What does Jack think he's doing?

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2005 6:43 am

Encountering Gremlins wrote:

I'm with those in this thread who think the less attention we give this idiot, the better off we'll be. I can understand where those who oppose violent games are coming from, yeah, but this is about the most absurd way of facing the problem I've ever heard on so many levels that it has to be fake, right?? Although nothing I've seen would indicate that it is.

Seriously, within the context of the game, what exactly would make the executives any different from any other random enemy you'd come across? In the eyes of the average mentally disturbed gamer, nothing - they're just one more random victim that the player wouldn't feel any special empathy for. And what company in their right mind would actually put out a game like this? I can't think of any possible benefit for their image besides that small sum to charity, but that particular charity proposal is almost like Dr. Evil threatening to destroy the world in Austin Powers for 1 million dollars, then being laughed at in the process... lol.

To bring up a cliche older than the hills, people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. *ducks*

listen.. heres whats i think the problem is: Parents are buying kids theese games, and then somethign bad happens to the kids, like say a murder,(GTA), and then they hire jack thompson because he says he will do it for free if they plea the Videogames mad him do it. the kid will do it just so he doesnt get in trouble, and the point that i am trying to prove is that Parents dont want to blame themselfs with buying the game for their children, and just blame someone else so that they can look good. someone, please reword all i said into understandible language.

Sir Hotbod Handsomeface · **Joined:** Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:17 am **Posts:** 60

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20030811l.gif

I think that about sums it up.

Regardless of the media (internet, movies, video games, music, etc.), parents have primary responsibility to decide what is best for their own children, not the makers of the media themselves. Stop blaming the entertainment, and look at the bigger picture.

Also! Even "pro-family" groups are getting fed up with Jack, apparently.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:16 am

Sir Hotbod Handsomeface wrote:

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2003/20030811l.gif

I think that about sums it up.

Regardless of the media (internet, movies, video games, music, etc.), parents have primary responsibility to decide what is best for their own children, not the makers of the media themselves. Stop blaming the entertainment, and look at the bigger picture.

Also! Even "pro-family" groups are getting fed up with Jack, apparently.

how would you like to be my sentence understander-and-re-worder?

Sir Hotbod Handsomeface · **Joined:** Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:17 am **Posts:** 60

I'm Hired!

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:33 am

okay... im listening to the Jack Thompson interview, and he is all saying to the poor guy "Stop putting words in my mouth, what your saying is wrong, Rocksar makes the rating for theese games, and thats why they gave GTSA an M rating" and now he is not even concerned about the games taht are Sexually based, like Leisure Suite Larry, hes not even doing a thing about them. god, this guy sounds so F`r^tN's`f'd. now hes talking about bully, hes saying that bully is about a kid who kills other kids in school.... WE DONT EVEN KNOW THAT! WE DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT ITS ABOUT! he is baseing his so-called "Facts" about the game on the name. ugh! ill talk later with what happens next.

EDIT: urrgh! he is saying that kids have pre-ordered the game, and taht they can just walk into a toys r us and buy it. thats not true, kids can preorder whatever-the-hell-they-want, but they have to have a parent with them when purchasing it. ugh!

EDIT2: now he is saying that kids can "Practice" there "Scenario" on "The" game "Bully". its sickening me, Listen jack Thompson, Dont judge a book by its cover, or in this case pictures. oi, if we are gonna do something about this, we gota do it 10 times better then keebold and haris, but in a dignified manner, towards Jack Thompson
(if that offended you, im sorry)

EDIT3: tell me something........ are kids people? can kids make descisions on their own? IF YOU POKE US, DO WE NOT BLEED? DO WE NOT LOVE? DO WE NOT FEEL? WE ARE HUMANS, PEOPLE, WE MAY NOT HAVE LIVED ON THIS EARTH FOR A LONG TIME, BUT WE DO KNOW BETTER! everyone, we gotta show that a 13 year old boy should have the constitutional right to walk into any store, and buy a M rated game, and buy anything except what has been made by federal law ilegal to minors! we need to increase our political stature, people, we must start a Crusade Against people like Jack thompson, and show that we do have a right to buy any product sold to Adults, except for certain poisons. tell me this, are gamers american? jack thompson doesnt seem to belive so..... neither does Hilary Clinton, the only way to makesure that anything jack thompson says should happen cant happen is to elliminate hilary clinton in the 2008 elections. ill be back later with more words on this.

EDIT4: now he is saying that take two is giving fuel to people like hilary&Jacko, grrrrr, now hes saying that take two is destroying the esrb rating, and news flash jacko-boy, PARENTS DONT CARE WITH WHAT WE PLAY AS LONG AS WE KEEP QUIET WHEN THERE IN THE BEDROOM OR WATCHING TV! now he is being racist against scottish people, and saying that games like GTA are nothing but racist smut. take two is releasing bully into the market because it has never been done before. oi, i gotta talk to this guy at chatterbox, hes our leader.

EDIT5: now he is blaming capitalism for it all. jesus, man, capitalism is what gives you your fat check, your barbi doll wife, and your solid gold house. you know what i think he is doing? he is baseing his thoughts about what parents will do about the games all on the Cliche of White, middle american Soccer Moms with handsom blond kids who always get A's. hes not even thinking about the other types of families, the families taht make up about 60% of american living, the minority family, the latino family, the families taht only have one parent, the families that are same sex marriges, ugh.. ill be back later with more.

EDIT6: now he is saying he is smarter because he has been on telivision news confrences for a long time. what the hell difference does that make? we gotta stop looking at jack thompson, our target is hilary clinton. now he is saying that because he has been around longer, he knows more. well jacko the wacko, you arent as smart as anyone else. now onto the sims and EA....... blurr in game........ blurr can be removed..... ken and barbi type skins......... blurr can be removed..... blaming modders of puting genitles on the models...... theres few bits of Sexual content in the sims..... EA likes modders because it helps sell the game. Sims is not a copyrighted name, now their coppy right should eb enforced against modders. jacko, jacko, jacko, Videogames were made for moddifying so that more could be sold... some pervs make nude mods, so? cant a man dream? cant a man who never really gets anything use a simulator for it? cant a man who wants to let all his anger out on someone, but doesnt want to hurt anyone of get intouble, use videogames as the best response.... ill be back.

the sims isnt in collaberation with the porn industry, its a bit of a stretch, and the name "Sims" is just an abbreviation of the word Simulator, its not copyrighted.

Sir Hotbod Handsomeface · **Joined:** Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:17 am **Posts:** 60

Angst, much?

Don't sweat it too much. He's losing credibility even with pro-family groups, and can't actually DO much of anything. He's just the crazy hobo on the corner, only with a suit.

Cmarbagoi · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:11 am

Quote:

Video Games (A quick question for the Floridian Lawyer)

Alex Schulman
to jackpeace
More options Oct 13 (2 days ago)
Dear Mr. Thompson,

I'm an avid video gamer. I like video games. I like to escape from reality. I'm also a freshman in high school. When you recently went on your crusade against violent/adult-themed video-games, it made a bit sense. Children shouldn't be allowed to play violent video-games. And that's why there's the ESRB, to stop kids from playing questionable material. Sadly it's not the game company's fault for kids doing stupid things. Take the Grand Theft Auto series for instance. It involves drug schemes, cop-killin', and hookers (but I'm sure you know that already). It's rated M for a reason. But is it truly Rockstar's fault if a 10 year old plays their games? No, the parents should be the ones to blame. Most likely the parents aren't doing there jobs if their 6-year old son starts playing GTA. So why blame Rockstar? You shouldn't. And when it comes to those "Video games kill people" rant you go off on a lot, you don't seem to understand that these games don't control children's minds. That whole "6-cops dead" article, really shouldn't put RockStar to shame. Most likely the kid was already messed up in the head. GTA just "stimulated" him. So could his family. So could ANYTHING he sees on TV. But the question I have for you is, why are you attacking video games more than TV and Movies? They supply just enough negative information. Why games? Is it because you know that you never can beat Desperate Housewives and Sin City in court? So when you and Hilary decided to attack San Andreas, you weren't thinking clearly. The whole "hot coffee" mod was a modification of the game, something you can't access without IMMENSE coding. (Sexual Intercourse is natural by the way. It Shouldn't be something to be frowned upon.) There of tons of other violent/sexual games in the market. Why GTA? Why Rockstar in particular? You've been attacking their other games as well, like Bully. Bully is a game to give gamers and nerds (like me) the feel of what its like to be a Bully. You seem to think that it will encourage more bullying in schools, when you don't address the problem yourself. Being bullied as a child, I know that schools can't do a single thing about it. Why aren't YOU stopping this problem? I mean c'mon, if you're gonna complain about bullying in schools, at least do something about it yourself... And no, VIDEO-GAMES do not encourage bullying.(So that rebuttal you were about to type is futile) But it makes me sad to find out that you're fighting against video-games, and JUST video games. You don't seem to be doing a single thing about any other topics right now, just video games. I believe YOUR the Bully, Mr. Thompson.

-Alex Schulman, A Gamer

I don't think jackpeace is his account anymore, cause I got an email back saying that comcast don't work for him.

I think this about sums up how crazy JT is:
http://gr.bolt.com/articles/jack/jack.htm

The guy took a friggen buddy icon as a death threat...

Hi Guys · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:56 am

IDIOT'D!

Cmarbagoi · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 1:58 am

Hi Guys wrote:

IDIOT'D!

More like Insane'd. This guy has lost his mind. And people actually believe him.

PEOPLE actually believe JACK THOMPSON.

Sir Hotbod Handsomeface · **Joined:** Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:17 am **Posts:** 60

Cmarbagoi wrote:

Hi Guys wrote:

IDIOT'D!

More like Insane'd. This guy has lost his mind. And people actually believe him.

PEOPLE actually believe JACK THOMPSON.

Well, there are many crazy people who look for support of their ideas wherever they can find it, and Jack Thompson is providing them that. But just because others want his ideas justified doesn't mean that they are.

Cmarbagoi · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:50 am

Sir Hotbod Handsomeface wrote:

Cmarbagoi wrote:

Hi Guys wrote:

IDIOT'D!

More like Insane'd. This guy has lost his mind. And people actually believe him.

PEOPLE actually believe JACK THOMPSON.

Well, there are many crazy people who look for support of their ideas wherever they can find it, and Jack Thompson is providing them that. But just because others want his ideas justified doesn't mean that they are.

I know, that's what I'm saying.

Seriously, Jacko needs to grow up.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:12 am

you guys, jacko isnt our problem anymore, its Hilary Clinton. we gotta get her to not run for president in 08, heck, wed be beter off if hitler were our president.

Shippinator Mandy · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:23 am

Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:

you guys, jacko isnt our problem anymore, its Hilary Clinton. we gotta get her to not run for president in 08, heck, wed be beter off if hitler were our president.

YOU LOSE!

Anyway, do you really think you'd rather have that German guy as our president? Do you really want a guy who killed millions of people? Really, how is having him as a president any better?

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:33 am

urgh! off topic mandy, just trying to make some sort of wrongful joke.... now me and a Secret person on this forum are working on a flash toon.... all i will say is when it is done, my posts in this thread will have to be deleted.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:24 pm

Cmarbagoi wrote:

Quote:

Video Games (A quick question for the Floridian Lawyer)

Alex Schulman
to jackpeace
More options Oct 13 (2 days ago)
Dear Mr. Thompson,

I'm an avid video gamer. I like video games. I like to escape from reality. I'm also a freshman in high school. When you recently went on your crusade against violent/adult-themed video-games, it made a bit sense. Children shouldn't be allowed to play violent video-games. And that's why there's the ESRB, to stop kids from playing questionable material. Sadly it's not the game company's fault for kids doing stupid things. Take the Grand Theft Auto series for instance. It involves drug schemes, cop-killin', and hookers (but I'm sure you know that already). It's rated M for a reason. But is it truly Rockstar's fault if a 10 year old plays their games? No, the parents should be the ones to blame. Most likely the parents aren't doing there jobs if their 6-year old son starts playing GTA. So why blame Rockstar? You shouldn't. And when it comes to those "Video games kill people" rant you go off on a lot, you don't seem to understand that these games don't control children's minds. That whole "6-cops dead" article, really shouldn't put RockStar to shame. Most likely the kid was already messed up in the head. GTA just "stimulated" him. So could his family. So could ANYTHING he sees on TV. But the question I have for you is, why are you attacking video games more than TV and Movies? They supply just enough negative information. Why games? Is it because you know that you never can beat Desperate Housewives and Sin City in court? So when you and Hilary decided to attack San Andreas, you weren't thinking clearly. The whole "hot coffee" mod was a modification of the game, something you can't access without IMMENSE coding. (Sexual Intercourse is natural by the way. It Shouldn't be something to be frowned upon.) There of tons of other violent/sexual games in the market. Why GTA? Why Rockstar in particular? You've been attacking their other games as well, like Bully. Bully is a game to give gamers and nerds (like me) the feel of what its like to be a Bully. You seem to think that it will encourage more bullying in schools, when you don't address the problem yourself. Being bullied as a child, I know that schools can't do a single thing about it. Why aren't YOU stopping this problem? I mean c'mon, if you're gonna complain about bullying in schools, at least do something about it yourself... And no, VIDEO-GAMES do not encourage bullying.(So that rebuttal you were about to type is futile) But it makes me sad to find out that you're fighting against video-games, and JUST video games. You don't seem to be doing a single thing about any other topics right now, just video games. I believe YOUR the Bully, Mr. Thompson.

-Alex Schulman, A Gamer

I don't think jackpeace is his account anymore, cause I got an email back saying that comcast don't work for him.

I think this about sums up how crazy JT is:
http://gr.bolt.com/articles/jack/jack.htm

The guy took a friggen buddy icon as a death threat...

one thing CMR, the thing jacko would do is just say the exact following:

Quote:

Dear Alex Shulman,
Get Off Drugs
-Jack Thompson

yeah... i know, i had a friend e-mail him before he canceld his jackpeace thing. got the same response.

Cmarbagoi · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:35 pm

Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:

Cmarbagoi wrote:

Quote:

Video Games (A quick question for the Floridian Lawyer)

Alex Schulman
to jackpeace
More options Oct 13 (2 days ago)
Dear Mr. Thompson,

I'm an avid video gamer. I like video games. I like to escape from reality. I'm also a freshman in high school. When you recently went on your crusade against violent/adult-themed video-games, it made a bit sense. Children shouldn't be allowed to play violent video-games. And that's why there's the ESRB, to stop kids from playing questionable material. Sadly it's not the game company's fault for kids doing stupid things. Take the Grand Theft Auto series for instance. It involves drug schemes, cop-killin', and hookers (but I'm sure you know that already). It's rated M for a reason. But is it truly Rockstar's fault if a 10 year old plays their games? No, the parents should be the ones to blame. Most likely the parents aren't doing there jobs if their 6-year old son starts playing GTA. So why blame Rockstar? You shouldn't. And when it comes to those "Video games kill people" rant you go off on a lot, you don't seem to understand that these games don't control children's minds. That whole "6-cops dead" article, really shouldn't put RockStar to shame. Most likely the kid was already messed up in the head. GTA just "stimulated" him. So could his family. So could ANYTHING he sees on TV. But the question I have for you is, why are you attacking video games more than TV and Movies? They supply just enough negative information. Why games? Is it because you know that you never can beat Desperate Housewives and Sin City in court? So when you and Hilary decided to attack San Andreas, you weren't thinking clearly. The whole "hot coffee" mod was a modification of the game, something you can't access without IMMENSE coding. (Sexual Intercourse is natural by the way. It Shouldn't be something to be frowned upon.) There of tons of other violent/sexual games in the market. Why GTA? Why Rockstar in particular? You've been attacking their other games as well, like Bully. Bully is a game to give gamers and nerds (like me) the feel of what its like to be a Bully. You seem to think that it will encourage more bullying in schools, when you don't address the problem yourself. Being bullied as a child, I know that schools can't do a single thing about it. Why aren't YOU stopping this problem? I mean c'mon, if you're gonna complain about bullying in schools, at least do something about it yourself... And no, VIDEO-GAMES do not encourage bullying.(So that rebuttal you were about to type is futile) But it makes me sad to find out that you're fighting against video-games, and JUST video games. You don't seem to be doing a single thing about any other topics right now, just video games. I believe YOUR the Bully, Mr. Thompson.

-Alex Schulman, A Gamer

I don't think jackpeace is his account anymore, cause I got an email back saying that comcast don't work for him.

I think this about sums up how crazy JT is:
http://gr.bolt.com/articles/jack/jack.htm

The guy took a friggen buddy icon as a death threat...

one thing CMR, the thing jacko would do is just say the exact following:

Quote:

Dear Alex Shulman,
Get Off Drugs
-Jack Thompson

yeah... i know, i had a friend e-mail him before he canceld his jackpeace thing. got the same response.

It's sChulman, but Jack has made similar responses to Scott Ramsoomair of VGCats
http://www.vgcats.com/jack.php

Hi Guys · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:27 pm

Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:

you guys, jacko isnt our problem anymore, its Hilary Clinton. we gotta get her to not run for president in 08, heck, wed be beter off if hitler were our president.

I always kind of thought Hitler leaned more toward dictator than president...

Shippinator Mandy · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:58 pm

Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:

urgh! off topic mandy, just trying to make some sort of wrongful joke.... now me and a Secret person on this forum are working on a flash toon.... all i will say is when it is done, my posts in this thread will have to be deleted.

How was I going off topic?

To be honest, it was hard to tell that you were joking--and even if you were, it wasn't very funny.

And why, exactly, would your posts need to be deleted?

Prof. Tor Coolguy · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:25 pm

You guys do know that by carrying on this thread you're giving Jack what he wants right?

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:56 pm

well, does jack even know about us?

khan earl · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:38 pm

if he know about the vgcats, why not this site?

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:55 pm

your right... ive allready said too much about the Flashtoon me and a Mystery assistant is making. oi... that was still too much! gak! that was way too much!

Jitka · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:03 am

I don't think he knows about us in particular, but he does know that he is widely hated by the Internet community, and must suspect that people are blasting the crap out of him om message boards like this. And I'm sure he loves the attention.

Which is why we need to let this thread die, starting now. Giving the guy attention is exactly what he's looking for, and the sooner we stop giving him what he wants, the sooner he'll go away.

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:09 am

im starting to doubt he wants/likes media attention, hes not like BTK, although he has Morally killed parents senses of judgement. wait a minute....... that wasnt funny..... i gotta fire my comedic writers.

Sir Hotbod Handsomeface · **Joined:** Thu Oct 13, 2005 1:17 am **Posts:** 60

Guess what? $10,000 was donated to charity in the name of Jack Thompson!

It just happens that the Penny Arcade guys were the ones to do it.

HA!

Mr. Sparkle · **Posted:** Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:24 pm

The e-Mail I'm about to send wrote:

Mr. Thompson

You have recieved many criticisms from gamers who have played many violent games. But, this email is not from one such gamer. I am a young person(age undisclosed) that plays a small amount of games. I am restricted from playing M-rated games.

Rockstar games is a company built on sleaze, as shown by "Hot Coffee". But that does not mean that the games that they produce should be banned(Grand Theft Auto, Manhunt, Bully).

The Entertainment Software Rating Board along with irresponsible parents who do not give notice to obvious ratings on the packaging of games, even if video games have an effect on the minds of children, you should not blame the companies that make them, after all they are not giving the children these games, their parents get the games for them. And I doubt very highly that such games are directed to children.

People don't kill and shoot innocent people because of video games, it's usually the people who they shoot are to blame, or in a wider look, society. The people who commit such acts are usually outcasted due to video game playing, the people affected know that they are to blame so they blame the reason they were outcasted, as logical as it may be, it's still very wrong to blame them for the pain that they, themselves, have caused.

You, are an ambulance-chasing lawyer with no mind for the people you represent. Only the money you wrongfully earned. Stop harassing game companies. After all, that would make you the problem.

I'm not really sure on what to do for the complimentary close though.

Jitka · **Posted:** Tue Oct 18, 2005 8:27 pm

If you're sending that, end it "Respectfully, Bob Mynamehere." But I wouldn't bother, he took his email account down, the slimy little...

You know, I tolerated him before this, but saying you were going to give money to charity and then backing out of the deal when someone meets your conditions is about as low as you can get. The man needs to be beaten severely by hockey players.

Acekirby · **Posted:** Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:08 pm

Wow, that guy's completely insane. That's a real bad paradox argument he set up.

Violent games aren't cool, but who says you have to fight violence with violence?

Choc-o-Lardiac Arrest · **Posted:** Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:08 pm

Sir Hotbod Handsomeface wrote:

Guess what? $10,000 was donated to charity in the name of Jack Thompson!

It just happens that the Penny Arcade guys were the ones to do it.

HA!

wait... there making the game?????

InterruptorJones · **Posted:** Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:14 pm

Choc-o-lardiac Arrest wrote:

Sir Hotbod Handsomeface wrote:

Guess what? $10,000 was donated to charity in the name of Jack Thompson!

It just happens that the Penny Arcade guys were the ones to do it.

wait... there making the game?????

No, they donated $10,000. Try to keep up.

Honestly, what I love most is the fact that two kids who write a webcomic have that kind of cash sitting around. That's not a criticism; I honestly admire them. Their PAX convention is a phenomenon and Child's Play (a charity which donated over a half-million dollars in cash and video games to children's hospitals last year) is nothing short of incredible. If Jack Thompson wants to paint someone a villain, Gabe and Tycho are the wrong kids to target.

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