for their image besides that small sum to charity, but that particular charity proposal is almost like Dr. Evil threatening to destroy the world in Austin Powers for 1 million dollars, then being laughed at in the process... lol.

To bring up a cliche older than the hills, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. *ducks*


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