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| Author: | Pop_tire [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:28 am ] |
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I have a question. How do you know when an action is morally right? |
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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:41 am ] |
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Well it really depends on the persons beliefs. usually you'll know when something is right because it wont feel wrong. Did you have something in particular you were wondering about? |
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| Author: | StrongRad [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:56 am ] |
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The best way to know is to look think about the action, and ask yourselves these questions (or similar ones) 1) Would this be something I am proud of? 2) Is this something I would want aired on the news or put in the local paper? 3) Is this something I would tell my kids to do? 4) Would I have a problem telling my friends/family about this? 5) Is this something that will make me lose sleep, or, If this is irreversable, can I live with the decision for the rest of my life? Usually, if it passes these tests, it's probably the right thing. |
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| Author: | DESTROY US ALL! [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:03 am ] |
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I have my own tests in my mind. 1) Is it worth the trouble? 2) Will this have any longlasting damagin effects on someone? 3) Will I be damaging the enviroment? reall ythats all that is morality on my level. But as KISSdude said. It all really depends on the person. |
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| Author: | DeadGaySon [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:34 pm ] |
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For me, I just have to ask is the said action causes and harm to anyone at all, and, if so, if the positives outweigh the negatives. |
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| Author: | Beyond the Grave [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 2:37 pm ] |
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I consider something moral if I feel I am doing the right thing. |
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| Author: | Didymus [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:11 pm ] |
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I consider an action moral if it is something that God would want me to do. The basic principle starts with what Jesus called the greatest Commandment: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength." The second is like it: "Love your neighbor as you love yourself." In these commands, there are three basic principles: 1. Love of God. Does my action demonstrate a love for God? While this might be most clearly demonstrated in religious or spiritual activities, it does extend into other actions. Why? Because love of God (and by this, I mean both God's love for us and our love for him) motivates us to love ourselves and others as well. 2. Love of Self. Having a proper respect for yourself as a person and as a child of God is important for both spiritual, mental, and emotional health. If we are not able to love ourselves, we will not be able to show adequate love for others. In other words, God wants us to take care of ourselves, have a little fun, enjoy life. 3. Love of Others. Finally, as human beings and as fellow children of God, we are to respect and genuine concern for each other's well being. I do not trust people who say, "If it feels good to me, it must be right." I've done some things in my life that felt really good at the time, only to discover how powerfully destructive they were in my own life and to others. The fact that all human beings are fallen, imperfect creatures proves that we need something higher than ourselves to serve as our moral guide. Our gut instincts can be very helpful at times, but we also need those instincts tempored by reason, experience, and council (i.e., help from others). |
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| Author: | Upsilon [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:54 pm ] |
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If you're hurting people (physically or emotionally) it's most probably wrong. If it's an action that treats someone as an object, without any rights or feelings, it's most probably wrong. |
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| Author: | Cobalt [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:06 pm ] |
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if you can say "under these circumstances, EVERYONE should do this thing," then it's a moral action. when you judge yourself by a different standard than the one by which you judge others -- that is, when you think you're allowed to do things that you wouldn't permit others to do -- you're behaving immorally. |
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| Author: | seamusz [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:01 pm ] |
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"Take this rule: whatever weakens your reason, impairs the tenderness of your conscience, obscures your sense of God, or takes off your relish of spiritual things; in short, whatever increases the strength and authority of your body over your mind, that thing is sin to you, however innocent it may be in itself." -- Susanna Wesley (Letter, June 8, 1725) I ran across this the other night, thought that it was a pretty good definition. |
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| Author: | Mr.KISS [ Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:04 pm ] |
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Cobalt wrote: if you can say "under these circumstances, EVERYONE should do this thing," then it's a moral action. when you judge yourself by a different standard than the one by which you judge others -- that is, when you think you're allowed to do things that you wouldn't permit others to do -- you're behaving immorally.
If you used that first thing then you're creating some loop holes. Like, what if I said "If someone steals fom me, it's ok to kill them"? That would be immoral. See where I'm going with this? It creates justification for revenge which is not good morale....ness. |
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| Author: | Dark Grapefruit [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:27 am ] |
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Upsilon wrote: If you're hurting people (physically or emotionally) it's most probably wrong. If it's an action that treats someone as an object, without any rights or feelings, it's most probably wrong.
Ah, another utilitarian in the house. I myself am a more general utilitarian. What is good is what causes pleasure in the greatest number of people, while inflicting the minimum amount of suffering. It is tricky, because virtually all actions have both positive and negative consequences, but as a general rule respect for each individual's rights and desires is the highest good. |
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| Author: | Prof. Tor Coolguy [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:35 am ] |
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StrongRad wrote: The best way to know is to look think about the action, and ask yourselves these questions (or similar ones)
1) Would this be something I am proud of? 2) Is this something I would want aired on the news or put in the local paper? 3) Is this something I would tell my kids to do? 4) Would I have a problem telling my friends/family about this? 5) Is this something that will make me lose sleep, or, If this is irreversable, can I live with the decision for the rest of my life? Usually, if it passes these tests, it's probably the right thing. 6) Would my mom want me doing this? |
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| Author: | Upsilon [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 10:15 am ] |
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Dark Grapefruit wrote: Upsilon wrote: If you're hurting people (physically or emotionally) it's most probably wrong. If it's an action that treats someone as an object, without any rights or feelings, it's most probably wrong. Ah, another utilitarian in the house. I myself am a more general utilitarian. I wouldn't call myself a utilitarian. Seems to me that if you take enough pleasure from killing, then the utilitarian philosophy justifies murder. |
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| Author: | BigBrudder [ Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:34 pm ] |
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Mr.KISS 66 wrote: If you used that first thing then you're creating some loop holes. Like, what if I said "If someone steals fom me, it's ok to kill them"? That would be immoral. See where I'm going with this? It creates justification for revenge which is not good morale....ness.
Which is why most systems of morality teach concepts like "forgiveness". And promote systems of justice that match the punishment to the crime. |
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